

Redefining Energy - TECH
Michael Barnard
Redefining Energy - Tech, a channel of the award-winning Redefining Energy podcast, features deep and broad conversations between global decarbonization leaders and technologists and host Michael Barnard. His informed perspectives on energy, industry and transportation enable him to have intense conversations with brilliant and knowledgeable people. You’ll be informed, stimulated and amused.
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Nov 6, 2024 • 45min
39: Buses - Hydrogen vs Batteries (1/2)
In this episode, host Michael Barnard engages in an enlightening conversation with Michael Raynor, co-author of The Innovator’s Solution and an expert in carbon reduction strategies. Raynor shares his personal journey into sustainability, the evolution of his focus on decarbonization, and his current work developing innovative solutions for addressing corporate carbon challenges. A key topic in the discussion is the Raynor’s new firm, S3 Markets, which emphasizes the need to decarbonize upstream commodities to meet net zero commitments. Rayner highlights the difficulty corporations face in managing Scope 3 emissions and suggests shifting from traditional carbon offsets to “insets,” where companies pool small investments to make a meaningful impact. This approach targets the 80-90 high-emission commodities responsible for the bulk of industrial emissions, which make up 15% of global GDP.The conversation takes a practical turn as Raynor discusses Mississauga’s hydrogen bus pilot program. He recounts how he identified potential issues with the initiative and reached out directly to the city’s mayor and council. His insights led to an invitation to present his findings to the Mississauga City Council on October 30th. The conversation turns to Barnard’s dive into the CUTRIC (Canadian Urban Transit Research and Innovation Consortium) in advancing urban transit decarbonization through research and policy recommendations, as well as some red flags.Barnard and Raynor explore the financial and environmental trade-offs between hydrogen and battery-electric buses. Barnard provides a critical analysis of data from California and the EU’s JIVE program, showing that hydrogen buses come with significant costs for refuelling infrastructure and maintenance. Comparatively, for the cost of five hydrogen buses, municipalities could procure twelve battery-electric buses, making the latter more attractive both financially and environmentally.The episode wraps up with a closer look at CUTRIC’s recent report for Brampton, where Barnard identifies questionable assumptions about hydrogen system costs. One factor alone, the cost assumption for gray hydrogen could have a $200 million swing, dwarfing the $10 million variance called out justifying a blended hydrogen + battery electric fleet instead of a battery electric only fleet.Raynor examines the varying carbon costs of different hydrogen types—gray, blue, and green—and emphasizes the importance of carefully choosing technologies based on actual benefits. The battery-electric buses offer superior emissions reduction per dollar spent.

Oct 23, 2024 • 53min
38. Methane crisis unveiled… and how to fix it (2/2)
Rob Jackson, Chair of the Global Carbon Project and author, dives into the methane crisis and its dire implications for climate change. He reveals that human activities contribute two-thirds of methane emissions, primarily from agriculture and fossil fuels. Jackson discusses innovative solutions such as transitioning to electric appliances and improving practices in oil and gas. He emphasizes the urgent need for regulatory changes and highlights promising strategies in agriculture, including reducing livestock methane through feed additives. The holistic approach links methane reduction to enhanced public health and climate benefits.

Oct 9, 2024 • 38min
37. Methane crisis unveiled… and how to fix it (1/2)
Rob Jackson, Chair of the Global Carbon Project and Senior Fellow at the Woods Institute, tackles the urgent issue of methane emissions, revealing that it's 80-90 times more effective than CO2 at trapping heat in its early years. He uncovers health risks from gas stoves and discusses how methane leaks throughout the natural gas supply chain challenge its 'clean' label. Jackson also highlights the technological advancements in detecting methane super-emitters but warns of difficulties in identifying smaller leaks, stressing the need for immediate action.

