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Sophia Tung and James Gross
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Jan 24, 2021 • 58min

104: Apple C(ar)mputer - why Apple should be thinking micromobility, not automobility

On this episode, Horace joins Oliver on the show to talk about what an entry by Apple into the mobility market would look like, and why a car is perhaps the wrong form factor to be looking at. They talk through the growth prospects for micromobility, and why Apple’s entry into the market would be a meaningful contribution to the world of mobility. This is on the back of Horace’s post ‘Apple Computer’ published on the Micromobility Industries blog recently. Check it out here: https://micromobility.io/blog/2021/1/11/apple-computer Specifically they dig into: - The parts of the upcoming Micromobility World conference that Horace is most excited about - The size of the car market vs the micromobility market as it currently stands - Where the margins lie - Why Apple has typically entered into industries that are still ‘embryonic’ - What a meaningful contribution could look like and what technologies would materially affect the user experience - The constraints of infrastructure on useability and the ‘feel’ of a vehicle - How computation becomes more personal over time, and why that will apply to vehicles too - The revisit Microsoft’s decision in the 90’s to get into the lounge, and why that was the wrong question. - Horace coins the term ‘smartphone-y’ Thanks again to the sponsors of this episode, Christensen Group. Christensen Group, a lead player in the micromobility insurance category. As the micromobility space continues to grow around the world with a diverse spectrum of business models, Christensen Group continues to be a leader in the space servicing: e-scooter, moped, motorcycle, e-bike sharing operations along with: subscription & private based programs,  manufacturers, AI technology providers and more. They will have a virtual booth at this year’s Micromobility World event on January 27-29.  They invite you to stop by and have a chat with them about safety, fundraising, regulatory requirements, and trends in the risk and insurance marketplace, or whatever else is on your mind. They’re also going to have folks from Zagster, ZipCar, Ford Mobility, and others dropping by their booth to discuss litigation trends, regulatory missteps, fundraising and start-up strategies, and more.
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Jan 16, 2021 • 47min

103: The world's largest micromobility market with Alan Jiang, founder of Beam

Fun fact: Seoul, South Korea is the largest market for shared scooters globally, and Beam is one of the largest players there. This week, Oliver interviews Alan Jiang, founder of Beam, the largest shared Micromobility operator in Asia-Pacific. Asia is one of the hotspots for micromobility given its home to the majority of the world’s population experiencing the growth, density and ensuing urban congestion where micromobility really thrives. We’re very excited to cover more of it in 2021. Alan has a great view over the market and it's nuances. Speciflcally they dig into: - Alan’s background at Uber and then Ofo - how he’s seeing the market develop in Asia and Australasia - Seoul - it’s the worlds biggest scooter market, and you're one of the largest players. What are the benefits to scale and what are they seeing? - Beam’s unique commodity hardware strategy - fundraising and what he’s seen change in the conversations over the last 12-24 months - how Alan think of the ridehailing players, and whether Grab/Go-Jek/Didi are going to go hard into micromobility
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Jan 8, 2021 • 58min

102: Micromobility Supply Chains, Distribution and Maintenance with Puneeth Meruva of Trucks VC

Today on the show, Oliver interviews Puneeth Meruva, Associate at Trucks VC about their latest report: The Three Axes of Micromobility: Supply Chains, Distribution and Maintenance about the often unseen world of getting Micromobility into the hands of consumers. This is a topic that hasn’t received much coverage to date, so it was a fascinating conversation fully of nitty-gritty and relatively technical details about the opportunities for development and investment in the micromobility ecosystem. Specifically they dig into: - a recap of Trucks VC, their thesis and other portfolio companies in the Micromobility space - Puneeths background and how he got there  - what the research was about, and why Trucks undertook it - key findings in the fields of components, distribution, maintenance etc - Whether timelines for new product development are getting shorter vs longer and why - Who the interesting businesses are in the distribution and maintenance space - future opportunities in design and tech both in vehicles and business models (including a reference to www.nimbus.green - one of the companies Oliver is most excited about at the moment) - A discussion about vehicle platforms, and whether Puneeth agree’s with Horace’s thesis that these vehicles will become computing platforms. The report itself can be found here [https://www.trucks.vc/blog/the-three-axes-of-micromobility-supply-chains-distribution-and-maintenance]
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Dec 17, 2020 • 57min

101: Aiding the micromobility buyers journey with cofounders of Ridepanda

This week Oliver interviews Chinmay Malaviya and Charlie Depman, cofounders of Ridepanda, about their efforts to build a better customer journey for purchasing owned micromobility. The platform is relatively new, but it hits on a very relevant need. Thanks to Reilly Brennan from Trucks VC for putting us onto them. Specifically we dig into: - Their backgrounds at Bird, Scoot and Lime and how that led them to starting this business. - The core customer needs that they’re trying to solve - The importance of trusted reviews and reliable servicing for customers - What matters to customers, and why brand is far further down the list than expected - What early traction they’re seeing - How COVID 19 has impacted the buyers guide - Their fundraising journey and what they’re seeing for Micromobility related startups in general.
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Dec 10, 2020 • 1h 8min

100: A retrospective

This week, Horace joins Oliver for the podcasts 100th episode, and they run through what’s happened in the last 2 and a half years, and wonder aloud what will happen in the next two. Specifically they dig into: - Horace’s early theses - The emergence of scooters and why they proved to be so challenging to Horace’s ideas about what vehicles would be most popular - The biggest mistake that Horace thinks he made in his early theories - What Oliver considers the biggest barriers, and where he over and underestimated progress over the last 2 years - Where they expect to see development - The pace of adoption, and why patience is needed.
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Dec 4, 2020 • 43min

