For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

In this engaging conversation, actress, activist, and all-around beautiful human, Yvette Nicole Brown, gives us a lesson on the fundamental importance of joy, the blessings of caregiving, and the significance of community support. Through an exploration of Yvettes’ career, first in the music business, and now in the entertainment industry, she and Jen and Amy discuss the many challenges that face black women today while also talking about one of black women’s greatest superpowers – the sisterhood that exists among them. They lean into how white women can learn to harness that power in their relationships, too, and the things that can be done to support their sisters of color right now. Yvette also reflects on her personal life as a devoted caregiver, and dishes for a moment about the beauty of finding love in your late 50s.***Thought-provoking Quotes:“I don’t know as a kid that I ever thought that I would be a star. I always felt that I would be impactful in people's lives in some way because of the way that I love people.” – Yvette Nicole Brown“I am still pinching myself. I’m Forrest Gump in the flesh – in real life – because I just say yes to things that feel right and God just takes me to the next opportunity to do the same.” – Yvette Nicole Brown“That’s why black women are always so close with each other because whenever you see a ‘sista’, you know her story, without knowing her story. That’s why we call each other ‘sista’, because we know what she’s been through. Same thing with black men. ‘Brotha’. ‘Sista’. We know what the other person has been through and we stand with each other and support each other. But here’s the thing, we stand with and support everybody else too. And that’s why we say ‘vote like black women, think like black women’. That’s not hubris. That’s not arrogance. That’s heart. That’s soul.” – Yvette Nicole Brown“When it comes to anything that comes up in the news, culture, current events, whatever’s going on, if I feel even a modicum of uncertainty about how to feel about it, I just look to the black women. It’s the correct reading of the room. The response is always for the greater good. It’s what’s good for culture, for people, our neighbors, progress, equality.” – Jen Hatmaker“Instead of me showing you my pain, I’m going to use my joy as my strength and I’m going to dance and laugh through this thing.” – Yvette Nicole BrownResources Mentioned in This Episode:I Take My Coffee Black: Reflections on Tupac, Musical Theater, Faith, and Being Black in America by Tyler Merritt - https://amzn.to/3U6nMfNYvette’s acting and producing credits - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1304328/Kamala Harris for President - https://kamalaharris.com/How Black Women Organizers Broke Zoom to Raise $1.5 Million - Fortune.com K-Pops by Anderson .Paak at Toronto International Film Festival - https://tiff.net/events/k-popsFrasier - https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/frasier-2023/Among Us - https://www.innersloth.com/voice-cast-for-the-among-us-animated-series-round-1/Donors Choose - https://www.donorschoose.org/The Creative Coalition Commission on Caregiving - https://thecreativecoalition.org/caregiving/Emily’s ListGuest’s Links:Yvette’s website - http://www.actressyvettenicolebrown.com/Yvette’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/yvettenicolebrownYvette’s Twitter - https://x.com/ynbYvette’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/YvetteNBrown/Yvette’s Squeezed Docupodcast - https://lemonadamedia.com/show/squeezed/Connect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Jen and Amy sit down with the charismatic and engaging Stanley Tucci, to discuss his new book, 'What I Ate in One Year', that explores the deep connections we can find amongst the food we eat, the memories we make, and the emotions we feel and how our cultural practices around food can provide fuel for us, not just in times of celebration, but can also provide us comfort in times of grief. Stanley reflects on how food plays a role in both joyous and difficult moments, emphasizing the importance of sharing meals with loved ones, hoping that readers will find comfort and connection through his work, especially in a time when we are all experiencing more loneliness and disconnection.