
The Nature & Nurture Podcast
Discussing the interaction between Nature (our biology, genes, evolutionary past, and the laws of our universe) and Nurture (our social environments, culture, history, and upbringings), and how these forces impact our lives. New episodes every week with scientists, authors, and bright minds from a wide array of backgrounds.
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Latest episodes

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Apr 24, 2023 • 1h 18min
Nature & Nurture #99: Dr. Karl Friston - Active Inference & Free Energy
Dr. Karl Friston, a leading neuroscientist, discusses active inference and the brain's free energy principle. They explore the brain's predictive nature, minimizing prediction error to maximize information gain. The discussion delves into motivation, decision-making, and consciousness through the lens of active inference theory, comparing it with integrated information theory. The podcast also touches on the neurobiology of active inference and its parallels to cybernetic intelligence.

Apr 21, 2023 • 1h 19min
Nature & Nurture #98: Dr. Lixing Sun - The Evolution of Lying
Dr. Lixing Sun is a Distinguished Professor of Biology at Central Washington University, and author of The Liars of Nature and the Nature of Liars: Cheating and Deception in the Living World.
In this episode we talk about the evolution of lying and deception as distinct strategies. Lying organisms actively alter truth by displaying false signals, whereas deception occurs by exploiting cognitive biases to trick others. We talk about lying and deception in a wide range of species, from insects, to fish, to reptiles, to primates, and finally, humans. We discuss the role of deception in sexual selection, evolutionary arms races between innovative methods to cheat and counter-cheating strategies, such as costly signaling and the evolution of human social intelligence, and how large-scale institutions and social media are both particularly threatening and promising to prosociality in humans.

Apr 10, 2023 • 57min
Nature & Nurture #97: Dr. Mark Moffett - Society from Ants to Humans
Dr. Mark Moffett is an ecologist and author of several books including Adventures Among Ants and The Human Swarm.
In this episode we talk about social behavior in species ranging from ants, to lizards, to chimpanzees, to humans, and their similarities and differences. We talk about intelligence as typically individually-defined, as well as distributed “hive mind” intelligence in simple species like ants, where each ant can function like a neuron in a whole-brain network. We also discuss the evolution of human sociality and compare our propensity for peace and aggression to chimpanzees and bonobos, and our unique social intelligence. Lastly, we talk about cultural evolution and cross-cultural diversity in human societies, and how we both learn and can transcend group biases.

Apr 4, 2023 • 1h 3min
Nature & Nurture #96: Dr. Ovul Sezer - Comedy & Impression Management
Dr. Ovul Sezer is a behavioral scientist, Assistant Professor of Management and Organizations at Cornell University, and stand-up comedian.
In this episode we talk about the psychology of comedy and Ovul’s research on impression (mis)management. We discuss effective and ineffective forms of communication, balancing confidence and humility, and the importance of first impressions in social and professional relationships. We also talk about the psychology of virtue signaling, humble bragging, and navigating impression management in the modern social media age.

Mar 27, 2023 • 1h 4min
Nature & Nurture #95: Dr. Edouard Machery - Free Will, Value, & Decision Making
Dr. Edouard Machery is a Distinguished Professor at the University of Pittsburgh and Director of the Center for Philosophy of Science. He's published over 150 articles and book chapters on a diverse range of topics including the philosophy of cognitive science, moral psychology, the utility of evolutionary theory and neuroscience for understanding cognition, folk psychology, and experimental philosophy.
In this wide-ranging episode we talk about Edouard’s research on cross-cultural differences in conceptions of free will and determinism, free will and moral responsibility, and how we define a rational agent. We also talk about neuropsychological research on value and decision making, the free energy principle as a theory of cognition, and how statistical reasoning requires us to create probabilistic cutoffs for action, both in science and in decision making. Lastly, we talk about the development of cognition and emotion both within human lifespans and across our evolutionary phylogenetic tree.

Mar 21, 2023 • 52min
Nature & Nurture #94: Dr. Scott Grafton - The Neuroscience of Goal-Directed Movement
Dr. Scott Grafton is a Distinguished Professor of Psychological & Brain Sciences at the University of California, Santa Barbara. He directs the Action Lab, which focuses on the neuroscience of goal-directed movement.
In this episode we discuss Dr. Grafton’s background in neurology research, and the historical progression of integrating the neuroscience of movement, perception, and goal-setting. We talk about how modern neuroimaging techniques replicated and expanded upon findings from early neuropsychological studies of brain damage, and how Dr. Grafton uses dense-sampling techniques to scan individual’s brains repeatedly over short intervals, to study how learning changes the structural and functional organization of brain regions involved in perception and motor control. Lastly, we talk about Dr. Grafton’s ongoing research of how the brain interacts with the rest of the body during physical activity to maintain allostasis, and the implications this has for our understanding of the links between perception, action, and brain health.