99: The biggest micromobility subscription service out there - Richard Burger, co-founder of Swapfiets

This week Oliver interviews Richard Burger, co-founder of Swapfiets, the largest bike subscription service in Europe. With more than 220,000 subscriptions and growing rapidly, it’s a great discussion on solving the job-to-be-done for biking/micromobility, as well as the challenges and opportunities of operating large service business at scale across 6 (soon to be 7) countries. Specifically, they cover: - The context of the existing bike ownership experience in the Netherlands that gave rise to paying 16 euros a month to rent a bike. - The origins of Swapfiets, and the genius marketing decision to use a blue-front wheel to make the bike’s identifiable - The operational challenges and economics of the subscription business - Who their customers are, and how that’s evolved over time - The launch of their new electric bike, and how that’s performing
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Nov 27, 2020 • 49min

98: The rapid growth of Europe's Bolt with head of micromobility, Dmitri Pivovarov

This week Oliver interviews Dmitri Pivovarov from Bolt Mobility, which is one of the largest ride hailing players in Europe, and has been quietly building a micromobility business which recently announced it was expanding to challenge Tier as the largest micromobility operator in Europe in 2021. Oliver uses this episode to dig into the interplay between ride hailing and micromobility, how Bolt has built the business, and get an update on the overall shared micrombobility market in Europe. It’s a great interview. Specifically, they dig into: - The history of Bolt Mobility, and it’s origins as Taxify - Clarify that they are indeed, not endorsed by Usain Bolt - Talk about the nature of mobility markets, and servicing this demand with either ride hailing or micromobility - How the Bolt team sought to approach building the micromobility business, and how they’ve built a very cost-effective operations engine for scaling - The unique design points from their new custom hardware - The state of the other players in the European market
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Nov 20, 2020 • 1h 4min

97: The magic of children, and why disruption has less to do with competence than business models

Today Oliver interviews Horace for a fun review of the parallels between the smartphone revolution and what we’re seeing play out with the growth of lightweight electric vehicles trips. It’s also a hilarious chance to hear Horace talk about how we think about fostering children as a species and ask why the same thinking isn’t applied to how we run organisations and products. Specifically they dig into: - The history of the smartphone industry, and why business model rather than competence dictated the fall of Nokia. - Discuss the importance of understanding the framing of job-to-be-done and why that matters for micromobility. - Horace points out how the fostering and growth of children is so natural to humans, and asks why it is yet so challenging for companies to foster comparable innovation. - Talk about how incumbent car manufacturers will be treating micromobility internally, and how the immune systems of the organisations will struggle to accept such a wide departure from their standard business model. Micromobility World is our first all-digital event running from Jan 27-29th, 2021. We have some of the biggest names in the worlds of owned and shared micromobility, disruptive innovation, urban design and investing coming together to talk about how to supercharge the Micromobility revolution. Tickets are free, with a VIP tier for curated community participation. Register at Micromobility.io - it’s going to be awesome.
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Nov 13, 2020 • 51min

96: Heavy-duty micromobility - the story of Ubco with CEO Timothy Allan

This week Oliver interviews a fellow kiwi, Timothy Allan, CEO of Ubco, about their heavy duty electric motorbikes. While the firm is small - they’ve sold a bit more than a thousand units across NZ, Europe and the US - it ticks a few interesting disruptive innovation boxes, mainly by meeting the customers core needs in very specific ways through improved reliability and then  creating new jobs to be done in the form of silent transport and portable power packs that change the basis of competition against other ICE options.  Specifically, they dig into:  - The history of the Ubco brand/motorbikes in 2014/15 - Why farming environments in New Zealand are the perfect place to test heavy duty micromobility vehicles - The value of getting bikes into the hands of customers for real world feedback - The importance of quality in componentry in a heavy duty setting - The challenges incumbent manufacturers will face transitioning across to electric powertrains - How they think about distribution and servicing, and how that impacts the business - The story of fundraising for an electric motorbike manufacturer down in the middle of nowhere.
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Nov 5, 2020 • 1h 2min

95: Why low-cost, low-bandwidth data will unlock micromobility's potential with Amir Haleem, CEO of Helium

This week Oliver interviews Amir Haleem, the CEO of Helium, about Peoples Network, which promises ubiquitous coverage and data costs of $1/year to connect a Micromobility vehicle. Oliver has been incredibly excited about what they’re up to for a while, and so welcomed the opportunity to sit down and unpack what they’re doing and why it’s transformational. Specifically, they dig into: - The history of Helium and the importance of permissionless innovation. - What is LoRaWan and why does it matter? - Why does Helium use blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies to make their back end system function, and why is that largely irrelevant for customers? - How big the network now is, and how quickly it’s building out - Why this may well be the new model for how we build out telco networks in the future. - Why this is perfectly suited to Micromobility, and what possibilities it unlocks in terms of diagnostics, tracking and other value add services - How $1/year data costs are transformational, and how the costs for transponder and hotspot is going to rapidly decline. - They review the competition for creating connected Micromobility, comparing data costs, battery performance, coverage and the sort. If you’re interested in the Helium project, go and check out The Hotspot Podcast Full disclosure, Helium were kind enough to sponsor earlier podcasts and Oliver has got a few hotspots to learn more about their tech, but mainly, as you can hopefully hear, we just think they’re on to something and building out the best solution for micromobility connectivity that’s available in this space.

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