***Thought-provoking Quotes:"You're such a Renaissance man." – Jen Hatmaker"I like it so much more when we all eat together." – Stanley Tucci"Food is just a part of life, which means it's a part of death too." – Stanley Tucci“When somebody brings me bread, that’s my person. Let’s get married.” – Jen Hatmaker“Even if you’re in a really shitty place, even if the food is terrible, but you’re eating with people that you love, it’ll be a memorable meal.” – Stanley Tucci“I don’t want to eat a well done burger. I’d rather eat an extra side of fries.” – Jen Hatmaker“Eating outdoors makes things taste better. Why is that? I don’t know but the place is crucial…in a weird way. It can change the taste of things.” – Stanley Tucci“We think that in the moment we’re going to remember something forever but we don't. It just slips away. Even just writing your story down for you has meaning.” – Jen HatmakerResources Mentioned in This Episode:Stanley Tucci’s new book 'What I Ate in One Year' - https://amzn.to/484rxb2Big Night (1996) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115678/CNN Show: Searching for Italy - https://www.cnn.com/shows/stanley-tucci-searching-for-italyStanley Tucci makes a Negroni for his wife, Felicity - https://bit.ly/4h2L9QWThe Devil Wears Prada (2006) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458352/Stanley Tucci’s film bio - https://imdb.to/3YgfeW2Stanley Tucci’s theater bio - https://playbill.com/person/stanley-tucci-vault-0000019856Taste: My Life Through Food by Stanley Tucci - https://amzn.to/4f08P6YGuest’s Links:Stanley’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/StanleyTucciStanley’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/stanleytucci/Stanley’s TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@stanley.tucciConnect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Named a best podcast of 2023 by Vulture, Time, The Economist, & Vogue. No question too big, no question too small. On Search Engine, host PJ Vogt answers the kinds of questions you might ask the internet when you can't sleep. If you find the world bewildering, but also sometimes enjoy being bewildered by it, we're here for you. Edited by Sruthi Pinnamaneni. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this month’s Jen Hatmaker Book Club episode, we speak with the author of A Woman of Intelligence, Karin Tanabe. In this fascinating interview, we learn that Karin originally set out to write a book about WWII women code breakers, but ended up turning it into an ode to the struggles of women finding themselves during early motherhood and the imminent right they have to a future chosen for themselves. The story follows a woman in the 50’s who sets out on a spy adventure, departing wildly from her mundane life, and making difficult choices that come with choosing yourself over society’s whims.Jen and Karin personally and candidly reflect on the pressures of motherhood, the erasure of self that can come with parenting full time, and the history that brought us to where we are today.Some topic points include:  The fascinating pivot from Tanabe's original book pitch to the creation of "A Woman of Intelligence" Discussion of rarely-taught aspects of U.S. history, including government-funded childcare during WWII Tanabe’s approach to crafting complex characters, including the memorable mother-in-law The careful construction of the novel's open-ended finale Join Jen and Karin for an engaging conversation that will leave you eager to dive into "A Woman of Intelligence" and reflect on how far we've come – and how far we still have to go.* * *Resources & Books Mentioned in This Episode:A Woman of Intelligence by Karin Tanabe - https://bit.ly/47GdbxIThe Sunset Crowd by Karin Tanabe - https://www.karintanabe.com/copy-of-the-listA Hundred Suns - https://www.karintanabe.com/a-hundred-sunsKarin’s Booklist - https://www.karintanabe.com/books-w3touElizabeth Bentley - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_BentleyThe Lanham Act of 1940 (Government-Subsidized Health Care) - https://bit.ly/3XS2UenThe Red Scare - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_ScareThe Cliffs by J. Courtney Sullivan - https://bit.ly/4evbYLGPrivate Equity: A Memoir by Carrie Sun - https://bit.ly/3Bbgy3wEyeliner by Zahra Hankir - https://bit.ly/4gDgdqCGuest’s Links:Karin’s Website: https://www.karintanabe.com/Karin’s Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/karintanabeKarin’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karintanabeKarin’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/authorkarintanabeConnect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is a production of Four Eyes Media, presented by Audacy. Four Eyes Media: https://www.iiiimedia.