

Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner
Jeremy Miner
What separates the top 1%? Learn how they think, lead, and win so you can do the same.
Hosted by Jeremy Miner—founder of 7th Level and creator of NEPQ, the world’s most effective sales methodology—The Next Level Podcast explores what it really takes to achieve scalable success.
Through conversations with elite entrepreneurs, visionaries, and high performers, Jeremy uncovers the mindset, habits, and strategies that drive lasting wealth, influence, and fulfillment. From building companies to becoming a better leader, this show gives you the frameworks to level up your income, identity, and impact.
Listen now and start thinking like the top 1%.
Hosted by Jeremy Miner—founder of 7th Level and creator of NEPQ, the world’s most effective sales methodology—The Next Level Podcast explores what it really takes to achieve scalable success.
Through conversations with elite entrepreneurs, visionaries, and high performers, Jeremy uncovers the mindset, habits, and strategies that drive lasting wealth, influence, and fulfillment. From building companies to becoming a better leader, this show gives you the frameworks to level up your income, identity, and impact.
Listen now and start thinking like the top 1%.
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Sep 24, 2025 • 53min
Secrets of Sales, Influence and Success with Dean Graziosi | Ep 389
Ever feel like you should be further ahead in life? In this episode, Dean Graziosi, Tony Robbins’ longtime business partner who has built 14 companies generating over $1B, shares why self-education beats the ignorance tax, how to sell as service, and the one hook that turned a flop into $100M. We dive into sales as a moral obligation, why money truly solves problems, and the difference between persuasion and lasting influence. If you want to collapse decades into days, this conversation will shift how you think about success, impact, and growth. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (01:12) Selling firewood in high school (04:57) Self education over formal education (06:18) The ignorance tax (14:29) Turning inspiration into action (19:12) Sales as a moral duty (23:34) What people truly want (26:19) Money solves problems (31:32) Persuasion versus influence (34:30) The hundred million dollar hook (42:19) Work life integration (45:43) The power of hunger 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Dean Graziosi Website: https://learn.mastermind.com/dean-graziosi-media Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deangraziosi YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ @deangraziosi

Sep 18, 2025 • 12min
PRIVATE Q&A with Andrew Bustamante and Jeremy Miner
Jeremy Miner sits down with ex-CIA officer Andrew Bustamante to reveal the truth about surveillance, persuasion, and influence under pressure. In this live Q&A, Andrew shares what it feels like to escape a hostile country, and how emotional regulation, mirroring, and tactical communication build trust in both espionage and sales. You’ll also learn why mastery comes from action, not study, and how to spot manipulation traits in leadership. Watch until the end, you’ll walk away with tools you can use in business, negotiations, and everyday conversations. Chapters: (00:00) The Most Dangerous Mission (01:12) Moral Flexibility vs Immorality (02:35) Do Masks Really Work? (03:32) How Spies Check Body Language (05:33) Can Sales Ever Truly Be Mastered? (07:16) How to Spot Manipulation and Counter-Tradecraft (09:03) Mastery Through Execution, Not Endless Study (09:59) Identifying Psychopathic Traits in Corporate Leaders Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Me Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMinerPodcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Andrew Bustamante Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/45htccD Read Andrew’s CIA book Shadow Cell: https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/ Support Andy’s sponsor Axolt Brain: https://axoltbrain.com/andy Listen to the EverydaySpy Podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast

Sep 17, 2025 • 1h 5min
Persuasion Secrets the CIA Doesn’t Want You To Know with Andrew Bustamante | Ep 388
Former CIA intelligence officer Andrew Bustamante joins Jeremy Miner to reveal spy tradecraft, persuasion secrets, and the hidden psychology of influence. A U.S. Air Force veteran turned CIA officer and founder of EverydaySpy, Andrew has built a global platform teaching intelligence techniques for business, leadership, and everyday life. In this episode, Andrew takes you inside nuclear bunkers, covert disguises, and the Shadow Cell operation the CIA tried to block. He breaks down the three lives every human hides (public, private, secret), how spies win compliance without pressure, and why the Agency fought to keep his book classified. You’ll hear tradecraft never before shared publicly and how you can use it to sell, influence, and connect on a deeper level. Chapters (00:00) From Air Force Bunkers to CIA Recruitment (09:26) Shadow Cell: The Book Fight & the CIA Mole (15:45) Public, Private & Secret Lives: The Persuasion Playbook (19:46) Sensemaking & Mirroring: Creating Compliance (26:07) Tonality, Baselines & Emotional Connection (43:35) Disguises & Cleansing Routes: Real Spy Tradecraft (54:47) AI, Surveillance & The Future of Persuasion (01:02:40) EverydaySpy: Where to Learn More Curious how to apply this to your sales strategy? Text me directly at 480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Andrew Bustamante Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/45htccD Read Andrew’s CIA book Shadow Cell: https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/ Support Andy’s sponsor Axolt Brain: https://axoltbrain.com/andy Listen to the EverydaySpy Podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast

Sep 3, 2025 • 42min
Why Average Skills Keep You Broke and What Winners Do Differently with Sabastian Enges | Ep 387
You don’t get paid for time you get paid for skills. In today’s economy, average won’t cut it. In this episode, I sit down with performance coach Sabastian Enges to break down why the market rewards producers (not consumers), how to build high-value skill sets that print options for your family, and the real triad that scales results: skills, mentality, and character. We get tactical on consultative selling, problem-finding vs. blaming “bad leads,” and why communication is the ultimate meta-skill for leaders, salespeople, and anyone who wants influence. If you’re serious about leveling up income, impact, and freedom, this conversation is your playbook. (00:00) Introduction (01:14) Sales & Speaking Equals Energy Transfer (03:27) Growing Up Broke To Learning Sales Early (05:24) First Business at 11: Blackberries & Hustle (07:04) Why Excellence Pays, Mediocrity Doesn’t (10:10) People Don’t Want Millions, They Want to Consume Them (16:07) Building Phoenix Consulting After 2008 (28:27) Empathy-Driven Selling: Treat People Like Grandma (31:12) Sales Is Communication & Leadership (38:29) Money Buys Options, Not Meaning 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Sabastian Enges Website: https://www.sabastianenges.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sabastianenges TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sabastianenges Twitter: https://x.com/sabastianenges LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabastianenges Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@SabastianEnges

Aug 27, 2025 • 48min
Authenticity Is Your Greatest Sales Advantage with Matt Gottesman | Ep 386
Consistency builds trust. Perfectionism kills progress. In this episode, Jeremy Miner sits down with Matt Gottesman, 3x founder, top-ranked podcaster, and creator of The Niche Is You®, to unpack the real psychology of building a brand that actually lasts. Matt shares how to resist chasing trends, why devotion beats discipline, and the simple shifts that will keep your audience loyal for years. Whether you’re a creator, entrepreneur, or sales professional, this conversation will help you align your work with who you really are and build something people can trust. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (05:24) Why Consistency Builds Trust and Authority (09:42) Stop Trying to Be the Next Someone Else (15:09) Evolving Without Losing Your Core Identity (17:29) Devotion vs Discipline in Mastery (26:05) Authenticity, Trust, and Building in Public (39:28) Clarity, Decisions, and Trusting Yourself 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Matt Gottesman Substack: https://mattgottesman.substack.com The Niche Is You® Podcast: https://mattgottesman.com/podcast Website: https://mattgottesman.com/about Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattgottesman YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCMYfij15oGv5K8ty1y-2JWg

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Aug 20, 2025 • 45min
The Science of Attraction In Sales & Dating with Veronika Szumska | Ep 385
Veronika Szumska, a high-ticket sales professional and dating coach, shares her insights on the surprising parallels between sales and dating. She emphasizes how mastery of energy and self-worth can lead to success in both realms. Veronika discusses the power of femininity in sales, the importance of tonalities for building trust, and how speaking multiple languages can enhance personal connections. Additionally, she explores the delicate balance of ambition and genuine connection, while encouraging a return to traditional values in modern relationships.

Aug 13, 2025 • 1h 10min
How To Build Trust & Sell Without Pressure with Eli Wilde | Ep 384
If you want to close more sales without using pushy tactics, this conversation with my friend Eli Wilde will show you exactly how to do it. Eli was Tony Robbins’ top salesperson, generating tens of millions in revenue, and now coaches top entrepreneurs, salespeople, and speakers on building influence that buyers trust. We cover the “Trust Trinity” framework, how to shift a prospect’s identity so objections disappear before they surface, and the tonality skills that keep people engaged. Whether you’re selling one-to-one, from stage, or through content, you’ll walk away knowing how to create real urgency and make it easy for prospects to say yes with confidence. Chapters (00:00) Introduction & Eli’s Background with Tony Robbins (04:12) Why Trust is the Real Currency in Sales (10:45) The “Trust Trinity” Framework for Influence (17:02) Identity Shifts That Remove Objections Before They Arise (24:18) Tonality & Presence: How to Keep Prospects Engaged (30:56) Selling from Stage vs. One-to-One Conversations (39:20) Building Urgency Without Pressure (46:05) Final Takeaways & How to Apply These Skills Today 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Eli Wilde YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@eliwilde858 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eliwilde_sales

