
The Immeasurable Podcast
The Immeasurable is dedicated to exploring the essential questions of our existence; who we are and where we are going. The intent is to inspire listeners to question assumptions of the mind, offering opportunities to ask deep questions into common life themes that are superficially accepted. We take no ideological positions except to encourage the spirit of inquiry. We aim to provide an in-depth look at dialogue and exploration around Krishnamurti’s teachings. There will be interviews of people who have spent time with Krishnamurti, as well as explorations around the content of his teachings, our programs, and our annual conference. The Immeasurable is a project of the Krishnamurti Center in Ojai, CA. The KFA is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
Latest episodes

Oct 5, 2022 • 1h 23min
EXPLORATION: Facing a World in Crisis | David Skitt
Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a talk titled “Facing a World in Crisis,” given by David Skitt at the Annual May Gathering in 2008. In his talk, David reflects on Krishnamurti’s statement “You are the world” as he discusses themes such as conflict, personal responsibility, and interconnectedness. The second part of the episode is a question and answer session with the audience.David is a former trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation Trust at Brockwood Park. He is the editor of a number of books of Krishnamurti’s talks and dialogues, one of which is titled Facing a World in Crisis after which this talk was named. You can find the book at our online bookstore store.kfa.org. I hope you enjoy the episode. Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

Aug 2, 2022 • 1h 45min
TEACHINGS: A Flame of Learning | J. Krishnamurti with Teachers
Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode comes from discussions Krishnamurti had with teachers at Brockwood Park School, which he founded in England in 1969. These dialogues were turned into a book called A Flame of Learning and are also referenced by Jaap and Shailesh in the previous episode, Exploring Education. Krishnamurti explores a teacher’s relationship with both the school and with their colleagues and students. In this episode, Krishnamurti questions the nature of freedom and authority, the root of fear and violence, and the possibility of awakening intelligence and sensitivity to order. The teachers and Krishnamurti also go into the nature of inquiry itself and the necessity for clarity, observation, and communication. He challenges educators to look at the need for radical psychological change and to consider the possibility of such changes in all human beings. Krishnamurti said, "Seeing something very clearly and acting instantly is intelligence. Can we have that intelligence among ourselves first, and then convey it to the student?" You can find this quote in the book A Flame of Learning, where you can read these dialogues in print. Visit store.kfa.org to order it now. I hope you enjoy the episode. For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/ Support the show

Jul 16, 2022 • 1h 4min
EXPLORATION: Exploring Education | Shailesh Shirali and Jaap Sluijter
Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is an exploration on education between Shailesh Shirali and Jaap Sluijter. Dr. Shailesh Shirali has been with the Krishnamurti schools in India since the early 1980s. He is a trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation of India (KFI) and has served as Principal of Rishi Valley School; he is currently the Director of Sahyadri School. He has also been in the field of mathematics education for many decades and is the author of several books for students and teachers. He has a particular interest in ancient Indian mathematics, and in facilitating inquiry into fundamental issues among teachers and students at the school level. Jaap Sluijter has a long-standing interest in the questions raised by Krishnamurti. Currently, Jaap is the Executive Director of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. Previously, he lived and taught at Brockwood Park School in England. He has an MA in Mechanical Engineering and worked as a design engineer in the field of camera systems and musical instruments. Together, they attempt to look at education through a wider angle: developing one’s full potential in and out of the classroom, as well as the challenges they face in education. You can also view this episode on YouTube.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

Jun 16, 2022 • 1h 13min
TEACHINGS: The Ground of Being and the Mind of Humanity | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 5
The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 5: The Ground of Being and the Mind of HumanitySeries: The Ending of TimeWhy is having ideas become so important?What is the difference between a religious mind and a philosophic mind?What is the human mind’s relationship to the ground?Why has man accumulated knowledge?When you love somebody there is no ‘me’, it is love. In the same way, when I say I am humanity, it is so. It is not an idea, it is not a conclusion, it is part of me.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Support the show

