
A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond
Tune in every other week for inspiring, joyful, and informative conversations on transforming ourselves, our communities, and the world, in the spirit of ancient Chinese medicine, spirituality, and philosophy. Separating fact from fiction, we aim to bring you medicine from China's distant past, translated here to meet YOUR needs today, in clinic and beyond.
I am your host, Dr. Sabine Wilms, medical historian, recovering university professor, and author and translator of more than a dozen books on the Chinese healing arts, from gynecology and pediatrics to medical ethics and materia medica, published by Happy Goat Productions. In addition to writing, I teach and mentor at https://www.imperialtutor.com/, about the roots of Chinese medicine and its larger cultural background. In addition, I will bring in insights from my checkered past as a biodynamic goat farmer and musician, all under the banner of my favorite phrase, “cosmic resonance,” a.k.a. the Chinese ideal of harmony between the three realms of Heaven, Earth, and Humanity. I really love to inspire people and spread around some good vibrations, which is what I aim to do in this podcast, with the assistance of some of my favorite clinical and academic colleagues, friends, and guides, like Leo Lok (our self-proclaimed "Purveyor of Multiple Perspective") and Dr. Brenda Hood, master physician and specialist in all things Daoism.
New episodes will generally drop twice a month, with a free one on the new moon and a bonus one for Imperial Tutor members on the full moon. Check out https://www.imperialtutor.com/membership for more information on my mentorship. Episodes will be roughly an hour long and will follow the format of what you may already be familiar with as the Imperial Tutor’s Tea Time Talks: loosely structured conversations that provide education, inspiration, and connection. If you want to be notified of new episodes, why don’t you subscribe to my newsletter at https://www.happygoatproductions.com/connect?
Here are our three main goals:
1. Bridge-building: We gather to explore the liminal sweet spot, in between Heaven and Earth, the distant past and the present moment, East and West, the clinic and the academy, the healer and the scholar, the discernible and the unfathomable, oral lineage and written text, and, ultimately, between Yin and Yang.
2. Collaboration: The treasure house of traditional Chinese medicine is bigger than any single person's expertise, no matter how vast. We actively pursue and embrace a diversity of opinions so that we can collectively deepen our understanding.
3. Authentic Transmission: Translation, from the past to the present, from Chinese to English, from texts to clinical application, etc., invariably involves an alteration and adaptation of the original message. How do we stay as true as possible to the insights expressed in the ancient Chinese texts while still making sense to our listeners? We invite you to consider the creative challenges of this task with us.
Potential future topics include: Meditation Sickness and Qigong Psychosis; The Difference Between Responsibility and Fault; Daoist and Confucian Perspectives on Humanity's Role Between Heaven and Earth; The Creation, Development, and Transmission of Medical Knowledge and the Dangers and Benefits of Lineage; Buddhist Perspectives on Reality and Expedient Means; The Wuwei Way; The Weasel and the Yak, and The Frog in the Well; Simple Questions: How to Read the Classics; The Cosmos in Six Lines: The Yijing as a Tool of Healing; Translation, Transmission, Transcendence, Transcreation; Pointing to the Moon: How to Name the Unnameable; Should Return and A Hundred Meetings: What's in a Name; The Fish’s Delight: The Limits of Sense Perception; Clear Talk: Creating Light in Dark Times; Reverberations of the Valley Spirit; Lotus in the Mud: Buddhism and Medicine...
Latest episodes

Oct 14, 2023 • 1h 15min
May Guanyin Ease Our Sorrow
This episode is a spontaneous response to the intense sorrow that I see so many of my friends in multiple places of the world experiencing right now, whether directly or indirectly. So I have invited my dear friend Leo Lok for a conversation about suffering, sorrow, Guanyin, compassion, and processing and transforming emotions. We invoke the healing power of religious maternal figures in both of our life histories, from the Virgen de Guadalupe in the American Southwest to the Bodhisattva Guanyin/Kannon all over East Asia, to the Virgin Mary in my native Bavaria. With their assistance, we explore what we each can do, as deeply sensitive human beings, with the sorrow that we are feeling, without either suppressing it on the one extreme, or drowning in it on the other. Ultimately, this is a conversation about being human and keeping your heart open, and about being of service in a world that makes that pretty darn difficult right now. May our conversation be helpful to you!Additional InformationRoshi Joan Halifax Meditation on Transforming Grief