Sep 25, 2024 • 43min
36. Climate Change, Gray Rhinos and Black Swans (2/2)
In Episode 36 of the "Redefining Energy" series, host Michael Barnard engages Michele Wucker in a nuanced discussion about the complex nature of risk, focusing on the distinction between risk profiles and risk fingerprints.These fingerprints, shaped by an individual's inherent traits, experiences, and environmental influences, are crucial in understanding how people and organizations perceive and manage risks.The conversation emphasizes climate change as a significant "gray rhino" that requires strategic, rather than merely tactical, responses. Wucker examines the fossil fuel industry's risk perceptions, considering the potential for these companies to transition into the clean energy sector and exploring the implications of peak oil demand.The episode also addresses the evolving risk landscape in the wake of COVID-19, highlighting the importance of shared responsibility between individuals and corporations in reducing carbon footprints and adopting sustainable practices. Wucker underscores the need for collaborative efforts and the role of governments in shaping behaviors through policies and incentives. In the final segment, the discussion turns to the equitable distribution of risks and benefits in policy-making, particularly concerning independent workers.The episode advocates for improved systems to support these workers and stresses the importance of understanding personal risk decisions and their broader impact on society.

Sep 11, 2024 • 41min
35. Climate Change, Gray Rhinos and Black Swans (1/2)
Michele Wucker, author of *The Gray Rhino* and *You Are What You Risk*, dives into the concept of gray rhinos—obvious yet overlooked risks—especially focusing on climate change. She draws comparisons between gray rhinos and black swans, emphasizing the urgent need to address impending threats. Wucker discusses the societal factors affecting our perception of risk and how cultural differences shape responses. She also reflects on the pandemic as a gray rhino, highlighting the lessons learned for future preparedness.

Aug 28, 2024 • 40min
34. Building Energy Big: Secrets to Success with Bent Flyvbjerg (2/2)
In Episode 34 of the podcast "Redefining Energy Tech" (part 2/2), host Michael Barnard engages with Professor Bent Flyvbjerg, author of "How Big Things Get Done," to delve into the intricacies and strategies of megaprojects, focusing particularly on the comparison between pumped hydro storage and battery systems.The conversation emphasizes the importance of modularity and repeatability in large-scale projects and highlights various risks associated with construction, including data deficiencies and stakeholder management. Professor Flyvbjerg introduces the concept of the 'window of doom,' underscoring the necessity of swift project delivery to mitigate risk. The episode explores the advantages of modular construction as evidenced in projects like the Tesla Gigafactory and renewable energy sectors, contrasting these with the prolonged timelines typical of nuclear power plant constructions.The discussion provides actionable recommendations, urging listeners to review critical risk management heuristics and the variance chart from Flyvbjerg's book. These insights are aimed at enhancing project management practices in infrastructure development. Listeners are encouraged to understand base rates and project risks, utilize heuristics for successful project management, and consider the significance of the variance chart in Chapter 9 of Flyvbjerg's book. The episode concludes with a call to develop personal heuristics for managing megaprojects effectively.

Aug 14, 2024 • 41min
33. How Big Things Get Done: Energy Megaprojects (1/2)
Michael Barnard talks with Professor Bent Flyvbjerg (part 1/2), a leading expert on megaprojects and author of "How Big Things Get Done."Flyvbjerg shares insights from his extensive research, revealing that a staggering 99.5% of projects fail to meet budget, timeline, and benefit expectations. He discusses the critical importance of analyzing successful projects, particularly in the context of renewable energy, where solar and wind initiatives have proven to be more effective than nuclear power. Flyvbjerg highlights the creation of a database containing over 16,000 megaprojects, which provides a comprehensive overview of the inherent challenges of nuclear energy. These challenges include regulatory hurdles and skill shortages, which contribute to the poor performance of nuclear projects. Additionally, Flyvbjerg explores the concept of small modular reactors as a potential solution to some of these issues, although they also face significant limitations. Through this discussion, the episode sheds light on the complexities of project management within the energy sector and the factors that lead to successful outcomes. Flyvbjerg emphasizes the importance of studying successful projects to understand how they overcome the odds and achieve their goals. He highlights solar power, wind energy, and transmission as examples of successful project types, contrasting them with poorly performing projects like nuclear power and the Olympic Games.Overall, the episode provides valuable insights into the dynamics of megaprojects, particularly in the renewable energy sector, and underscores the need for effective project management strategies to ensure success.

