Next in Media

Next in Marketing spoke with Radha Subramanyam, President and Chief Research and Analytics Officer, CBS about the importance of data fidelity in TV research, and why neither census-based or panel based solutions have all the answers. For example, Subramanyam talked about how existing methodologies may be undercounting HIspanic American audiences and other demographics that still access TV over the air - while overstating just how many households are streaming first. Guest: Radha SubramanyamHost: Mike Shields

Next in Marketing spoke with two of the TV ad industry's leading advocates for change, Kelly Abcarian EVP, Measurement & Impact at NBCUniversal Media and Travis Scoles SVP, Advanced Advertising at Paramount. Both Abcarian and Scoles talked about how urgently brands need to shift their thinking when it comes to how they measure TV campaigns, and why legacy planning and modeling tools will soon be obsolete. Each executive also had a different take on whether marketers will ultimately be able to purchase TV ads based on guaranteed brand outcomes. Guests: Kelly Abcarian and Travis ScolesHost: Mike Shields

Next in Marketing spoke with Brad Feinberg, NA VP of Media and Consumer Engagement at Molson Coors about how the beverage giant is grappling with trying to reach younger (21+) drinkers who are turning away from not just traditional TV but even live sports. Feinberg urged the biggest players in TV to make it easier to reach more targeting audiences across streaming platforms by working together- rather than leaning on proprietary data solutions. Guest: Brad FeinbergHost: Mike Shields

Next in Marketing chatted with Doug Rozen CEO of dentsu Media in the Americas, about the notion that some of the major ad holding companies may need to come to agreement on new standards and definitions in order to move advanced TV advertising forward. Specifically, Rozen theorized that the buy side may need to match the efforts of OpenAP, a joint venture between NBCUniversal, Paramount and others - or even join them. In addition, Rozen talked about why he believes that once TV figures out currency, measuring attention will become the next battleground. Guest: Doug RozenHost: Mike Shields

Next in Marketing spoke with Meg Ciarallo VP of Brand and Consumer Marketing at Bolt about how the well-funded retail tech startup is taking a DTC strategy to television advertising, and why she has little interest in discussions over upfront rates, GRPs and currency wars. Guest: Meg CiaralloHost: Mike Shields

Next in Marketing spoke with Amy Ginsberg Chief Investment Officer at Havas Media Group about the state of the video ad market, and the ongoing challenges stemming from fragmentation. Ginsberg is hoping that measurement and buying become much simpler and less siloed - but has doubts about how quickly that will become a reality. In the meantime Ginsberg talked about why she remains a somewhat reluctant upfront participant. Guest: Amy GinsbergHost: Mike Shields

Ben Winkler, SVP of Agency Strategy at TripleLift, talked to Next in Marketing about how media buying agencies have been able to shake off seemingly lethal threats such as in-housing and procurement scrutiny while reasserting their relevance. The challenge now is pulling together enough talent to service brands, while also investing enough in differentiating technology. Guest: Ben WinklerHost: Mike Shields

Next in Marketing spoke with Luke Kigel, who is both VP, Walgreens Media & Head of Walgreens Advertising Group, which means he oversees Walgreens' push into selling ads, while also overseeing its spending as a big advertiser. Luke said that the company's new role as a seller is dramatically changing how it operates as a marketer, as it looks to treat TV far more like digital media. That's because, in his view, many of the traditional ways of planning and buying TV have be become "antithetical to the way people live their lives". Guest: Luke KigelHost: Mike Shields

Next in Marketing talked to Krystal Olivieri Global Chief Innovation Officer at GroupM & Choreograph, about her worry that the ad industry has created a 'panic' among brands angling for more first party data in a post-cookie future. And while she has high hopes for the metaverse if and when it arrives, she warns against marketers using new identifiers such as crypto wallets to target consumers. In the meantime, Olivieri is bullish on marketers employing different signals, including contextual and retail data, to better service consumers. Guest: Krystal OlivieriHost: Mike Shields

Next in Marketing spoke to IAB CEO David Cohen about the state of ad-supported streaming, and why he's pushing traditional TV advertisers to shift their mindsets when it comes to pricing strategy, measurement and what role the medium will play over time. Cohen also spoke about how many brands have been dragging their feet when it comes to preparing for massive changes in ad targeting, and what he thinks the prospects are for a national data privacy law. Guest: David CohenHost: Mike Shields