Aug 6, 2025 • 57min
The Real Story Behind Sound of Freedom with Paul Hutchinson | Ep 383
In this episode, I sit down with Paul Hutchinson —entrepreneur, investor, undercover operative, and executive producer of Sound of Freedom — to uncover the real stories behind the film and the mindset shift that led him from building a $20B fund to rescuing over 7,000 trafficked children across the globe. This isn’t just a conversation about child trafficking. It’s about transformation; how the skills of persuasion, tonality, and emotional intelligence can be used not just to sell, but to liberate. Paul reveals how his ability to influence in high-stakes negotiations saved lives and how changing the man in the mirror is what really changes the world. If you're a sales professional, entrepreneur, or leader who wants to do more with your influence than just close deals, this episode will challenge and inspire you on a whole new level. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (03:14) Why a Billionaire Risks His Life to Save Kids (08:25) The Real Story Behind Sound of Freedom (14:31) The Shocking Truth About Human Traffickers (19:19) How Persuasion Saved Dozens of Lives (26:05) The Negotiation That Led to 124 Children Being Rescued (33:08) The Sound of Freedom: What Paul Heard That Changed Everything (37:19) From Ego to Healing: The Inner Work Behind the Mission (42:18) Plant Medicine, God, and Rebuilding the Man in the Mirror (47:48) The Power of Influence: Persuasion Beyond Sales (51:02) Transparency, Trust, and What Most Salespeople Get Wrong (54:05) Where to Find the Book and Support the Mission Get The Sound of Freedom Book: https://soundoffreedombook.com Connect With Paul Hutchinson Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/liberating.humanity YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Liberatinghumanity 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMinerPodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

Jul 30, 2025 • 49min
Why Most Salespeople Stay Average (And How to Break Out) with Armand Farrokh | Ep 382
If you want to stop chasing prospects and start closing with authority, this episode is your blueprint. I sat down with Armand Farrokh, founder of 30 Minutes to President’s Club the #1 sales podcast in the world and we broke down how top 1% sellers diagnose deeper problems, dismantle objections with tone (not pressure), and use identity reframes that make prospects sell themselves. Armand didn’t just grow revenue from $0 to $13M at Pave he engineered it with precision-level sales skills most reps never learn. This episode goes beyond surface-level tactics to show you how to disarm resistance, create urgency, and get buyers to fight for your solution. Watch this and you’ll understand why most salespeople are stuck in the shallow end and how to get out fast. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (03:38) Building the Gap: Roleplay with Live Audiences (04:42) How to Clarify Objections Without Triggering Defensiveness (08:25) Reframing Price Objections with Results-Based Thinking (12:12) Why You Should Push Prospects Away (at First) (17:00) The Power of Tone to Trigger Curiosity and Doubt (20:14) Turning Surface-Level Problems Into Emotional Stories (25:38) Magic Moment Questions That Unlock Real Pain (30:03) The 4 Types of Salespeople (Which One Are You?) (33:34) Identity Framing: Making Prospects Justify the Sale (42:17) Why Prospects Buy From You—Even If You're More Expensive 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMinerPodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Armand Farrokh Website: https://www.30mpc.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/30minutestopresidentsclub/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@30mpc Twitter: https://x.com/armandfarrokh LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/armand-farrokh/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC

Jul 23, 2025 • 51min
What I Wish I Knew About Money in My 20s with Ryan Pineda | Ep 381
Most sales pros spend so much time trying to make money, they forget to learn what to do with it. In this episode, I’m joined Ryan Pineda, a former pro athlete turned real estate mogul. He’s flipped over 700 homes, built multiple seven and eight figure companies, and amassed over 2 million followers across all platforms by teaching others what he calls The Wealthy Way. We talk about how to build real wealth (not just income), how to prioritize what can’t be delegated... faith, family, fitness... and why chasing shiny objects is the fastest way to stay broke. Whether you’re making $50K or $500K a year, this episode will challenge how you think about success. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:24) From pro baseball to entrepreneur mindset (10:53) Flipping couches: Ryan's first business breakthrough (15:27) Why mentorship beats self-education (18:32) Building a business structure and sales culture (31:17) The mindset you need to scale big (34:19) Why young people should risk it all (37:01) How to invest your time and money wisely (39:42) What to do if you're older and feel stuck (42:10) Top 3 mistakes entrepreneurs make (47:00) Why consistency beats shiny object syndrome 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Ryan Pineda YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ryanpineda Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanpineda Website: https://ryanpineda.com