

Public Key
Chainalysis
Public Key is the cryptocurrency and compliance podcast, brought to you by Chainalysis.
Every week Chainalysis Chief Marketing Officer, Ian Andrews sits down with thought leaders in the space to discuss
▪Emerging risks and opportunities in blockchain technology
▪How policymakers around the world are approaching crypto regulations
▪Data-driven insights into the latest trends in crypto economics and crime.
▪Breaking news in the crypto market
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To learn more about criminal activity in crypto including scams, money laundering, ransomware and more, download the 2023 Crypto Crime Report: https://go.chainalysis.com/2023-crypto-crime-report.html
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⚠Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Every week Chainalysis Chief Marketing Officer, Ian Andrews sits down with thought leaders in the space to discuss
▪Emerging risks and opportunities in blockchain technology
▪How policymakers around the world are approaching crypto regulations
▪Data-driven insights into the latest trends in crypto economics and crime.
▪Breaking news in the crypto market
Subscribe to be first to hear the Public Key podcast
You can also stay up to date with crypto news by reading the industry leading Chainalysis blog and subscribing to the Chainalysis newsletter: https://blog.chainalysis.com/
Follow Chainalysis on:
▪Twitter: https://twitter.com/chainalysis
▪LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/10607336
To learn more about criminal activity in crypto including scams, money laundering, ransomware and more, download the 2023 Crypto Crime Report: https://go.chainalysis.com/2023-crypto-crime-report.html
To Keep Up With Ian Andrews, follow him on:
▪Twitter: https://twitter.com/IanAndrewsDC
▪LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
⚠Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
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Jul 18, 2023 • 37min
Everything you Need to Know About Blockchain-Based Payment Systems
Everything you Need to Know About Blockchain-Based Payment Systems
Napster evolved into Spotify, Skype evolved to Whatsapp Calls and Facetime, even speaking to a teller at a bank has evolved into the ATMs and internet banking, but the payment industry seemingly hasn’t progressed much in the last century and in our latest episode, host Ian Andrews sits down with Joey Garcia, Director and Head of Public Affairs, Policy, Regulatory Affairs at Xapo Bank, who explains why.
Joey shares his early days involved in digital asset regulation in Gibraltar and how Xapo Bank is bridging the gap between traditional banking and blockchain-based payment settlement systems.
He shares the promise of stablecoins in the future of the digital asset landscape and how the defunct Facebook Libra / Diem project may have paved the way for thoughtful contributions to the EU’s MiCA Regulation.
He touches on grassroots adoption and use cases in Africa and LATAM and tries to shine a light on where DeFi will land when it comes to regulatory oversight.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:25) - Joey Garcia’s crypto journey and discussion on the early days of cryptocurrency regulation in Gibraltar
(5:15) - Evolution of technology and Xapo Bank's role as a bridge between traditional banking and blockchain-based payment settlement systems
(11:45) -Discussion of CBDC’s, USDC stablecoin, blockchain-based payments and everything in between
(14:37) - Explanation of fractional banking and how Xapo offers interest on crypto held in custody
(17:45) - Understanding the business models of VASPs above and beyond just AML and Compliance
(22:45) -Is MiCA the GDPR of virtual asset regulations?
(26:59) -Overview of the development of digital asset regulation in different regions and the impact the Libra project had on such regulations
(32:15) - One stablecoin to rule them all?
(35:25) - What is the main factor behind grassroots crypto adoption in Africa and LATAM?
(37:45) - Where does DeFi fit into the future of digital assets and blockchain technology?
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Website: Xapo Bank: The Digital Bank For A Global Village
Podcast: Xapo Bank: Mavericks Podcast
Announcement: Xapo Bank is the First Bank to Fully Integrate With USDC
Blog: Maximizing Your Wealth: 3 Things to Know About Xapo Bank's 4.1% Interest* Rate on USD
Podcast: Crypto Pod: The Graveyard of Crypto Exchanges
Blog: Multichain Protocol Experiences Mysterious Withdrawals, Suggesting Multi-Million Dollar Hack or Rug Pull
Blog: Crypto Crime Mid-year Update: Crime Down 65% Overall, But Ransomware Headed for Huge Year Thanks to Return of Big Game Hunting
YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page
Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain
Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments.
Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram
Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
Joey Garcia (Director and Head of Public Affairs, Policy, Regulatory Affairs, Xapo Bank)
This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Jul 11, 2023 • 39min
Exploring the Complexities of Crypto Taxes and Accounting
Exploring the Complexities of Crypto Taxes and Accounting
Crypto and digital asset taxation and accounting still seems to leave many crypto goer’s and institutions looking to hold crypto on their balance sheets, with sleepless nights.
In this episode, Ian Andrews sits down with experts, Ann Jaskiw (VP of Engineering) and Austin Woodward (Co-Founder and Executive Chairman), from leading crypto taxation and accounting software providers, TaxBit to discuss the complex problem of crypto taxes.
They explain the challenges of tracking and reporting crypto transactions, the distinction between tax and accounting and explore the concept of cryptocurrency as property, while leaving room for the potential of stablecoins being treated as currency.
They highlight the importance of cost basis interchange and lend their insights into the future of tokenization and the exciting developments with regulatory guidelines in the USA and around the world.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:35) - Austin's journey to solve expensive transaction fees problem which led the founding of TaxBit
(4:35) -Ann’s journey from thinking the Bitcoin whitepaper was impractical and Ethereum was difficult to build on into transitioning into crypto during the pandemic
(7:45) - Why Tax and Accounting are not the same and how TaxBit was able to specialize in crypto assets
(10::37) - The complexities of tax rules and regulations of web2 brands looking to enter into web3
(20:54) -The potential designation of crypto as currency or property
(27:45) - Where NFTs and real world asset tokenization fits into the cryptocurrency and digital asset ecosystem
(34:59) - The biggest challenges for companies that want to hold crypto and digital assets on their balance sheet and how TaxBit solves for these hurdles
(39:15) - The cost basis interchange and the future of the TaxBit Network
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Website: TaxBit helps you deliver the future of financial services, confidently
Report: The Chainalysis Guide to On-Chain User Segmentation for Crypto Exchanges
Blog: The Chainalysis Guide to On-Chain User Segmentation for Crypto Exchanges Report Preview
Blog: Operationalize Your Crypto Accounting
Blog:Tax Compliance for the Digital rEconomy
Announcement: TaxBit CEO Austin Woodward Steps Down, COO Lindsey Argalas Tapped As Successor
Life at Chainalysis:Employee Stories: Henry Fletcher, Enterprise Account Executive
Website: Careers at Chainalysis
YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page
Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain
Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments.
Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram
Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
Ann Jaskiw (VP of Engineering, TaxBit)
Austin Woodward (Co-Founder and Executive Chairman, TaxBit)
This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Jul 5, 2023 • 43min
Unleashing the Power of Real-time Crypto Data for Developers
Unleashing the Power of Real-time Crypto Data for Developers
With blockchain data becoming the apex of most decentralized and centralized protocols and platforms, the Chainalysis team is extremely excited to invite to the podcast and the company, Alexander Langshur, Michael Calvey, and Harry Mellsop of Transpose.
The panel discusses the importance and the drawbacks of vast amounts of blockchain data and how Transpose was able to make these massive data sets usable for developers in the web3 ecosystem.
The team describes use cases of their on-chain data collection for tax, compliance and crypto investigations purposes and highlights the emerging trends that they are seeing in their real-time crypto data.
