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A podcast about life, the universe, and everything, Everyone Is Right delivers cutting-edge perspectives and practices to help you thrive in a rapidly changing world. Because no one is smart enough to be wrong all the time.
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Apr 17, 2025 • 1h 12min
How Can DEI Survive? (And Should It?)
In this wide-ranging, courageous, and deeply developmental exploration, Keith Martin-Smith tackles one of the most polarizing topics in contemporary culture: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Tracing the historical evolution of DEI from its civil rights roots to its present-day institutional complexity, Keith examines how good intentions have often been overtaken by ideological rigidity, performative rituals, and empirical blind spots.
He breaks down the seven “deadly sins” of DEI — including its flattening of privilege, intolerance of dissent, and the shift from equal opportunity to enforced outcomes — while offering constructive, integral alternatives that retain the spirit of justice without sacrificing complexity, truth, or liberal values.
Drawing on developmental theory, Keith shows how DEI emerged from postmodern sensibilities but now operates largely through early-rational "expert" systems that enforce conformity rather than foster inclusion. He offers a vision of what DEI could look like if grounded in empathy, complexity, and anti-fragility — not coercion.
Whether you're a staunch supporter of DEI, a skeptical observer, or somewhere in between, this is a conversation designed to challenge, deepen, and hopefully transform your understanding of one of today’s most important and misunderstood social projects.

Apr 9, 2025 • 1h 30min
Terminal Crisis: The Economic World War Has Begun
The global system is breaking — and it’s not the first time.
In this gripping new episode of Big Picture Mind, Robb Smith unpacks what he calls a "Terminal Crisis"—a rare moment in history when the prevailing financial hegemon (today, the United States) loses its grip on a system that is demanding reconfiguration. It’s the fourth such rupture in 700 years, following the Genoese-Iberian empire (1627), the Dutch United Provinces (1781), and the British Empire (1931). And now, in 2025, it’s America’s turn.
What happens next? We enter a period of global economic anarchy—a high-stakes reordering of capital, power, and institutions. Robb traces how the system always adapts, pushing forward into a new "cycle of accumulation" that includes:
- wider geographic integration,
- more complex economic coordination,
- expanded populations and markets, and
- institutional upgrades that solve for the contradictions of the previous cycle.
In this urgent and far-reaching conversation, you'll learn:
- Why the U.S.–China rivalry is about far more than trade;
- How trade wars are also class wars;
- Why the global trust in American soft power has collapsed;
- What Keynes' abandoned proposal—the Bancor—has to do with Bitcoin and the next reserve currency;
- What it will take to build a new integrative pluralism out of the ashes of today's disorder.
Whether we descend into fractured blocs or step toward a new world order, one thing is clear: the system never loses — only hegemons do.

Apr 3, 2025 • 1h 34min
Polarization and the Algorithmic Undertow
Bruce Alderman joins Josh Leonard to explore one of the most insidious forces driving today’s cultural fragmentation: the "algorithmic undertow". Drawing from his recent white paper, Bruce introduces this powerful metaphor to describe the slow, invisible pull of digital systems — algorithms, platforms, attention economies — that subtly yet profoundly shape our beliefs, behaviors, and social worlds.
Using the lenses of Integral Metatheory and Critical Realism, Bruce and Josh unpack how algorithmically mediated environments are not only polarizing society, but also distorting our cognitive tools, creating isolated demirealities that feel whole but are structurally incomplete. Together they explore how these forces are eroding shared meaning, weakening democratic discourse, and transforming the very nature of human sense-making.
But this is not just a diagnosis—it’s also a call to action. Bruce lays out a four-quadrant framework for reclaiming depth in the digital age, offering concrete steps we can take as individuals, communities, and systems to restore wisdom, presence, and shared reality.
If you’ve ever felt like reality itself is fracturing—and you're looking for tools to reweave it—this conversation is essential.

