Software Unscripted

Carson Gross, Creator of HTMX, discusses the regression in modern web development, the resurgence of hypermedia with HTMX, the benefits of combining MPAs and SPAs, the improvement and benefits of static typing, simplifying web applications with hypermedia and HTMLX, performance implications of code sharing, the role of JavaScript and TypeScript, re-examining progress in web development, and the potential of computers in web development.

Lane Wagner, Go backend engineer and founder of boot.dev, discusses Go's design and functional programming. Topics include the debate between tabs and spaces for indentation, advantages of functional programming languages, hierarchy of functions in functional programming, rock's concurrency story, breaking protocol and debugging in programming, function purity and IO operations in functional programming, Cgo, static compilation, and hot code loading in Go, and stateful IO in functional programming.

Richard Feldman, developer of the Roc programming language, discusses the language's inspiration and the challenges of using floats in data structures. They explore tag unions in Roc dictionaries and opportunistic mutation. The podcast also touches on the challenges of sorting and computing the median in functional programming, and the influences on Roc from languages like Elm, Rust, Haskell, and CoffeeScript.

Chris Nuernberger, experienced in making code run faster in the context of the JVM and optimizing C++ code, discusses optimizing code in V8 and the JVM, automatic parallelization, Haskell's success as a language, language design choices in rock, challenges of incorporating dynamic libraries in the rock compiler, and the appeal of having everything in one language.

Richard talks with Casey Muratori, game engine programmer and creator of the term Immediate Mode GUIs, about performance and programming culture, memory safety's impact on program architecture, and lessons for web development from game development, including improvements to CSS and different approaches to front-end development.

Conor Hoekstra, expert in programming languages, discusses the sustained success of programming languages, the rarity of big tech companies adopting new languages, the evolution of programming from ones and zeros to prompt engineering, challenges of using AI editing services, the future of programming and job opportunities, a comparison of Python, Rust, and C++, and exploring the benefits and annoyances of co-pilot in programming.

Nikita Prokopov, open-source Clojure developer and creator of the Fira Code typeface, discusses software disenchantment, Rust programming language, balancing developer ergonomics and performance, optimizing a parser, challenges of upgrading software libraries, impact of complexity on development, and personal preferences in software culture.

Richard interviews Brian Carroll, an expert in using WebAssembly in practice. They discuss the benefits and challenges of WebAssembly, its slow adoption, and its potential to replace JavaScript. They also explore the drawbacks of using Electron for app development and the efficiency of web browsers as a software delivery platform. The podcast compares WebAssembly and JavaScript, highlighting when to use each and discussing their advantages and performance differences. Additionally, they delve into the variations in SIMD instructions targeting specific architectures and the limitations of WebAssembly for front-end development. The podcast concludes with speculation about widespread adoption and the potential for WebAssembly to replace JavaScript in building applications.

Matt Godbolt, author of godbolt.org Compiler Explorer, discusses disassembling language designs including reference counting optimizations, destructors and unwinding, and defending the decision of NaN != NaN. They also explore the benefits of Dwarf Debug Format, stack unwinding, memory allocation strategies, and the logic behind NaN in programming. Additionally, they touch on reference counting implementation and advantages of atomic instructions for thread sharing.

In this podcast, Troels Henriksen, co-creator of the Futhark language, shares insights on designing compilers for faster performance. They discuss challenges in identifying dependencies in recursive functions, bringing names and scopes into functions, and the benefits of a compact tree representation in compiler design. They also explore how compilers can optimize program performance, the evolution of efficient function programming, and the goal of creating a fast functional programming language with automatic memory management.