Jul 24, 2024 • 47min
32. Beyond Gas: The Rise of Heat Pumps and Energy Efficiency (2/2)
In our latest episode, Host Michael Barnard and Jan Rosenow, European director for RAP, delved into the multifaceted world of heat pumps and their critical role in the energy transition (part 2/2). Here’s a brief summary of the insightful discussion: We kicked off by exploring the terminology and rising popularity of heat pumps in the media, highlighting their growing presence in publications and public discourse. The conversation then shifted to the marketing and design of heat pumps, emphasizing the need for improved aesthetics and customer experience to make them more appealing.Efficiency and demand reduction measures were a key focus, with discussions on the potential of insulation and draft proofing to reduce heat demand and enhance property efficiency. We also debated the priority of electrifying heat versus insulation, considering the impact of both strategies on energy use and climate change mitigation.Heat pumps' dual capability to provide heating and cooling was another highlight, particularly in the context of increasing heat waves. The episode also featured a meta-analysis on hydrogen for heating, revealing that hydrogen is not a scalable or efficient solution compared to alternatives.The future of gas grids was scrutinized, with discussions on the need for a managed transition away from gas and examples from France and the UK on the rising costs of gas grid maintenance. An orderly regulatory framework for decommissioning gas grids was deemed essential.We concluded on an optimistic note, drawing parallels to the adoption of electric vehicles and renewable energy, and expressing belief in innovation and private equity driving the energy transition.Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of these vital topics and the steps we can take towards a sustainable future! 🌱💡

Jul 17, 2024 • 45min
31. Decarbonizing Tomorrow: Tackling Energy and Heating Challenges (1/2)
In our latest episode, host Michael Barnard has the pleasure of speaking with Jan Rosenow, who shared incredible insights into energy policy and the critical steps needed for decarbonization. Here’s a brief overview of the key takeaways:Jan, with his strong background in geosciences and energy policy, highlighted the pivotal role of energy in global carbon emissions. He elaborated on the Regulatory Assistance Project’s (RAP) mission to aid policymakers and regulators in designing more effective energy policies across the US, Europe, China, and India. We delved into RAP's diverse funding sources, including philanthropy, government contracts, and research grants.A significant portion of our discussion focused on the intricate landscape of EU policy-making. Jan explained the complexities arising from the EU's 27 member states and the collaborative roles of the European Commission, Parliament, and Council. He also touched on the influence of Germany and France on EU energy policies and the ongoing impact of the UK's exit from the EU.The conversation took an interesting turn as we explored the historical and current hype around hydrogen as a decarbonization solution. Jan provided a critical analysis of hydrogen's realistic applications, the challenges it faces, and the institutional inertia that hampers policy innovation in this area.Finally, we addressed the crucial topic of decarbonizing building heat. With heating accounting for a significant portion of global carbon emissions, Jan emphasized the need to shift away from fossil fuels. We discussed promising alternatives like biomass, heat pumps, and district heating systems, while expressing skepticism about hydrogen’s viability as a heating solution.Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of these pressing energy issues and the paths we can take toward a sustainable future. Your feedback and thoughts are always welcome! 🌍💡

Jun 26, 2024 • 45min
30: Hot Topics: Sustainable Solutions for Industrial Heating (2/2)
In our latest podcast episode, host Michael Barnard and guest Paul Martin dove deep into innovative solutions for industrial heat. The conversation covered a wide range of topics, from the use of electrical and heat batteries to advancements in thermal storage, underscoring the potential benefits of storing energy as heat rather than relying solely on electricity.Paul Martin shared insights on various types of industrial heat, including cement clinkering and specialty high-temperature processes, highlighting the importance of efficient heat management. The discussion also touched on the potential of changing wire types for better energy transfer and the role of smart demand and storage solutions during peak energy periods.The episode explored cutting-edge heating technologies such as induction heating, thermolysis, and electrolysis, emphasizing their advantages over traditional combustion methods. Environmental considerations were a key focus, with a shift towards electric heating for sustainability and exploring alternatives to fossil fuels for high-temperature processes.Closing remarks from Michael Barnard and Paul Martin highlighted the value propositions and technological innovations discussed, endorsing consulting services for chemistry process engineering with Paul Martin at Spitfire Research. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of industrial heat and clean energy solutions.