The Transpose team walks through the journey of building a company amidst a downturn in the market and the decision to join Chainalysis to accelerate the scalability of their data.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:25) - The founding team shares their experience in A.I., derivative financial products and self-driving cars and how Transpose was created
(10:52) -Discussion on the importance of blockchain data infrastructure and how Transpose provides a solution for the crypto industry
(18:45) - Solving the scalability challenge and how Transpose captures realtime blockchain data with the wide variety of blockchains
(22:37) - The flexibility of utilizing on-chain data for tax, compliance and other crypto investigations use cases
(25:45) - Emerging trends in data including stablecoins finding product market fit and NFT and ENS Domain usage
(29:45) - The evolution of making blockchain data easier to read and what sets Transpose apart from other blockchain data dashboards
(32:59) - Focusing on improving the UX of crypto for developers vs. customers
(36:15) - The difficulties of building a company during crypto winter and the importance of perseverance as blockchain data founders
(40:15)- The decision to being acquired by Chainalysis vs. continuing building the company as a stand-alone business
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Website: Transpose: Real-time crypto data. Reliable data infrastructure for companies and developers at any scale
Report: The Chainalysis Guide to On-Chain User Segmentation for Crypto Exchanges
Blog: The Chainalysis Guide to On-Chain User Segmentation for Crypto Exchanges Report Preview
Chainalysis In Action: Israeli Authorities Disrupt Hezbollah and Iran Quds Force Terrorism Financing Crypto Infrastructure, Seize $1.7 Million
Announcement: Unveiling Indexed On-Chain Lending Data in Transpose
Blog: How Transpose is different to Dune
Announcement: Welcoming Transpose to Chainalysis
YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page
Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain
Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments.
Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram
Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
Alexander Langshur (Co-Founder & CEO, Transpose)
Michael Calvey (Co-Founder & COO, Transpose)
Harry Mellsop (Chief Technology Officer, Transpose)
This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Jun 27, 2023 • 41min
Everything You Need to Know About Staking and Crypto Regulations in Canada
Everything You Need to Know About Staking and Crypto Regulations in Canada
With the crypto regulatory climate heating up in the US, Ian Andrews sits down with Dean Skurka (President & Interim CEO, WonderFi), Lorien Gabel (Co-Founder & CEO, Figment) and Jennie Levin (Chief Regulatory Officer, Figment) to discuss Canada’s innovative approach to crypto regulation and staking.
The panel explains what staking as a service (SaaS) is and demystifies the difference between yield and rewards and how this discrepancy impacts custodians, token holders and the risk for regulators around the world.
The conversation jumps into the differences between the Canadian and USA regulatory crypto landscape and approach to staking and shares the journey of both WonderFi and Figment and how they lead with compliance before regulations in Canada had been implemented.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:25) - Canada leading innovation with adopting crypto and formulating regulatory guardrails for ecosystem
(5:52) - Why staking became the foundation of Figment and the company’s focus on infrastructure and backend services for crypto ecosystem
(8:45) - Discussion on the regulatory environment in Canada for crypto and blockchain service providers
(13:08) - WonderFi and Figment focusing on providing Canadians with compliant and safe access to digital assets
(18:45) - The differences between the Canadian and USA regulatory crypto landscape
(22:42) - Figment's role in providing staking infrastructure and a breakdown between proof of work and proof of stake
(27:05) - WonderFi's focus on counterparty risk mitigation and offering staking services to clients as a compelling product
(33:15) - The misconception in the USA about staking as a service and educating legislatures about the actual risks of staking
(39:15)- Liquid staking and its capital efficiency depending on the type of holder
(43:35) - Figment app and making staking accessible to the masses while complying with regulations
(46:25) - WonderFi's focus on expanding internationally and partnering with trusted staking as a service provider or custodian
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Website: Figment - Digital Asset Staking Built for Institutions
Website: WonderFi - A Modern Wealth Generation Company
Research: Protocol Staking is Not An Investment Product and Rewards Are Not “Yield” (and why this matters)
Video: What is Staking? How to Secure Networks and Earn Rewards Staking Digital Assets
Press Release: Bitbuy Private Wealth Launches Crypto Staking Service for Individual, Corporate, and Institutional Clients
Blog: Cryptocurrency Mining Pools and Money Laundering: Two Real World Examples
Article: Staking is the Foundation of Web3
YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page
Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain
Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments.
Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram
Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
Dean Skurka (President & Interim CEO, WonderFi)
Lorien Gabel (Co-Founder & CEO, Figment)
Jennie Levin (Chief Regulatory Officer, Figment)
This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Jun 20, 2023 • 23min
Exploring Web3 Gaming and DeFi Solutions in APAC Built on Tezos
Exploring Web3 Gaming and DeFi Solutions in APAC Built on Tezos
Our APAC focused episodes continue as Ian Andrews discusses the factors impacting the massive grassroots adoption of crypto and DeFi in Asia with Jivan Tulsiani (Head of Marketing, TZ APAC).
