Drowned in Sound

NBC News' tech and culture reporter Kat Tenbarge has her finger firmly on the pulse of internet culture and the influencer economy. She honed her expertise at Insider through investigative forays into the complexities of digital fame. Her coverage is much more than product launches and squillion dollar deals, and touches upon MeToo, fandoms, exploring how internet mobs chill free speech, and so much more. In this episode, we explore what the music press can learn from technology journalism. Related links Read Kat's reporting on NBC here. Q&A about how Kat reported on the David Dobrik allegations for Insider Kat's piece about Angelina Jolie and Amber Heard Find Kat and her tweets about Evan Rachel Wood and others cases against Marilyn Manson here Reporting: 'Free Britney' organizers and influencers took over a bar, threw a drag brunch, and blasted Britney Spears in a weekend devoted to the pop star Follow Kat on Threads here Reporting: How Tory Lanez trial bloggers are shaping the conversation around Megan Thee Stallion Also mentioned on this podcast was the defunding Check My Ads and Stop Funding Hate Podcast recommendation: Offline by Crooked Media Episode Highlights: "The Influencer Economy": Sean and Kat unravel the fabric of online influence, pondering its implications on cultural consumption and the MeToo movement's resonance within this sphere. "Music and Memes": They delve into the curious interplay of internet culture and the music industry, where virality can be both a career catalyst and a capricious whirlwind. "Ethics in the Age of Exposure": The conversation takes a contemplative turn, probing the moral compass guiding journalists amidst the relentless glare of the digital age. "The Future of Influence": Kat shares her prognostications on the influencer culture's trajectory, contemplating its impact on the internet's burgeoning denizens. This podcast was produced, researched, and hosted by Sean Adams (@seaninsound), the founder of Drowned in Sound website (est. 2000). For more deep dives into cultural currents and explorations of the musical zeitgeist, tune in and subscribe to DiS' Substack. Quotes from this episode: “I’m telling the story of our downfall as it's happening” on reporting on the downfall of the media “Honestly, one of the most, like, mind bending things to watch someone like say to the public what they do and then have those people turn around and be like, he could never do this.” On Marilyn Manson “I think that reporting that takes a point of view is actually going to be what is successful” “This is a period that's going to redefine the next few centuries. "The way that technology has evolved in the past 15 years. is going to change the rest of history. It already has” “I worked at News websites that were dominated by the clicks and the traffic. And I recognized that in order to get people to click on something, there had to be conflict. This is how all storytelling, whether it's fiction or non fiction, works. You have to have conflict. There has to be a narrative. Um, if you're telling a story about a new product being launched, no one's going to click on that unless There's some element of this product launched and it's offensive “

Journalist and writer Emma Garland discusses the intersectionality of music journalism, challenges of pitching profiles, activism in music media, and the importance of grassroots artists. The conversation touches on the changing appetite for music journalism in the digital age, using humor to tackle weighty topics, and the struggle for artists to speak out about political issues. They also explore the significance of publications advocating for causes and the use of humor in addressing serious subjects in pop culture.

What's it really like to edit a music website? DIY Magazine co-founder Emma Swann joins DiS founder Sean Adams on season two of the Drowned in Sound podcast about the future of music journalism. We journey from the early days of the website to its current print & online format with a discussion that contrasts and compares DiS & DIY's stories, the thrills, the challenges, building a trusted voice, how brilliant the new Bully album is, some White Stripes fandom, a fair few mentions of Wolf Alice, red carpets, and much more. We explore DIY's origin story, the value of human curation versus algorithms, and whether print magazines could make a comeback. Emma shares her unique perspective from the front lines of music media. "Music journalism isn't just about reviews; it's about making connections, about showing the humanity behind every note." "Print magazines have their own magic; they offer a pause, a moment of engagement you won't find online." Learn more about Emma's work at DIY Magazine and follow on Twitter. Emma is a creative force, dabbling in photography, writing, podcasting, and web design. See Emma's photography website here. Check out the new Bully album they raved about.

Greg Cochrane, journalist and climate communicator, talks about his life-changing interview with musician ANOHNI, the intersection between climate change and culture, the future of journalism, and the importance of understanding the creative economy.

Yancey Strickler, co-founder of Kickstarter and writer specializing in music, dives into the evolving landscape of music journalism. He discusses the impact of crowdfunding on creativity and the transition from ad-supported models to reader-supported approaches. Yancey reflects on the essence of authentic artistic expression, citing examples like the Beastie Boys' Grand Royal magazine. He envisions a future where artists create their own media platforms, highlighting the importance of genuine connection in a rapidly changing digital age.