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Jen and Amy dive deep into the mind of bestselling author and one of the most influential thinkers of the 2000’s, Malcolm Gladwell. Exploring the intriguing concepts behind his latest book, The Revenge of the Tipping Point, the conversation ebbs and flows through Malcolm's ability to turn dense data into compelling narratives, weaving stories that captivate readers in unexpected ways. Jen and Amy key into Malcolm's knack for viewing problems from unique angles, a skill that sets him apart in academic and popular discourse. Throughout the chat, Malcolm reveals how his perspectives have evolved over the last 25 years and how the nuances of today's world demand a fresh interpretation of the ideas that he first introduced. Their discussion underscores the blend of rigorous analysis and storytelling magic that defines Malcolm's work and leaves a lasting impact on listeners eager to engage with the pressing questions of our time.Malcolm gives us insight into all manner of cultural phenomena, including:  A definition of “overstories” and how they can refine and deepen our understanding of the spread of customs, mores, and practices The advent of “superspreaders:” those very few people who have a large amount of influence, a situation which has shifted with the onset of social media Snippets of fascinating social observations, illustrated in stories from his book including a look at the opioid epidemic, the growing mental health issues of students, and the power of television shows like “Will & Grace,” toward creating massive cultural shifts  * * *Thought-Provoking Quotes:“The overstory that is over our heads right now that we're not thinking about is one that says the most important way to understand ourselves and our differences from others is to look through the lens of politics. I think political ideology has somehow kind of become central in a way that it wasn't 25 years ago. That's a kind of weird thing going on right now that we're sort of not paying attention to. I'm hopeful that will shift. I would much rather people find themselves using other categories. Because there are other categories that are far more meaningful.” - Malcolm Gladwell"If you look at platforms like Twitter or TikTok, you'll see that a very small number of people have a massive amount of reach. As we examine how we're influenced, it's clear that the sources and individuals projecting influence in the world are getting smaller and smaller — which is weird, because we initially thought the opposite was happening." - Malcolm GladwellResources Mentioned in This Episode:What’s Going On by Marvin Gaye - https://bit.ly/3TLRne5Sunday Bloody Sunday by U2 - https://bit.ly/4gQTdECLosing My Religion by R.E.M - https://open.spotify.com/track/31AOj9sFz2gM0O3hMARRBxMalcolm’s Book List - https://www.gladwellbooks.com/landing-page/malcolm-gladwell-books/Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell - https://bit.ly/3XYc7BNAnna Muller - https://umdearborn.edu/people-um-dearborn/anna-mullerSeth Robertson - https://philosophy.fas.harvard.edu/people/seth-robertsonWill and Grace - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_%26_GraceGuest’s Links:Malcolm’s Website - https://www.gladwellbooks.com/Malcolm’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/gladwellMalcolm’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/malcolmgladwellbooks/Malcolm’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/malcolmgladwell/Connect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, step into the studio (and kitchen!) with Jen and Amy as they have an intimate and insightful conversation with the iconic Ina Garten, a true pioneer in the culinary world who has shaped the way we cook at home. As they delve into Ina's groundbreaking career, from the beloved Barefoot Contessa specialty food shop to the 28 seasons of her cherished TV show, you'll discover the heart and humor behind Ina's success. Amidst laughter and heartwarming tales, the conversation takes a deeper turn as Ina opens up about her new memoir, “Be Ready When the Luck Happens,” providing candid insights into her life, including her early days with husband Jeffrey and the triumphs and challenges that have defined her journey. Topics include:  Being open to unexpected opportunities can lead to fulfilling paths. The importance of maintaining a sense of humor and lightheartedness on the journey to success and connection. Behind the scenes of Ina’s relationship with her husband of 56 years, Jeffrey, where she underscores the value of strong support systems and partnerships in achieving balance and joy. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to Ina's world, this episode offers a personal glimpse into the life of a culinary legend who continues to inspire us all.PLUS don’t miss Jen and Amy’s discussion about foods they ate as kids that they wouldn’t dare touch now, and the cooking shows that first caught their attention as young wives and moms.* * *Thought-Provoking Quotes:“I think that we all need one person and we don't need a lot of people, just need one person who really believes in us. And fortunately for me, it was Jeffrey…He always made me feel like I was smart and I could accomplish anything I wanted to do with no reservations, no judgment. And it doesn't have to be a spouse. It can be a sister. It can be a teacher. It can be a parent. We all need to find that one person who really believes in us. At least that's my experience.” - Ina Garten“I think one of the things that we're always taught when we're young is; what are you going to be when you grow up? And you're not going to be one thing anymore. You're going to do something and it's going to lead to something else, and then it's going to lead to something else. If you decide when you're young what you're going to be and that's it, you're never going to learn anything. I think it's the twists and turns that are really interesting.” - Ina GartenResources Mentioned in This Episode:Feed These People by Jen Hatmaker - https://shop.jenhatmaker.com/products/ftp-bookBe My Guest with Ina Garten - https://bit.ly/3TvsfIxBe Ready When Luck Happens: A Memoir by Ina Garten - https://bit.ly/3ZndFqhStrapless: John Singer Sargent and the Fall of Madame X by Deborah Davis - https://bit.ly/3XPOo76Party of the Century: The Fabulous Story of Truman Capote and His Black and White Ball by Deborah Davis - https://bit.ly/4gvQ6l6The Oprah Winfrey Show: Reflections on an American Legacy - https://bit.ly/47r1QS1Tina Turner: My Love Story - https://bit.ly/3Xu76j1Ina Garten on 60 Minutes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REyYFeqEKZgAn Unmarried Woman - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Unmarried_WomanIna’s Interview with John Grisham - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ9jYxkbm6sGuest’s Links:Barefoot Contessa (Ina’s Website) - https://barefootcontessa.com/Ina’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/InaGartenIna’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOlnd-2UlwJuWcnfEKt28ygIna’s Pinterest - https://br.pinterest.com/inaofficial/Ina’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/inagarten/Connect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is a production of Four Eyes Media, presented by Audacy. Four Eyes Media: https://www.iiiimedia.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Leanne Morgan was going to quit her career as a stand up comic and start a hardware store (with a cheese wheel, no less!) before she had her major break in comedy. Making the decision to invest in herself one last time opened the doors to an incredible season and newfound success in the comedy world.Jen, Amy, and Leanne get candid when talking about what it means to be the best version of themselves in their second act of life, and when success comes later, why it can be better than having all your dreams come true at once. Topics discussed include: Behind the scenes of Leanne’s viral success at 51 Why being yourself is always the best answer to any problem How handling criticism at their ages is so much easier to deal with The cornbread drama — do you add sugar or not? Also; don’t miss Jen and Amy’s discussions before the interview on Taylor Swift drama and FOMO!* * *Thought-Provoking Quotes:"Use humor to get through hard times. I think it's the best thing that can ever happen to anybody is to be able to laugh through the bad times and to forgive themselves." - Leanne Morgan"I want [women] to know it is never too late...you're the best you've ever been. You're the smartest you've ever been. It is the best time in your life. It is the best time to start a business. It is the best time to go back to school. I just want women to know that." - Leanne MorganResources Mentioned in This Episode:What in the World? by Leanne Morgan - https://www.leannemorgan.com/bookQuiet by Susan Cain - https://susancain.net/book/quiet/For the Love Podcast Episode ft. Jim Gaffigan - https://bit.ly/3XimuijLeanne’s