

Scratching the Surface
Jarrett Fuller
Scratching the Surface is a podcast about design, theory, and creative practice. Hosted by Jarrett Fuller, each episode features wide-ranging conversations with designers, architects, writers, academics, artists, and theorists about how design shapes culture. Previous guests include architecture critic Paul Goldberger, MoMA design curator Paola Antonelli, architect and OMA partner Reinier de Graaf, Pentagram partner Michael Bierut, RISD President Rosanne Somerson, writer Kurt Andersen, and designer Jessica Helfand. Featured in Architectural Digest, Dezeen, Curbed, and Eye. New episodes every other Wednesday.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Aug 2, 2017 • 1h 7min
38. Juliette Cezzar
Juliette Cezzar is a designer, writer, and educator. She's currently an Assistant Professor of Communication Design at the New School’s Parsons School of Design, where she was the Director of the BFA Communication Design and BFA Design & Technology programs from 2011–2014. She served as President of the board of directors of AIGA/NY from 2014–2016 and recently finished a sabbatical where she focused on the relationship between design and the transmission of cultural ideas. In this episode, Juliette and I talk about her first job working for Peter Eisenman, how writing and teaching influence her design practice, and how to write about design clearly and simply. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Jul 26, 2017 • 1h
37. Jack Self
Jack Self is an architect and writer based in London. He recently founded The Real Foundation, an architecture practice and curatorial institute. The Foundation's flagship publication, The Real Review is a quarterly magazine about architecture, material culture, and what it means to live today. In our conversation, Jack and I talk about his career as both architect and writer, the goals and ideas behind The Real Review, and the types of discourses we'd like to see around architecture and design. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Jul 19, 2017 • 1h
36. John Caserta
John Caserta is a designer and educator based in Providence, Rhode Island. He is an Associate Professor and former Department Head of the Graphic Design Department at The Rhode Island School of Design and founder of The Design Office, a work and project space for independent designers in downtown Providence. In this episode, John and I talk about the changes RISD's made in their undergraduate graphic design program, critical making, and his background in journalism and design. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Jul 12, 2017 • 56min
35. Teal Triggs
Teal Triggs is an educator, historian, and designer. She is currently Associate Dean in the School of Communication at Royal College of Art in London and editor-in-chief of the design journal Communication Design. She's written extensively on the intersection of design and popular culture for publications like Eye, Visual Communication, and Design Issues. In this episode, Teal and I talk about her background in design and history, the role of research, and looking at design history beyond the canonical objects. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Jun 28, 2017 • 37min
34. Ellen Lupton
In the final episode of my June series on my professors, I talk to the co-director of MICA's MFA graphic design program Ellen Lupton. In addition to her work at MICA, Ellen is the Senior Curator of Contemporary Design at Cooper Hewitt, and a prolific author of notable design books like Thinking with Type, Type on Screen, and Graphic Design: The New Basics. In our conversation, recorded a few days after graduation, I talk with Ellen about her own career as a designer, writer, curator, and educator, how she thinks about writing for emerging designers, and how the design discourse has changed over the course of her career. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Jun 21, 2017 • 1h
33. Ian Bourland
To continue my series interviewing the professors from MICA who have helped shape this podcast, this week I talk to my critical theory professor Ian Bourland. In addition to teaching at MICA, Ian is an art historian and critic whose work focuses on the diaspora, photography, and the global contemporary. In this conversation, Ian and I talk about his background and interest in art, the role of the critic in the art world, what a new type of design criticism could look like, and how designers can think about their work critically within a larger cultural context. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

Jun 14, 2017 • 1h
32. Abraham Burickson
In the second episode of my miniseries interviewing my professors and advisors from MICA, I talk to my writing professor, Abraham Burickson. In addition to teaching writing at MICA, Abe is also an architect, poet, and performance artist who runs Odyssey Works, a performance group that creates durational performances for audiences of one. In this conversation, Abe and I talk about his background the relationship between design, writing, and performance, design fictions, and creating experiences.

Jun 7, 2017 • 1h
31. Kristian Bjørnard
In a special mini-series for the month of June, I'll be interviewing a few of my professors at MICA who advised my thesis project and helped shape this podcast. First up is Kristian Bjørnard, a designer, educator, and sustainabilitist, who I met two years ago when I took his Interactive Design class. Kristian and I bonded over a shared love of design theory, reading, history. In this episode, Kristian and I talk about his background and how he got into design, bringing theory and criticism into the classroom, and his deep interested in sustainable graphic design and what that means for both the practitioner and the critic. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

May 31, 2017 • 59min
30. Abbott Miller
Abbott Miller is a designer, writer, and a partner at Pentagram where he leads a team designing identities, exhibitions, and books. Before Pentagram, Abbott ran a studio, Design Writing Research, with Ellen Lupton and wrote for publications like Eye, Print, and I.D. A monograph of his design and writing, called Design and Content, was published in 2014. In this conversation, Abbott and I talk about where his interest in critical theory came from and how he's worked to incorporate it into his design work, using writing to find new ways into design, and how his various interests have come together in his current work designing exhibitions at Pentagram. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.

May 24, 2017 • 1h 1min
29. Emily Smith
Emily Smith is a designer, researcher, educator, and visual anthropologist based in Berlin. She is currently professor and Head of Communication Design at BTK University of Art and Design where she teaches a range of interdisciplinary, research-based design courses and lectures in design, fine art, anthropology, and architectural academic settings. In this episode, Emily and I talk about her journey through design to anthropology, how graphic design is like choreography, form as a container for ideas, and how research and anthropological processes can play a role in both practice and discourse. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.