Laura Kelly, Culture Editor at The Big Issue, discusses the Venue Watch campaign, shining a light on grassroots music venues. They explore how music journalism can go beyond entertainment to activism. They also discuss the unique social mission of The Big Issue and using journalism as a force for good. Topics include the challenges facing venues, the role of grassroots music venues, the impact of campaigns like Venue Watch, and the importance of music journalism in connecting artists and the world.

Where is music journalism headed? Sean Adams (@seaninsound) introduces season* two of the Drowned in Sound podcast in the style of an editor's letter meets a meandering, unscripted voice memo. TL;DR? To mark 23 years of Drowned in Sound, I decided to embark on a series of interviews with TikTokkers, rock writers, tech reporters and more to try to figure out whether things could be headed. * = series?!

Everyone from Radiohead to Sugababes to industry insiders are raving about a new book by therapist and live music expert Tamsin Embleton. It's an extraordinary body of work entitled Touring and Mental Health: The Music Industry Manual, which includes contributions from a series of mental health experts providing insights and advice covering everything from breath-work to nutrition, and resilience to rest. The book contains interviews with people who live and work on the road, alongside musicians including Pixies, Pharoahe Monch, Nile Rodgers, Radiohead, Four Tet, Lauren from Chvrches, Will Young, Justin Hawkins from The Darkness, and many more. In this conversation with the author you'll learn more about the realities of the road, how touring with Nick Cave & Anna Calvi fed into the initial stages of this book, and why Live Nation has bought 3000 copies of it to put in dressing rooms. We discussed some of the topics in the book such as dressing room environments, dealing with the media and some simple changes the industry can make. This is what Nile Rodgers had to say about the book: “The life of a musical artist can be a magnificent thing when you’re on stage experiencing the enthusiasm and appreciation for your work and seeing first-hand the incredible impact it can have…. There are however another 22 and a half hours in the day when you are not performing. Being away from home and the watchful eye of your loved ones can be incredibly hard work mentally as you go around the world at a pace dictated by the tour. Having what is effectively a mental health wellness manual to keep yourself in check is a wonderful initiative.” Learn much more about the book over here touringmanual.com and you'll find @TamsinEmbleton on Twitter here. Host: Sean Adams (@seaninsound)

Our series of conversations about Artificial Intelligence and music continues with a look at the ethics and legal implications of these new forms of technology that inhales creativity and spits out creativity using everything that has been fed into it. And not everything has gone in with permission, let alone consent. At the spring 2023 budget, the UK government announced that they would be allowing AI firms to more easily access copyrighted material.... this seemed somewhat alarming to us as people who run a record label, manage musicians and care about the creative industries. Should be be worried?! We asked Dr Hayleigh Bosher, a leading expert on intellectual property to help us understand the law and the bigger philosophical issues with Artificial Intelligence technology using existing music to create new music. Dr Hayleigh Bosher (@BosherHayleigh) is the author of Copyright in the Music Industry, is a senior lecturer in Intellectual Property Law at Brunel University, and hosts the brilliant Who's Song Is It Anyway? podcast. Related Links Here's the 'Daddy's Car' Beatles AI track Listen to Who's Song Is it Anyway wherever you get your podcasts Hear more from Jeremy Hunt about the AI Sandbox Check out previous AI episodes with Endel and ChatGPT Prompt Generator David Boyle

In case it wasn't obvious, this a music podcast that hasn't had enough of experts and to mark International Women's Day 2023 we spoke to Vick Bain the founder of The F-List and President of ISM (the independent society of musicians), to her PhD research into inequality in the music industry. This episodes covers everything from her research into the Ivors songwriting awards having a pitiful amount of women winners to setting up the F List database of female+ musicians. In recent days, Vick Bain has appeared on the BBC's flagship programmes Woman's Hour and Newsnight, as well as spoken to The Guardian about what Glastonbury's Emily Eavis called a "pipeline problem" in trying to secure festival headliners that aren't male.  This is the first in a series of conversations about inequality and the future of the music industry. If you've been impacted by harassment within the music industry, visit WeAreMusic for a selection of links.  For more about Drowned in Sound, join our Substack newsletter and follow our founder and podcast host @seaninsound.