Apr 2, 2025 • 1h 29min
The Shadow of Trump
In this powerful and often provocative dialogue, psychotherapist and developmental theorist Kim Barta joins Keith Martin-Smith for a deep dive into the psychological and developmental dynamics surrounding one of the most polarizing figures of our time: Donald Trump.
Drawing from decades of clinical experience and the STAGES developmental model, Kim outlines a rigorous three-part typology of shadow—projection, introjects, and split ego states—and shows how each of these can be activated in our political and cultural reactions. Whether you're vehemently opposed to Trump or a staunch supporter, this conversation invites you to pause, look inward, and ask: What part of this is my perception—and what part is my projection?
Because whether you love him or hate him, Trump functions as a kind of shadow magnet—someone onto whom we unconsciously project either our darkest disowned traits or our most idealized hopes. His presence on the political stage acts like a psychological Rorschach test, provoking intense reactions that can often reveal more about our internal landscape than they do about the man himself.
For those critical of Trump, Kim offers a challenging but compassionate perspective: if Trump “makes you crazy,” then you've already given away your power. Shadow work, he suggests, doesn't mean condoning harmful behavior—it means reclaiming the capacity to act from clarity rather than compulsion, from discernment rather than disturbance. And this matters—because if Trump truly is the existential threat many perceive him to be, then our resistance must come from grounded, skillful action rather than reactive turmoil. Otherwise, we risk undermining our own integrity, credibility, and capacity to influence meaningful change.
For those who support Trump, Kim extends the same invitation to self-inquiry. Many on the right experience a profound sense of betrayal, cultural marginalization, or disempowerment — and that pain often fuels projection just as powerfully as it does on the left. The goal here isn’t to invalidate anyone’s concerns, but to help distinguish between authentic values and reactive identity defense. Because if you truly believe in the principles Trump represents to you — whether it’s populism, sovereignty, or freedom — then embodying those principles with clarity and compassion will always be more persuasive than lashing out from a place of grievance or fear.
Which is why this is not a conversation about being "right" — it's a conversation about being whole.

Mar 27, 2025 • 1h 37min
A Grand Strategy for the Transformation Age
In this powerful second installment of Big Picture Mind, Robb Smith presents a sweeping yet grounded vision for the future of the integrative worldview — one that meets the historic demands of our moment and invites each of us into a shared project of planetary coherence.
We are living amidst a multi-system breakdown: geopolitical instability, techno-economic upheaval, ecological overshoot, a crisis of meaning, and the disintegration of shared epistemic ground. In the face of this metacrisis, Robb argues that a new era is dawning — the Transformation Age — and with it, the emergence of a post-postmodern, integrative worldview capable of offering wholeness, meaning, and emancipatory power.
But this worldview, while rich in insight and spiritual depth, remains fragmented, fringe, and institutionally underdeveloped. In this episode, Robb outlines a bold grand strategy to help the integrative movement grow into its world-historical responsibility. Drawing on insights from sociology, systems theory, and metatheory, he offers a call to action: it's time for a stage-three reintegration — a shift from the pluralistic differentiation of the last decade to a more coherent and collaborative movement, organized through a network-based logic.
You’ll hear Robb introduce:
- The 7 strategic vectors of the integrative movement’s evolution — including storytelling, tool-building, attention economics, and network coherence
- The need to shift from isolated genius and fragmented silos into a self-organizing worldview network
- Why leadership is our scarcest resource — and what kinds of leadership we now require
- A systems-level understanding of how civilizational reorganization occurs through worldview emergence
- The beginnings of a global collaboration protocol designed to align the many “nodes” of the meta-movement into shared strategic action
Joined by voices across the integrative landscape, this conversation moves beyond theory into praxis, exploring how integrative ideas can be translated into real-world transformation — in culture, politics, education, governance, and beyond.
Whether you're a long-time integral practitioner, a nodal leader in the liminal web, or someone newly drawn to the integrative vision, this episode invites you into a conversation about how we might truly rise to meet the transformation age — together.

Mar 13, 2025 • 1h 17min
Integral Edge: Men, Meaning, and the Rise of the New Right
From cultural confusion to political shifts, men today are caught in the crossfire of conflicting expectations. Are they supposed to be strong and assertive or soft and sensitive? Should they embrace traditional masculinity or rewrite the script entirely? And why are so many turning to right wing politics for answers?
In this provocative first episode of The Integral Edge, Keith Martin-Smith sits down with Jason Lange and Raymond Fismer to break down what’s really happening to men in the modern world. They explore why so many are feeling lost, how social, cultural, and economic changes have reshaped masculinity, and what a truly evolved man looks like in today’s world.
🔥 Are men being asked to hold an impossible polarity?
🔥 Is the rise of “strongman” leaders a reaction to cultural instability?
🔥 And what’s the real alternative to outdated masculinity?
This isn’t just another surface-level discussion — this is an integral look at the deeper forces shaping modern manhood. Buckle up.