Interview with Hallerin Hilton Hill - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14xdJyhnLucYou’re Cordially Invited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14xdJyhnLucLeanne Morgan at the Grand Ole Opry - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFYMFOok5s4Guest’s Links:Leanne’s Website - https://www.leannemorgan.com/Leanne’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/leannecomedyLeanne’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/leannemorgancomedyLeanne’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/leannemorgancomedyConnect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is a production of Four Eyes Media, presented by Audacy. Four Eyes Media: https://www.iiiimedia.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

At the height of her worldly and academic success garnering three Harvard degrees, Martha Beck received life altering news, and discovered that maybe she didn’t know everything. This set off a lifetime of pursuing ways to soothe her nervous system from anxiety and find freedom in a new purpose.In a world where anxiety seems to be spiraling out of control, Martha offers a revolutionary approach to understanding and befriending anxiety. Drawing from cutting-edge neuroscience and her years of experience coaching people through what she calls the “Change Cycle,” Martha shares: The four phases of the “Change Cycle” Why anxiety is on the rise and how it's affecting us all The unexpected connection between anxiety and creativity How to access your own creative genius You’re also not going to want to miss Jen and Amy’s discussions before the interview on embracing the mantra “it’s never too late” and Jen’s incurable attachment to an ancient email address.* * *Thought-Provoking Quotes:"Hold it [stability] very lightly. Let it go. Because everything is always moving and changing." - Dr. Martha Beck"If you try to speed yourself through the process of letting go, of grieving your losses, of at least giving a really deep, profound, heartfelt farewell to the life you used to have — if you don't go through that process, nothing good is going to come of it. You're going to end up in lifelong therapy." Dr. Martha Beck“There is a sensation deeper than the mind, more profound than anything we could think, and in some ways, far more powerful than emotion. It is a kind of stillness, a connection. I believe that this is what consciousness is. It behaves this way when it is neither us nor a substance. It is a vibrantly alive stillness that pervades the universe, however many there are. And we are part of it; we are indistinguishable from it.” - Dr. Martha Beck"The first step to getting out of anxiety is to recognize that an anxious brain is not a broken machine--it's a frightened animal." - Dr. Martha Beck“The moment you move into a place of compassion, you use your brain very differently than when you’re in an anxiety spiral. This shift frees you to pull your attention away from the anxiety and begin being loving with yourself.” - Dr. Martha Beck"You were born a creative genius. Your mind is so capable of solving the problems that make you anxious, but only if you free that genius. And anxiety keeps it caged." - Dr. Martha BeckResources Mentioned in This Episode:Dr. Becks Monthly O Magazine Column - https://www.oprah.com/spirit/martha-beck/allBewildered Podcast with Dr. Martha Beck & Rowan Mangan - https://bit.ly/3zkyic2The Gathering Room Podcast with Dr. Martha Beck - https://bit.ly/3XquFsVThe Way of Integrity Finding the Path to Your True Self - https://bit.ly/3ziwm3FNisargadatta Maharaj - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisargadatta_MaharajNASA’s Creative Genius Study - https://bit.ly/4dSoFAlWildr App - https://apps.apple.com/my/app/wildr/id1604130204Guest’s Links:Dr. Beck's Website: https://marthabeck.comDr. Beck's Wayfinder Life Coach Training: https://marthabeck.com/life-coach-training/Dr. Beck's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themarthabeck/Dr. Beck's upcoming book: https://marthabeck.com/beyond-anxiety/Courses & Retreats with Dr. Beck: https://marthabeck.com/courses-training/Connect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker?sub_confirmation=1The For the Love Podcast is a production of Four Eyes Media, presented by Audacy. Four Eyes Media: https://www.iiiimedia.