May 15, 2022 • 1h 20min
TEACHINGS: Breaking the Pattern of Ego-centred Activity | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 4
The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 4: Breaking the Pattern of Ego-centred ActivitySeries: The Ending of TimeWhat will make a human being change, deeply, fundamentally, radically?Will I, as a human being, give up my egocentric activity completely?The more knowledge I have acquired, as I have evolved, as I have grown, as I have experienced, it has strengthened me, and I have been walking on that path for millennia. Perhaps I may have to look at this problem totally differently - which is not to walk on that path at all; discard all knowledge I have acquired.Explanations have been the boat on which to cross to the other shore. The man on the other shore says there is no boat. Cross! What happens to me when I meet something that is completely solid, immovable, absolutely true?Psychological knowledge has made us dull.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - Support the show

May 1, 2022 • 1h 7min
EXPLORATION: Beyond Violence | Leah Luong & Jackie McInley
Welcome to The Immeasurable Podcast. The following episode is an exploration with Leah Luong and Jackie McInley and was recorded in Ojai at Pine Cottage, Krishnamurti’s former residence. The episode is titled after the book Beyond Violence. Krishnamurti said, “We have built a society which is violent and we as human beings are violent; the environment, the culture we live in, is the product of our endeavor, of our struggle, of our pain, of our appalling brutalities. So the most important question is: is it possible to end this tremendous violence within oneself?” While Jackie and Leah discuss this possibility together, they are by no means experts and this dialogue is an attempt to discover it as if for the first time. You can also view this episode on YouTube.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica)Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

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Apr 15, 2022 • 1h 26min
TEACHINGS: Why Has Man Given Supreme Importance to Thought? | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 3
The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 3: Why Has Man Given Supreme Importance to Thought?Series: The Ending of TimeQ: Is the 'ground' indifferent to mankind, as the physical universe appears to be? How does one find out if there is something more than merely the physical?Q: Why is it that theories are necessary and useful in organizing facts about matter outwardly, and yet inwardly, psychologically they are in the way, of no use at all?Seeking security for myself, for my family, for my group, and for my tribe, has brought about division.Why has man given importance to thought as the supreme thing?If I accept I am irrational completely, I am rational.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation TrustFollow The Immeasurab Support the show

Apr 7, 2022 • 59min
EXPLORATION: Conflict in Relationship: Krishnamurti's View | David Moody
Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. I’m Leah Luong and this episode is a talk given by David Edmund Moody during the 2018 Annual May Gathering. David was the first teacher hired when Krishnamurti founded the Oak Grove School in Ojai, California, in 1975. He subsequently served as educational director of the school, which was the position he held at the time of Krishnamurti’s death in 1986. He is the author of three books about Krishnamurti. His most recent book is titled Krishnamurti in America: New Perspectives on the Man and his Message (Alpha Centauri Press, 2020). David’s talk is called Conflict in Relationship: Krishnamurti's View. He raises questions such as, “Can thought be aware of its own limitations?” and “If you have no relationship with nature, how can you have relationship with human beings?” His talk centers around understanding the sources of conflict in human relationship, what it means to be related, and exploring the nature and meaning of thought.I hope you enjoy it.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)Subscribe to The Immeasurable on YouTube (@theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

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Mar 15, 2022 • 1h 21min
TEACHINGS: Cleansing the Mind of the Accumulation of Time | J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Part 2
The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - 2: Cleansing the Mind of the Accumulation of TimeSeries: The Ending of TimeTime is the enemy of man.Is there a beginning which is not enmeshed in time?We said nothingness is everything and so it is total energy. It is undiluted pure, uncorrupted energy. Is there something beyond that?Has man ever been free from the ‘I’?That emptiness can only exist when there is death of the particular.For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamericaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurtiKrishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation TrustFollow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurti_theimmeasurable)Like The Immeasurable on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Support the show

Mar 7, 2022 • 1h 6min
EXPLORATION: Freedom From the Known: The Krishnamurti Perspective | Cory Fisher
Welcome to The Immeasurable Podcast, this episode is a talk by Cory Fisher given during the annual May Gathering in 2019. Cory Fisher has been involved with the Krishnamurti Foundation of America since 2013, when he was among the first generations of Residential Students/Scholars at the Krishnamurti Center in Ojai, California. He now serves as the Director of Publications and Archives at the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. His talk Freedom from the Known: the Krishnamurti Perspective features a conversation between Krishnamurti and theoretical physicist David Bohm as well as a dialogue between Krishnamurti and Alaine Naudé. In this talk, Cory delves into what Krishnamurti means by “freedom from the known”, exploring Krishnamurti’s themes around consciousness, time, freedom, and knowledge. I hope you enjoy it.Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Support the show