Feb 6, 2025 • 1h 51min
IAM Spotlight: The Cultural Complexity Index
How do we measure the depth of human meaning-making across history, traditions, and intellectual paradigms? In this fascinating presentation, Brendan Graham Dempsey introduces his Cultural Complexity Index (CCI) initiative, a pioneering research project that empirically maps how humans structure knowledge, solve problems, and make sense of their world.
Utilizing the Lectical Scale, a highly refined framework for measuring hierarchical complexity, the project analyzes sacred and significant texts from different historical periods. Its early findings suggest fascinating correlations between social complexity and the evolution of meaning-making, while also challenging some common assumptions about cognitive development in different historical eras.
What do we mean by “culture”? While integral theory typically enacts “culture” as representing our collective interiors (LL), the CCI investigates a broader dimension — the complexity of symbolic information processing as a whole. Brendan’s use of the term aligns closely with Gregg Henriques’ description of “culture” as representing the human noosphere in general, the sphere of knowledge, symbolic representation, and individual sense-making, rather than the Lower-Left (LL) quadrant of Integral Theory, which focuses on relational, intersubjective, and cultural meaning-making. While the two are connected and often isomorphic with each other, they require distinct methodologies to be properly analyzed.
This is important because, as Brendan points out, he is not making claims about a given culture’s overall developmental center of gravity, but rather on the cognitive performance of certain individuals within a culture, as measured by the Lectical Scale.
Brendan’s presentation covers the theoretical foundations, core methodology, and preliminary results of the study — particularly its examination of texts from forager and archaic societies. In the ensuing discussion, participants explore crucial questions, such as:
- The origins of the CCI framework and how it measures individual cognitive complexity,
- How cognitive complexity relates to cultural evolution — and why they are not the same thing,
- The shift from mythic narratives to rational-scientific models—and how each stage builds upon the last,
- The hidden structures of meaning-making and how they shapes everything from politics to personal identity
- How the CCI helps dispel myths about cultural development, such as challenging the notion that early societies were incapable of producing later-stage artifacts or ideas, and clarifying the sequential-but-nonlinear nature of human evolution
For integral thinkers, the CCI aspires to provide both empirical validation and refinement of existing developmental models. While supporting key developmental insights, it also suggests nuanced updates to conventional correlations between social and cognitive complexity. Most importantly, the findings point toward practical applications — helping to frame new “stories of wholeness” that are adequate to the challenges of our time.
This research represents a significant step in bringing empirical rigor to cultural evolution theories while refining and deepening our understanding. By applying careful measurement and analysis, it enhances our understanding of both our developmental past and the challenges of constructing more complex and integrative meaning systems for the future.