Jivan talks about the popularity of Tezos’ layer one proof of stake blockchain in the APAC region and how artists, developers and founders are attracted to the affordable and community-driven entry point for all creators and the ability to leverage Tezos’ self-amending mechanism.
Jivan talks about the big brand partnerships including Manchester United CF and Mclaren and describes Tezos’ incubator focus on gaming, DeFi solutions and the NFT ecosystem, while highlighting how to optimize their blockchain to reach the million transaction per second goal.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:35) - Pioneering a Layer 1, Proof of Stake Blockchain and affordable grassroot entry point into blockchain
(5:02) - Jivan's background and how he went from the military to edtech then into world of crypto and ultimately working at Tezos.
(8:45) - Tezos' self-amending feature and how this type of governance works in practice.
(11:08) - APAC region's high level of grassroots crypto adoption and driving factors
(14:45) - Manchester United CF, Mclaren and other big brands entering web3 and crypto through Tezos blockchain
(16:12) - Tezos' focus on NFTs, gaming and DeFi solutions and unique use cases in Asia.
(17:05) - Mumbai upgrade and the focus on a million transactions per second, enabling global payment processing networks on-chain
(19:15) - Exciting startups and projects that are emerging out of the APAC region
(21:25) Tezos' incubator program and its benefits for blockchain entrepreneurs and crypto investors
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Website: TZ APAC: A web3 ecosystem builder empowering founders, creators and developers
Announcement: The Web3 industry’s first ever report investigating the impact of incubators in Asia
Article: TZ APAC and DSH Manila: Empowering Filipino Artists Together
Announcement: TZ APAC Tezos Incubator Demo Day - 5 JULY 2023, 5-9PM (Singapore)
Chainalysis On-Demand: Chainalysis Links Amsterdam 2023 On-Demand
LinkedIn Post: Asian Pacific American Heritage Month (APAHM)
YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page
Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain
Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments.
Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram
Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
Jivan Tulsiani (Head of Marketing, TZ APAC)
This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Jun 13, 2023 • 32min
Malaysia’s Crypto Regulations and Role of Third Party Custodians for Consumer Protection
Malaysia's Crypto Regulations and Role of Third Party Custodians for Consumer Protection
Our APAC focused episodes continue as Ian Andrews ventures into discussions about Malaysia with the CEO of MX Global, Fadzli Shah and discovers why Malaysia is one of the strictest crypto regulatory environments in Asia.
Fadzli describes the Malaysian Crypto Regulations compared to other jurisdictions in the APAC region and substantiates the clarity in legislation as cryptocurrency is deemed as a security and the burden and onus of regulation and compliance are on the cryptocurrency exchanges.
The conversation covers the importance of the mandatory third party custodianship and how that has helped with consumer protection and segregation of funds. He also describes the rate of institutional adoption and the best use cases to come out of the emerging Malaysian blockchain ecosystem.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:35) - Fadzli early foray into crypto and the challenges of getting the required licenses for MX Global in Malaysia
(5:58) - Does Malaysia have one of the more stricter crypto regulations in Asia?
(8:45) - Is Bitcoin and Ethereum and other crypto considered securities in Malaysia?
(12:38) - In Malaysia the regulators regulate the operators not the public when it comes to crypto
(15:45) - Thoughts on CBDCs and the evolution of digital payment transactions in Malaysia
(19:34) - The crypto demographic in Malaysia and the most common and unique use cases
(23:05) - Understanding the institutional adoption of crypto in Malaysia and what it means to hold crypto on the books
(26:15) - Is Singapore still trying to be a crypto friendly jurisdiction?
(29:25) The future of digital assets may be real world utility for NFTs and other blockchain technology
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Website: MX Global: The safest and easiest way to buy and sell digital currencies such as Bitcoin & Ethereum.in Malaysia
Chainalysis LinkedIn: Key House Republicans Unveil Crypto Market Structure Draft Bill
Blog: ComplyAdvantage - Malaysia Cryptocurrency Regulation - Is it Legal?
Article: MX Global secures capital injections from Binance and Cuscapi to fund growth plans
Article: Institutional adoptions of cryptocurrency still slow, says MX Global
Announcement: Cybersecurity Malaysia, MX Global sign MoU
Chainalysis On-Demand: Chainalysis Links Amsterdam 2023 On-Demand
YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page
Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain
Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments.
Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
Fadzli Shah (Chief Executive Officer, MX Global)
This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Jun 6, 2023 • 40min
Everything You Need to Know About APAC Digital Asset Regulations
Everything You Need to Know About APAC Digital Asset Regulations
It's becoming increasingly hard to keep up with the pace of the evolving crypto regulatory landscape in APAC.
In this episode, Ian Andrews is joined by Chengyi Ong (Head of Policy, APAC, Chainalysis) to discuss Hong Kong legalising retail crypto trading, Japan setting a high standard for crypto compliance requirements and Singapore’s approach to digital asset regulation.
Chengyi also sheds some light on the biggest takeaway from the FATF forum held in Japan and provides insights on how the APAC countries can remain innovative, while complying with regulations and not wanting to take their operations abroad.
Chengyi highlights success stories in the region regarding consumer protection and market integrity and forecasts the extensive policy work that will go into regulating real world asset tokenization in ASIA and APAC.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:15) - The impact of crypto winter on the APAC region and the widespread adoption of both crypto and DeFi
(9:35) - The trajectory of the Singapore cryptocurrency market and the push and pull of adopting new technology in the region
(12:45) - Why Hong Kong is making all the headlines and what is the Green Bond
(16:08) - The regulatory reaction to some of the biggest crypto missteps in 2022
(20:03) - The biggest takeaways from the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) virtual asset forum and how are VASPs progressing with the Travel Rule
(27:34) - What are the emerging APAC trends regarding consumer protection and market integrity
(31:45) - How do countries remain innovative and not stifle innovation and keep large VASPs from taking their business abroad
(33:50) - Regulations and policy work around real world asset tokenization in ASIA and APAC
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Website: We are paving the way for a global economy built on blockchains
Chainalysis Blog: South Korea’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs Sanctions North Korea Hacking Group Kimsuky, Identifies Related Crypto Addresses
Press Release: MAS proposes measures to reduce risks to consumers from cryptocurrency trading
Article: Japan to Enforce Tougher Crypto Anti-Money Laundering Laws Next Month: Report
Article: Hong Kong to be digital asset rules sandbox for China, says former city regulator
Blog: Crypto Adoption Steadies in South Asia, Soars in the Southeast
Chainalysis On-Demand: Chainalysis Links Amsterdam 2023 On-Demand
YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page
Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain
Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments.
Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
Chengyi Ong (Head of Policy, APAC, Chainalysis)
This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.
Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.
Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

May 30, 2023 • 36min
Exploring the Path to Digital Asset Adoption in Traditional Financial Markets
Exploring the Path to Digital Asset Adoption in Traditional Financial Markets
Traditional and regulated financial institutions have always found entering into the digital asset space rather complex and even scary.
In this episode, Ian Andrews is joined by Adam Levine (VP, Head of Corporate Strategy, Fireblocks) to discuss how their company has onboarded over 1800 organizations as the industry’s leading digital asset custody and settlement service provider.
Adam talks about the recent travel rule partnership with Notabene, Fireblocks role in the first completed cross border stablecoin transaction with NAB and how the US may be slipping behind other jurisdictions when it comes to innovation and crypto regulation.
Adam describes the payments and remittance use cases he is seeing in the digital asset space and explains how his company is helping TradFi institutions to ease safely and securely into DeFi protocols and permissioned pools.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:39) - Providing a comprehensive solutions for regulated institutions and digital assets moving on-chain
(4:35) - How crypto went from making no sense to him to leading Adam to transitioning from foreign exchange to Fireblocks
(7:50) - What is Fireblocks and how does this company fit into the entire digital asset landscape
(11:15) - Discussion on fiat- backed stablecoins with NAB and the Australian crypto market
(15:50) - The adoption of cryptocurrency and stablecoins to facilitate payments and remittances
(20:34) - How will institutions adopt DeFi and decentralized identity while mitigating counterparty risk?
(27:13) - Digital Asset regulation and how the US is playing catchup globally when it comes crypto innovation
(33:50) - Is Real world asset tokenization all hype or are there practical use cases that it can be used for?
(38:42) - The future of Fireblocks and how the industry is moving past speculation and into utility
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Press Release: Permissioned DeFi goes live with Aave Arc + Fireblocks
Announcement: Introducing Fireblocks Compliance Solutions Suite + Notabene Travel Rule Integration
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Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
Adam Levine (VP, Head of Corporate Strategy, Fireblocks)
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May 23, 2023 • 42min
Everything You Need to Know About Liquidity Pools And Crypto Custody
Everything You Need to Know About Liquidity Pools And Crypto Custody
If you are an investment firm or a traditional financial institution looking to dip your toes into the frigid waters of the digital asset market, where do you turn for a secure way to enter the space?
In this episode, Ian Andrews is joined by John Mannino (Chief Compliance Officer, sFOX) and Aleksandr Zhuk aka AZ (Chief Information Security Officer, sFOX) to answer this exact question. They discuss security and transparency of open blockchains and the crucial role sFOX plays as a prime dealer for institutions in the digital asset industry.
John and AZ also go in depth on customer protection, digital asset insurance and bankruptcy protection for crypto customers, while chiming in on safety measures for DeFi and the current crypto regulatory situation in the US.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:45) - Exploring the journey from TradFi to cryptocurrency with John Mannino and Alexander Zuck of sFOX
(7:56) - A discussion on cryptocurrency and Its Impact on security and transparency in the TradFi industry
(12:50) - Exploring the Origins of sFOX and the crucial role they play as a prime dealer for institutions across the crypto ecosystem
(18:50) - Discussion on customer protection, digital asset insurance and bankruptcy protection for crypto customers
(26:35) - CISO's Role in a Smaller Organization and why smaller teams may be more productive
(32:51) - Are some jurisdictions regulating by enforcement and are key institutions fully committed to crypto investment products
(36:23) - How to put in the proper safety measures when it comes to interacting with DeFi protocols
(40:23) - How does the confusing US regulatory framework around crypto impact sFOX and the blockchain industry as a whole?
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sFOX Blog: Key Takeaways: How to Navigate the Bankruptcy of FTX
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FintechTV: John Mannino on Cybersecurity in Crypto
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Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
John Mannino (Chief Compliance Officer, sFOX)
Aleksandr Zhuk (Chief Information Security Officer. sFOX)
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May 16, 2023 • 28min
How Sustainable Blockchains Are Offsetting Their Carbon Footprint
How Sustainable Blockchains Are Offsetting Their Carbon Footprint
As Bitcoin started gaining popularity during the last bull run, many of the critics were quick to point out the issue of energy consumption during the Proof of Work Mining process.
In this episode, Ian Andrews is joined by Jane Khodarkovsky (General Counsel, Celo Foundation), who will be educating us on what a carbon-negative and mobile-first blockchain ecosystem looks like and explain why this could be solution to the growing dilemma of the underbanked and unbanked in the USA and around the world.
Jane touches on her time at the Department of Justice and how the transparency of the blockchain is an attractive feature for identifying illicit activity and also tokenization of real world assets.
Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
(2:15) – What is Celo, the mobile first and carbon-negative blockchain?
(8:15) – Where does real world asset tokenization fit into sustainable blockchain projects
(12:35) – The challenge with sending fiat money to war torn nations or those affected by natural disasters
(16:31) – Jane’s crypto origin story of tracing digital assets while working for the Department of Justice
(19:40) – What does the future hold for blockchain and cryptocurrency amidst recent failures
(23:25) –The importance of diversity in blockchain with organizations like the Association For Women In Crypto
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Website: Celo: Building a regenerative digital economy that creates conditions of prosperity for all
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Chainalysis Blog: Bitcoin in War: OP_RETURN Callouts of Russian Military Bitcoin Addresses Point to Blockchains’ Growing Role in Geopolitical Conflict
Chainalysis Blog: The $80 Million Qubit Hack: How North Korea-linked Cybercriminals Attacked the Cross-chain Bridge
Medium: A mission-driven foundation responsible for education, community engagement, and ecosystem support of the Celo platform
CoinDesk Article: Celo Joins Chainlink Program Giving Developers Access to Data Feeds
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Speakers on today’s episode
Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)
Jane Khodarkovsky (General Counsel, Celo Foundation)
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Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.
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