
Forward Thinking
Forward Thinking examines groundbreaking ways in which the world is evolving and how people and organizations can respond to changing demands and technologies. In each episode theorists, innovators, and business leaders discuss global trends—technology, artificial intelligence, globalization, urbanization, climate change, and more—with hosts Michael Chui and Janet Bush of the McKinsey Global Institute.
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Sep 25, 2024 • 49min
Is the world facing a state of permacrisis?
Leading economists discuss the baffling state of global crises dubbed 'permacrisis.' They dive into how the New Zealand central bank set an arbitrary 2% inflation target now used worldwide. The conversation also touches on a poignant question from the Queen about the Great Financial Crisis and the consequences of finance overshadowing growth strategies. With a focus on transformative leadership and sustainable recovery, they urge a rethinking of inclusivity and governance in today’s complex economic landscape.

Sep 3, 2024 • 48min
Has the drive toward human development been thrown into reverse?
The UNDP’s Pedro Conceição talks about today’s global gridlock, uncertainty complex, and a pervasive sense of disempowerment.See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information

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Jul 2, 2024 • 46min
Unpacking the mysteries of productivity
Chad Syverson, a distinguished service professor of economics at the University of Chicago Booth, dives into the intricacies of productivity. He discusses why productivity is vital for economic health and shares insights on how technology, particularly AI, may shape its future. Syverson contrasts productivity trends across regions, delves into the impacts of rising inflation on growth, and explores the implications of de-globalization. His thoughts on nurturing relationships highlight the human element in fostering a productive society.

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Jun 11, 2024 • 50min
Delivering services to the public—digitally—with Jennifer Pahlka
Jennifer Pahlka, founder of Code for America and former US deputy chief technology officer, discusses how digital transformation can reshape government services. She shares insights from her experiences in government, emphasizing the importance of user-centered design to enhance accessibility. Pahlka highlights the challenges of navigating equity in digital services and advocates for a product management mindset in public organizations. She also explores the role of AI in improving service delivery and the critical need to bridge the gap between policy and implementation.

Apr 15, 2024 • 37min
What’s the future for cities in the postpandemic world?
Co-host Janet Bush talks with Ed Glaeser, the Fred and Eleanor Glimp Professor of Economics and the chairman of the Department of Economics at Harvard University. His latest book, coauthored with health economist David Cutler, is Survival of the city: The future of urban life in an age of isolation, written to make sense of what might be the impact of the pandemic on cities. They covers topics including: • Has the pandemic changed cities temporarily or permanently?• What does the hybrid building look like? • Do developing world cities teach us something new? • How can homelessness be tackled? See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information

Jan 24, 2024 • 35min
Forward Thinking on Europe’s existential crisis with Marco Buti
Co-host Janet Bush talks with Marco Buti. Buti holds the Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa Chair in European Economic and Monetary Integration at the European University Institute. They cover topics including the following: The evolution of European policy coordination European competitiveness Whether Europe’s business model is sustainable The need of more speed among European companies in frontier technologies The importance of Europe’s capital markets union See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information

Dec 5, 2023 • 27min
Forward Thinking on the tricky business of removing carbon from our world with Nan Ransohoff
Co-host Michael Chui talks with Nan Ransohoff. Ransohoff is the head of climate at Stripe and leads Frontier, an advanced market commitment for carbon removal. She answers questions including: Is carbon removal a get out of jail free card for emitters? What are the most promising carbon removal technologies? Is it possible to scale up effective technologies quick enough? How much do costs need to come down before scaling is possible? What is an advanced market commitment? See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information

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Nov 14, 2023 • 1h
Forward Thinking on how geeks are changing the world with Andrew McAfee
Discover how major tech companies shape the global economy and consumer behavior. Follow Andy McAfee’s journey from a childhood geek to a leading voice in technology and business. Dive into the transformation of geeks into innovative problem-solvers and how embracing 'geek norms' can revolutionize organizational performance. Learn the delicate balance between data-driven decisions and intuition while fostering a culture of psychological safety. Explore the impact of empowerment and autonomy in organizations, using Amazon as a case study to illustrate effective collaboration.

Nov 1, 2023 • 47min
Forward Thinking on why we ignore inflation—from ancient times to the present—at our peril with Stephen King
Co-host Janet Bush talks with Stephen King. King is a senior economic advisor to HSBC, having served as the bank’s group chief economist from 1998 to 2015. His latest book, very prescient in timing, is We Need to Talk About Inflation: 14 Urgent Lessons from the Last 2,000 Years. In this podcast, he covers topics including the following: The root causes of the current resurgence of inflation How long higher inflation may persist What history tells us about the management of inflation The main economic problem that lies ahead Why inflation matters See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information

Oct 11, 2023 • 41min
Forward Thinking on the existential issues facing the middle classes in every country with Homi Kharas
Homi Kharas, senior fellow at Brookings Institution, discusses the changing character of the world's middle class and its impact on shaping the world. He also explores the implications of becoming middle class, the role of the middle class in climate change, and the potential effects of AI on this socio-economic group.
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