Sep 15, 2023 • 52min
Truth East and West and in Between
How do we cultivate the ability to hold two opposite experiences of reality at the same time and thereby somehow get closer to the truth in between? How do we overcome the limitations of language in describing the ineffable while still appreciating its analytic function? If we can use language in communication with others like multiple fingers pointing at the moon, to literally “round out” all of our understanding, how do we handle alternate voices that may not even be pointing at the moon but at the sun or at birds flying by? And how is this issue relevant to the transmission of authentic but ever-changing Chinese medicine to the West, and to its biomedicalization? On a totally different note (sorry, can’t help it), what do you do when a person won’t stop singing? Is the Western mind different from the Eastern mind? Or are there different levels of truth and complexity to be found in any scientific and medical paradigm? And how do postmodernism, differential diagnosis, Daoist cultivation, authority, samadhi and Humpty Dumpty, and the “Six Warps” 六經 fit into this conversation? How do we express, cultivate, revise, and share our expertise with compassion rather than righteousness?That is the topic of today's episode of A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond, titled “Truth in East and West and in Between.” I am your host, Dr. Sabine Wilms, and I am joined today, as so often, by Leo Lok, resident Purveyor of Multiple Perspectives, and our resident Daoist sage Dr. Brenda Hood among the Seven Fools of the Bamboo Grove that make up the core of our Pebble in the Cosmic Pond team.Please remember to sign up for my newsletter to stay in touch. Also, please rate, review, and share this podcast wherever you can and check out the show notes if you want to learn more. And two more things: If you can’t wait until the next new moon for the next episode to drop, you can always become an Imperial Tutor member to listen to the exclusive “Imperial Tutorial” episodes that drop every full moon, in addition to all sorts of other benefits. And second, my two-year-long Triple Crown classical Chinese training program starts this September 14 with the Foundations course.Additional InformationDr. Wilms' free course: Introduction to Classical Chinese — Translating Chinese MedicineTriple Crown Training Program — Translating Chinese Medicine - Dr. Wilms' 2-year training program in classical Chinese, starting every two years in SeptemberSubscribe to my newsletter!Imperial Tutor Mentorship by Dr. WilmsHappy Goat Productions (Dr. Wilms' website)Leo Lok's courses - All Courses - Voices of Our Medical AncestorsSupport A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond

Aug 16, 2023 • 1h 2min
The Yellow Emperor's Broken Heart
What does it mean when the Yellow Emperor mourns and why might that matter to you? Does he “lord it over” his subjects and discuss medicine and needles because the exploitation of a healthy population yields more taxes? Or does he love and care for the people like a parent for their children and is heartbroken about their suffering? How do we read and translate a text like the Yellow Emperor’s Inner Classic that was compiled two thousand years ago but references figures from what was even then a mythological past of many centuries earlier? What tools do three experienced translators turn to when we get stuck and our “spidy sense” tells us that we are just not getting it? That our finger is no longer pointing at the moon but quite possibly at the sun? And how do we cultivate this spidy sense that alerts us that we may be misunderstanding a phrase or passage? A teaser: It involves a book called “Beware of Chicken”!The process and pitfalls through which we find meaning in the classical texts is what we are discussing in today’s episode of A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond, titled “The Yellow Emperor’s Broken Heart.” I am your host, Dr. Sabine Wilms, and I am joined once again by Leo Lok, self-proclaimed Purveyor of Multiple Perspectives, and Dr. Brenda Hood, our resident Daoist sage, among the Seven Fools of the Bamboo Grove that make up the core of our Pebble in the Cosmic Pond team.If we have inspired you and you want to learn more, you can join my Imperial Tutor mentorship to listen to the more clinically oriented and EVEN NERDIER Imperial Tutorial bonus episode, released on the full moon on 8/30, and also receive some related translations. Or you can explore learning classical Chinese at "translatingChinesemedicine.com" by signing up for my free "Introduction to Classical Chinese" course, my membership, or join the new cohort of my two-year-long Triple Crown intensive training program, which starts on September 14 with the Foundations course.Additional InformationDr. Wilms' free course: Introduction to Classical Chinese — Translating Chinese MedicineTriple Crown Training Program — Translating Chinese Medicine - Dr. Wilms' 2-year training program in classical Chinese, starting every two years in SeptemberSubscribe to my newsletter!Translating Chinese Medicine: Dr. Wilms' website for learning classical ChineseImperial Tutor Mentorship by Dr. WilmsLeo Lok's courses - All Courses - Voices of Our Medical AncestorsSupport A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond

Jul 17, 2023 • 56min
Food as Medicine
A quote from Sun Simiao (translation by Dr. Wilms):“When a person’s body is balanced and harmonious, you must merely nurture it well. Do not recklessly take medicinals, because the strength of medicinals assists only partially and causes the persons’ organ Qi to be imbalanced, so that they easily contract external trouble. All things that contain Qi provide food and thereby preserve life. Nevertheless, eating them unawares has the opposite effect. The common people use them daily without awareness, and so they hardly recognize when water and fire draw near... For this reason, food is able to expel evil and secure the internal organs, and to please the spirit and clear the will, by supplying blood and Qi. If you can use food to stabilize chronic illness, release emotions, and chase away disease, you can call yourself an outstanding practitioner. This is the special method of lengthening the years and eating for old age, and the utmost art of nurturing life.”Inspired by that quote, we look at the following questions: How can we use food as medicine? How do we nurture essence? What makes food nourishing? How can we help our patients, friends, and family decolonized their experience of embodiment by rediscovering their innate ability to sense what is good or bad for the body, and for their jīng 精 “essence” in particular? What does that mean for immigrants in the US who are craving the taste of home? Lastly, what are some of the dangers of popular diets and fads, in particular the Keto diet and elimination of carbohydrates, or of nutraceutical extracts? What is the difference between a carrot and a carrot, and between losing weight and losing jīng “essence”? What are some of the other magical aspects of flavor or wèi 味 in Chinese, which the Nèijīng already mentions as the key to supplementing jīng Essence? We have fun as we look at factors ranging from love and fermentation to refrigeration and round-up, and even Mexican Coca-Cola and, of course, German “Gummibärchen.” And as a special bonus, our conversation concludes with Z’ev’s favorite breakfast congee recipe so make sure you listen closely all the way to the end…For today’s episode of A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond, titled “Food as Medicine,” I am your host, Dr. Sabine Wilms, as usual supported by Leo Lok, our resident Purveyor of Multiple Perspectives among the Seven Fools of the Bamboo Grove. In addition, we are joined by Z’ev Rosenberg who you may be familiar with from Episode 2 of our podcast on the “True Medicine of Yangsheng.”If this has got you really interested, check out my follow-up conversation with Leo Lok in the Imperial Tutorial episode on "Jing and Wei: Essence and Flavor," exclusively produced for the members of my Imperial Tutor mentorship. Find out more at happygoatproductions.com/imperialtutor.Additional InformationThe True Medicine of Yangsheng - A Pebble in the Cosmic PondCan Kyoto's Buddhist Cuisine Teach us All to Eat Better? | SaveurWhat is Macrobiotics? | Ohsawa MacrobioticsSubscribe to my newsletter!Happy Goat Productions (Dr. Wilms' website)Leo Lok's courses - All Courses - Voices of Our Medical AncestorsZ'ev Rosenberg's websiteSupport A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond

Jun 18, 2023 • 1h 2min
Responsibility Versus Fault
As just one example of the dynamic polarities, and the sweet spot in between, that we so love in Chinese medicine, this episode explores the difference between responsibility and fault. How does our perspective shift when we consider placing or accepting responsibility as opposed to faulting ourselves or others in our attempts to explain outcomes that we do not like? Can we perhaps see responsibility as an opening to healing, to stepping forward into a better future, to repairing past damage, while fault keeps us mired in the past through toxic judgment and blame? What is the sweet spot between recognizing where there is room for improvement and slipping into a dead-end negativity? And what does any of this have to do with meditation, diet and lifestyle, karma, the spiritual marketplace, heavenly punishment, American litigiousness, Western and Eastern concepts of purity, and spilling hot water?This is the topic of today’s episode of A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond on “Responsibility Versus Fault.” Our host, Dr. Sabine Wilms, and Leo Lok, resident Purveyor of Multiple Perspectives among the Seven Fools of the Bamboo Grove, are joined by Dr. Brenda Hood and Josh Paynter, both of whom are practitioners of Chinese medicine and specialists in Daoism, Brenda with a PhD in Daoist philosophy and Josh as one of the eminent teachers of Daoism as a spiritual practice in the West.Additional InformationSubscribe to my newsletter!Imperial Tutor Mentorship by Dr. WilmsHappy Goat Productions (Dr. Wilms' website)Parting Clouds Daoist EducationJosh Paynter's websiteLeo Lok's courses - All Courses - Voices of Our Medical AncestorsSupport A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond

May 19, 2023 • 54min
The True Medicine of Yangsheng
Join Leo Lok and Z'ev Rosenberg as they discuss the practical applications of Chinese medicine in everyday life, embodiment of philosophical teachings in medical practice, treating cancer with Zhuangzi's wisdom, multicultural influences on health, importance of environmental harmony, and the role of the microbiome in health and disease.

Apr 20, 2023 • 3min
Pebble in the Cosmic Pond Trailer
This is just a short trailer to introduce you to our podcast.Here are some RESEARCH LINKS: Additional InformationSubscribe to my newsletter!Translating Chinese Medicine: Dr. Wilms' website for learning classical ChineseImperial Tutor Mentorship by Dr. WilmsHappy Goat Productions (Dr. Wilms' website)Leo Lok's courses - All Courses - Voices of Our Medical Ancestors

Apr 20, 2023 • 1h 7min
The Circle and the Kite
In this inaugural session of the podcast, my co-conspirator Leo Lok and I introduce our new podcast by comparing it to two activities: flying a kite and completing a circle. Find out how we use these two metaphors to explore different directions for future conversations, such as:the fertile relationship between oral lineage transmission and textual transmission, between Heaven and Earth, and between planting ourselves in solid ground and catching the wind of inspiration to fly high;the parallels between Buddhist transmission from India to China many centuries ago and the current transmission of Chinese medicine to the West;our vision of collaboration in the creative pursuit of academic and clinical knowledge;the importance of honoring the "voices of our medical ancestors" (in Leo's beautiful phrase); andthe challenges in translating and communicating what is ultimately the inexpressible wisdom of the ancient Chinese sages.As you can see, we have an endless repertoire of topics, to pursue and rope our wise friends into discussing with us!If you liked this episode, subscribe to my newsletter at https://www.happygoatproductions.com/connect to get notified of new releases (coming to you on every new moon) and other offerings by Dr. Sabine Wilms. To catch the biweekly bonus episodes released on each full moon for members of my Imperial Tutor mentorship, learn more at imperialtutor.com/membership.Learn more about Leo Lok's "Voices of our Medical Ancestors" on his THINKIFIC page or stay tuned for a future episode on "Meditation Sickness and Qigong Psychosis."Additional InformationSubscribe to my newsletter!Translating Chinese Medicine: Dr. Wilms' website for learning classical ChineseImperial Tutor Mentorship by Dr. WilmsHappy Goat Productions (Dr. Wilms' website)Leo Lok's courses - All Courses - Voices of Our Medical AncestorsSupport A Pebble in the Cosmic Pond

Apr 20, 2023 • 1min
Just a goofy bonus thing
... to make you laugh...