Jan 26, 2025 • 1h 51min
The Big Picture Mind: What Every Elite is Missing
Welcome to the Transformation Age
We are living in one of the most extraordinary moments in human history. The world is shifting beneath our feet — politically, economically, technologically, ecologically, and spiritually. This new era is characterized by rapid, self-reinforcing transformations across all aspects of life. Unlike previous historical shifts, change itself has become the dominant force, creating a world that is increasingly difficult to navigate with traditional ways of thinking.
This is the mission of The Big Picture Mind — to cultivate a way of thinking that can navigate these vast changes, helping us make sense of complexity rather than being overwhelmed by it.
Why Big Picture Thinking?
Too often, our world is shaped by small ideologies masquerading as big pictures—fragmented views that fail to address the depth and interconnectedness of our crises. “Big picture” minds are those that can rise above these limitations, synthesizing knowledge across disciplines, paradigms, and perspectives.
Robb introduces the idea that knowledge has evolved through four key stages:
Disciplinary – Specialized fields of study (economics, psychology, physics, etc.).
Interdisciplinary – The blending of fields to generate new insights (e.g., behavioral economics).
Transdisciplinary – Actual big pictures in the 21st century, identifying patterns that connect across all knowledge.
Arch-Disciplinary – An emerging, speculative level that distills the core onto-epistemic primitives of the universe common to all big pictures.
To meet the demands of the Transformation Age, we must think more holographically, learning to see the interwoven nature of reality with greater clarity and wisdom.
The Five Crises Defining Our Time
Robb outlines five seismic shifts reshaping our world:
Ecological Transformation
We are transitioning from the Holocene to the Anthropocene, where human activity is the dominant force shaping the planet. Climate change, biodiversity loss, and ecological degradation are no longer distant threats—they are shaping our societies now.
The Rise of Hyperreality
Borrowing from philosopher Jean Baudrillard, Robb describes how we increasingly live in a world of symbols detached from reality—a world where a meme coin can represent political power, and narratives are engineered rather than discovered. This disconnect is creating a profound crisis of discernment.
The Meaning Crisis
Across the world, people are struggling with existential confusion, depression, and a loss of purpose. Without a credible story of wholeness, individuals feel unmoored, caught between outdated mythologies and an arid, reductionist modernism.
The Technological Singularity
AI is accelerating toward Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and beyond. If left unchecked, this could reify neo-feudal social structures, concentrating power among a small elite while diminishing social mobility. Governance systems are woefully unprepared for the scale of these disruptions.
The Breakdown of Global Governance
The world order that has existed since World War II—often referred to as Pax Americana—is fracturing. In its place, we see the return of realist imperialism, economic volatility, and social instability. Populism and reactionary authoritarianism are symptoms of this deeper structural unraveling.
The Metacrisis and the Integral Response
These crises do not exist in isolation — they form a “metacrisis”, an interlocking systemic breakdown of coherence at all levels of human life. This calls for a new kind of intelligence — one that is capable of integrating perspectives rather than getting lost in fragmentation.

Jan 8, 2025 • 14min
A View From Somewhere: Embracing Embodied Perspectives to Navigate Complexity
Watch the full 2-hour episode here:
https://integrallife.com/a-view-from-somewhere-an-introduction-to-metatheory/
Mark and Bruce invite us to move beyond the illusion of an all-encompassing, detached perspective to embrace the richness of our situated, embodied viewpoints. By exploring humanity's innate capacity for storytelling — whether through ancient myths, indigenous traditions, or modern narratives — it highlights the collaborative power of shared meaning-making in navigating today’s complex global challenges. As we grapple with "hyperobjects" like climate change and cultural fragmentation, Mark and Bruce advocate for cultivating the skills to hold multiple perspectives, engage dialogically, and co-create integrative stories that can anchor our shared humanity while addressing the immense problems we face.

Dec 8, 2024 • 10min
How the Drama Triangle Keeps You Stuck (and How to Break Free)
Watch the full episode here:
https://integrallife.com/breaking-the-cycle-drama-problem-solving-and-relational-mastery/
In this episode, Corey deVos and Dr. Keith Witt explore one of the most common yet misunderstood aspects of human interaction: the tension between drama and problem-solving. They dive deeply into the "Drama Triangle," a psychological framework that reveals how the roles of victim, rescuer, and persecutor trap us in cycles of dysfunction. These dynamics, while often personal, are also embedded in cultural systems, politics, and even therapy itself.
Drawing from integral theory, Keith explains how drama is a signal of relational disconnection and unmet needs, while problem-solving is a path of self-awareness, connection, and growth. They discuss how therapy provides a transformative space by balancing unconditional acceptance with clear expectations for change, helping clients shift from reactive drama to creative problem-solving. Through rich examples—including Keith’s personal stories and reflections—they illuminate the emotional and relational signals that help us recognize when we’re stuck in drama and how to move beyond it.
Key themes include:
- The power of self-awareness to shift from reactive drama to empowered problem-solving.
- How relational disconnection is often the first problem to solve in any relationship.
- The interplay of cultural narratives, such as green postmodernism, in amplifying cycles of victimhood and blame.
- Why integrating emotional connection (relating) with practical resolution (problem-solving) creates transformative relationships.
- The role of emotional signals, such as urgency or secrecy, in identifying drama dynamics.
Whether you’re navigating complex relationships, exploring personal growth, or grappling with cultural and systemic challenges, this episode offers practical insights and profound perspective shifts. Join Corey and Keith as they unpack the patterns that keep us stuck and the practices that help us grow.
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