Mar 11, 2023 • 1h 9min
Nature & Nurture #93: Dr. Deon Benton - Is Learning Innate?
Dr. Deon Benton is an Assistant Professor of Psychology and Human Development at Vanderbilt University, where he runs the Computational Cognitive Development Lab.
In this episode we talk about the interacting forces of nature and nurture that give rise to human children’s tremendous ability for learning, language development, causal reasoning, and social cognition. Deon describes his past and future research on cognitive development in infants and young children, as well as experimental paradigms for how to measure infant attention, such as through eye-tracking. We talk about how infant statistical learning can be modeled computationally, and the difficulties of decoupling innate knowledge about the physical and social world from learning in the postnatal or even prenatal environments. Lastly, Deon advocates for the importance of designing effective early-intervention studies to improve life outcomes for young children exposed to adversity.
Learn more about Deon’s work at: https://theccdlab.com/

Mar 4, 2023 • 1h 2min
Nature & Nurture #92: Dr. Alan Fiske - Kama Muta: Being Moved by Love
Dr. Alan Fiske is a Distinguished Professor of Anthropology at UCLA, where he co-directs the Kama Muta Lab, and the author of several books including Structures of Social Life, Virtuous Violence, and Kama Muta: Discovering the Connecting Emotion.
In this episode we talk about Alan’s career as an anthropologist, the research which led to his books, and the social mechanisms which give rise to both peace and violence in human societies. Finally, we talk about Alan’s research on kama muta.
Kama muta is Sanskrit for “being moved by love”. Alan defines kama muta as “Kama muta is the sudden feeling of oneness, love, belonging, or union with an individual person, a family, a team, a nation, nature, the cosmos, God, or a kitten.” Learn more about kama muta, and experience it for yourself, at: https://kamamutalab.org/

Feb 25, 2023 • 57min
Nature & Nurture #91: Dr. Dan Conroy-Beam - The Evolution & Computations of Mating Psychology
Dr. Dan Conroy-Beam is an Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of California, Santa Barbara. Dan uses an evolutionary and computational perspective to understand mate choice and mating relationships. Specifically, he is interested in how mate preferences are integrated with one another computationally in order to make mating decisions as well as the decision rules people use to navigate their mating markets and their relationships. Dan's work combines agent-based modeling of mate choice with studies of real couples to compare and explore candidate models for how people evaluate potential mates, pursue partners, and regulate their relationships. Learn more about Dan's work at: https://www.danconroybeam.com/
In this episode we cover a wide range of topics including Dan's research on computational mate choice, the theory and history of sexual selection, different reproductive strategies and status signaling in humans and other animals, and environmental factors influencing mate choice ranging from sex ratio, to resource availability, to modern dating app environments.

Feb 18, 2023 • 1h 12min
Nature & Nurture #90: Dr. Rob Henderson - Luxury Beliefs & Status Signals
Dr. Rob Henderson is a psychologist best known for his research on luxury beliefs.
In this episode, we talk about risk and resilience factors for success in America, including growing up in stable two-parent households. Rob shares how his experience growing up in the foster care system and his military service primed him for identifying luxury beliefs of the upper class during his studies at Yale and Cambridge. We discuss how luxury beliefs confer status upon elites, but disproportionately harm people in poor and working-class communities. As a case-study, we talk about changing norms surrounding monogamy and casual sex. Lastly, we talk about evolutionary pressures for and against monogamy, cooperation, and different moral values.
0:00:02Introduction to Dr. Rob Henderson and his research on luxury beliefs and social status0:00:47Discussion on the deteriorating state of young men in America0:03:21The differential effects of family structure on boys and girls0:04:56The interaction between nature and nurture in determining life outcomes0:06:08The impact of environmental inputs on cognitive ability and personality0:08:38The importance of stable and decent childhoods for children's well-being0:11:54The different ways in which "Lost Boys" manifest their struggles0:14:35The role of the military in providing structure and stability0:16:26The cultural shock experienced by Dr. Henderson at Yale0:20:22The concept of luxury beliefs and their role in conferring status0:25:21The moralization of luxury beliefs and the language treadmill0:28:08The harms caused by luxury beliefs, particularly in relation to monogamy0:36:56The impact of luxury beliefs on lower status people0:45:40The impact of luxury beliefs on mating psychology and relationships0:53:49The consequences of polyamory and the importance of monogamy for children1:00:08The potential consequences of a society-wide shift towards polyamory1:05:04The frustration of entitled attitudes towards income and education1:05:40The complexity of evolutionary forces and moral norms1:06:41The limitations of grounding morality solely in evolutionary models1:08:11The influence of economic education on selfish behavior in games1:09:21The importance of reputation and belonging in human psychology1:11:30Dr. Henderson's book and its exploration of personal experiences and social commentary