Scratching the Surface
Jarrett Fuller
Scratching the Surface is a podcast about design, theory, and creative practice. Hosted by Jarrett Fuller, each episode features wide-ranging conversations with designers, architects, writers, academics, artists, and theorists about how design shapes culture. Previous guests include architecture critic Paul Goldberger, MoMA design curator Paola Antonelli, architect and OMA partner Reinier de Graaf, Pentagram partner Michael Bierut, RISD President Rosanne Somerson, writer Kurt Andersen, and designer Jessica Helfand. Featured in Architectural Digest, Dezeen, Curbed, and Eye. New episodes every other Wednesday.
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Jul 12, 2017 • 56min
35. Teal Triggs
Teal Triggs is an educator, historian, and designer. She is currently Associate Dean in the School of Communication at Royal College of Art in London and editor-in-chief of the design journal Communication Design. She's written extensively on the intersection of design and popular culture for publications like Eye, Visual Communication, and Design Issues. In this episode, Teal and I talk about her background in design and history, the role of research, and looking at design history beyond the canonical objects. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Jun 28, 2017 • 37min
34. Ellen Lupton
Ellen Lupton, co-director of MICA's MFA graphic design program and Senior Curator of Contemporary Design at Cooper Hewitt, shares her journey from art student to influential designer and author. She discusses evolving her writing to be more accessible for emerging designers and dives into the intersection of teaching, curating, and writing. Ellen highlights the need for design discourse to address social issues, emphasizes the importance of experience in design, and names influential thinkers who inspire her work. A captivating blend of theory and practice!

Jun 21, 2017 • 1h
33. Ian Bourland
To continue my series interviewing the professors from MICA who have helped shape this podcast, this week I talk to my critical theory professor Ian Bourland. In addition to teaching at MICA, Ian is an art historian and critic whose work focuses on the diaspora, photography, and the global contemporary. In this conversation, Ian and I talk about his background and interest in art, the role of the critic in the art world, what a new type of design criticism could look like, and how designers can think about their work critically within a larger cultural context. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Jun 14, 2017 • 1h
32. Abraham Burickson
In the second episode of my miniseries interviewing my professors and advisors from MICA, I talk to my writing professor, Abraham Burickson. In addition to teaching writing at MICA, Abe is also an architect, poet, and performance artist who runs Odyssey Works, a performance group that creates durational performances for audiences of one. In this conversation, Abe and I talk about his background the relationship between design, writing, and performance, design fictions, and creating experiences.

Jun 7, 2017 • 1h
31. Kristian Bjørnard
In a special mini-series for the month of June, I'll be interviewing a few of my professors at MICA who advised my thesis project and helped shape this podcast. First up is Kristian Bjørnard, a designer, educator, and sustainabilitist, who I met two years ago when I took his Interactive Design class. Kristian and I bonded over a shared love of design theory, reading, history. In this episode, Kristian and I talk about his background and how he got into design, bringing theory and criticism into the classroom, and his deep interested in sustainable graphic design and what that means for both the practitioner and the critic. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

May 31, 2017 • 59min
30. Abbott Miller
Abbott Miller is a designer, writer, and a partner at Pentagram where he leads a team designing identities, exhibitions, and books. Before Pentagram, Abbott ran a studio, Design Writing Research, with Ellen Lupton and wrote for publications like Eye, Print, and I.D. A monograph of his design and writing, called Design and Content, was published in 2014. In this conversation, Abbott and I talk about where his interest in critical theory came from and how he's worked to incorporate it into his design work, using writing to find new ways into design, and how his various interests have come together in his current work designing exhibitions at Pentagram. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

May 24, 2017 • 1h 1min
29. Emily Smith
Emily Smith is a designer, researcher, educator, and visual anthropologist based in Berlin. She is currently professor and Head of Communication Design at BTK University of Art and Design where she teaches a range of interdisciplinary, research-based design courses and lectures in design, fine art, anthropology, and architectural academic settings. In this episode, Emily and I talk about her journey through design to anthropology, how graphic design is like choreography, form as a container for ideas, and how research and anthropological processes can play a role in both practice and discourse. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

May 17, 2017 • 58min
28. Kenneth FitzGerald
Kenneth FitzGerald is a designer, writer, and educator. His writing has appeared in Emigre, Speak Up, Design Observer, and was collected in the 2010 book of essays, Volume. He's also on the founding board of AIGA's new academic journal, Dialectic, and steering committee member of the AIGA Design Educators Community. In this episode, Kenneth and I talk about his early writing for Emigre and how the design discourse has changed over the course of his career, the role of design criticism, and how he gets his students interested in writing and thinking critically about their work. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

May 10, 2017 • 49min
27. Peter Bil'ak
Peter Bil'ak is a designer, writer, type designer, and publisher based in the Netherlands. My introduction to Peter's work was through Dot Dot Dot, the magazine he co-founded and published with Stuart Bailey in the early 2000s and in this episode, we talk about the origins of that magazine as well as his new publication, Works That Work. We also talk about how he started writing and how that influences his work as a designer, shifting designing criticism from the perspective of the maker to that of the user, and the general representation of design magazines. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

May 3, 2017 • 1h
26. Molly Heintz
Molly Heintz is the chair of SVA's MA Design Research program and co-founder of the editorial consultancy Superscript. Prior to this, she studied classics and archeology and has worked at the architecture firms Gensler and Rockwell Group. In this episode, Molly and I talk about her journey from archeology to design, how to get more designers interested in criticism, writing for a general audience, and the goals of SVA's design criticism program. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.