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jen and New York Times best-selling author, Phaedra Patrick, discuss “The Little Italian Hotel” and how finding a way through heartache can look wildly different from one person to the next. Phaedra was a self-taught writer who almost gave up on her dream before she had a breakthrough with her runaway hit, “The Curious Charms of Arthur Pepper.” In her darkest moments she always reminds herself, “When I don’t feel confident, I just tell myself that I can always feel determined instead.” With that boldness in mind, she writes novels to make people feel good about themselves and want to connect with others. Particularly compelling moments between Jen and Phaedra include: Phaedra’s incredible story of teaching herself to write and dealing with rejection in the beginning of her career The author's insights on the challenges women face on putting themselves first Phaedra’s reasoning on the open ending of the book Why connecting with others in warm and gentle spaces can lead to healing * * *Thought-Provoking Quotes:“When I don't feel confident, I just tell myself that I can always feel determined instead.” - Phaedra PatrickResources and Books Mentioned in This Episode:The Little Italian Hotel by Phaedra Patrick - https://bit.ly/4fJ92fJThe Year of What If by Phaedra Patrick - https://bit.ly/4drmseXRise and Shine, Benedict Stone by Phaedra Patrick - https://bit.ly/3X3ugOrThe Curious Charms Of Arthur Pepper by Phaedra Patrick - https://bit.ly/3WIQWSwGarden Spells by Sarah Addison Allen - https://bit.ly/3YKUsyAThe Authenticity Project by Clare Pooley - https://bit.ly/4fC6XT7The Love of My After Life by Kirsty Greenwood - https://bit.ly/46SffSQPhaedra’s Writing Tips - https://www.phaedra-patrick.com/writing-tipsGuest’s Links:Phaedra’s Website - https://www.phaedra-patrick.com/Phaedra’s Instagram - http://instagram.com/phaedrapatrickPhaedra’s Twitter - http://twitter.com/phaedrapatrickPhaedra’s Facebook - http://facebook.com/phaedrapatrickConnect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is a production of Four Eyes Media, presented by Audacy. Four Eyes Media: https://www.iiiimedia.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Have you ever met someone who’s excited about menopause? It might seem like a rare breed, but isn’t it time we reconsider our relationship with aging? While society often tells us that 50 should look like 30, the reality is that growing older is a badge of honor—even if it comes with its own set of quirks. Menopause, instead of being a dreaded foe, is more like an old friend that invites us to a new chapter filled with wisdom, laughter, and some hilariously unpredictable moments. Rather than shying away from this natural transition, Cheryl Bridges Johns encourages us to lean into it, celebrating the changes and uncovering the vibrant selves we’ve always been. Through her insightful book, “Seven Transforming Gifts of Menopause,” she illuminates the idea that this phase is an opportunity for rediscovery—like uncovering a hidden treasure chest on a stormy day. As we navigate these waters together, it's easier to see that aging is not the end; it’s merely the beginning of a bravely authentic and empowered life. PLUS an all new episode intro from Amy and Jen who get into a Rant & Rave segment about the joys of permimenopause and menopause that you won’t want to miss.* * *Thought-Provoking Quotes:“Women are allowed to age but we are not allowed to mature.” - Cheryl Bridges Johns“We're the daughters of the Silent Generation but our daughters don't have to be.” - Cheryl Bridges Johns“Menopause is a gift to revisit. What did you let go, what did you repress? The uncovering of menopause is like a storm that comes in and you realize there’s a ship where you couldn’t see it before. It was hidden and the storm became a clearing, an uncovering.” - Cheryl Bridges JohnsResources Mentioned in This Episode:The Silent Passage - Gail Sheehy - https://bit.ly/4dTE1Ve How to Survive a Shipwreck: Help Is on the Way and Love is Already Here - Jonathan Martin - https://bit.ly/4gaB5oL The Wisdom of Menopause: Creating Physical and Emotional Health During Change - Christiane Northrup - https://bit.ly/3TifroB Jen’s Blog - What’s Saving My Life Right Now: Perimenopause Edition - https://shop.jenhatmaker.com/pages/perimenopause-survival-guideGuest’s Links:Cheryl's Website - https://cherylbjohns.com Cheryl's Twitter - https://twitter.com/cb_johns Connect with Jen!Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmakerThe For the Love Podcast is a production of Four Eyes Media, presented by Audacy. Four Eyes Media: https://www.iiiimedia.com/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices