

Summation with Auren Hoffman
Auren Hoffman
Non-obvious ideas that move the world. Auren Hoffman hosts leaders across tech, business, markets, and government. Summation is the permanent home for the relentlessly curious. Auren is CEO of NQB8, GP at Flex Capital, Chairman of Dialog; former CEO of SafeGraph and LiveRamp (NYSE: RAMP).
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Sep 29, 2026 • 42min
Helion CEO David Kirtley on why fusion finally works
David Kirtley, co-founder and CEO of Helion Energy, brings experience in plasma physics and space propulsion. He discusses containing star-hot plasma, using modern electronics to make fusion viable, and generating electricity directly without steam turbines. They explore pulsed reactors, compact power plants, Microsoft’s deadline, AI-driven engineering, and the potential impact of one-cent energy on data centers, desalination, and industry.

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Sep 22, 2026 • 1h 3min
Alex Rampell on why the best companies have hostages, not customers
Alex Rampell, Andreessen Horowitz general partner and co-founder of Affirm, explores Visa’s near-impregnable network, the hidden economics of credit card rewards, and why AI could turn payroll into payments. They examine whether enterprise software creates “hostages,” how AI may activate dormant data, and why payments can transform niche vertical software into major businesses.

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Sep 15, 2026 • 1h 1min
Life360 founder Chris Hulls on existential amusement and why public markets kill bold bets
Chris Hulls, Life360 co-founder and former Air Force officer, explores the costs of going public, why corporate language rewards blandness, and how public markets suppress bold bets. He reflects on existential amusement, founder risk, and building Life360 around one daily habit. The conversation also tackles normalized location sharing, AI’s threat to privacy, family-focused technology, and the endless work of running a home.

Sep 8, 2026 • 1h
Felicis founder Aydin Senkut: why moats are dead and alive
Aydin Senkut, founder and managing partner of Felicis and an early Google product manager, reflects on backing Shopify, Canva, Notion, and Adyen. They explore why overlooked companies outside Silicon Valley thrive, how founders reset their priors, and why capital is no longer a moat. The conversation spans AI-powered leverage, emerging defenses, national security, outsider thinking, and the unconventional choices behind greatness.

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Sep 1, 2026 • 1h 7min
Nir Eyal on belief, motivation, and the end of suffering
Nir Eyal, author of Hooked and Indistractable, explores the psychology of habits, motivation, and attention. He explains why timeboxing beats endless to-do lists, what really drives phone checking, and how technology creates both better tools and new problems. They also examine screen-time panic, AI companions, cognitive offloading, and beliefs as changeable tools for reducing suffering.

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Aug 25, 2026 • 46min
SecureAuth CEO Geoff Mattson on the coming fraudpocalypse and the death of the password
Geoffrey Mattson, CEO of SecureAuth and identity security leader, explains why AI agents can impersonate people and how that creates a deepfake-driven fraud crisis. He discusses passkeys killing passwords, continuous authentication instead of one-time checks, and practical defenses like scoped delegation, provenance, and simple family safe words.

Aug 18, 2026 • 54min
Fmr. Senator Cory Gardner: why the AI race is won on boring infrastructure and how China wins by making America hate AI
Cory Gardner, former U.S. senator and current NCTA CEO who led on Taiwan and tech policy, discusses how AI depends on boring infrastructure like fiber, spectrum, and memory chips. He highlights DRAM shortages, local opposition to data centers, and how foreign influence could make Americans wary of AI. Short, policy-forward conversation about practical bottlenecks and geopolitical tech competition.

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Aug 11, 2026 • 55min
CodeRabbit CEO Harjot Gill on software's new bottleneck and zero to $50m ARR in 2 years
Harjot Gill, co-founder and CEO of CodeRabbit and serial entrepreneur in developer tooling and AI workflows. He talks about why code review became software's new bottleneck. He explains centralizing reviews as a guardrail for agent-driven code. He discusses scaling a freemium, viral GTM into enterprise and how AI reshapes junior engineer productivity.

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Aug 4, 2026 • 1h 5min
Moritz Baier-Lentz on why the future of AI runs on video games
Moritz Baier-Lentz, investor and founder in gaming and AI who helped build Goldman Sachs’s gaming practice and co-founded General Intuition. He argues video games are the ideal training data for future AI. He discusses play as core to learning. He outlines how game design, player-driven worlds, and social platforms shape next-gen AI and hit games.

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Jul 28, 2026 • 57min
OpenAI Chief Economist Ronnie Chatterji: measuring the greatest technology of our time
Ronnie Chatterji, Chief Economist at OpenAI and former White House CHIPS coordinator, discusses how AI reshapes growth, jobs, and firms. He explains how people actually use ChatGPT and the shift from chatbots to agentic AI. He highlights adoption as the next big leap, how AI shows up (or not) in GDP, and surprising societal effects like a possible population increase.


