
Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry
Interviews from the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry. We cover topics like Investing, listings, buyers, brokerage, technology, entrepreneurship and so much more. Brought to you by KevinandFred.com
Latest episodes

May 16, 2019 • 7min
TRUST BUT VERIFY. Business Tip: Actions Speak Louder Than Words
✅ Its ok to trust people... and its better to verify 😉 Ok here is the deal... We've all read the posts, been in the meeting with someone or seen a person speaking from stage. It almost feels too good to be true... and damnit... I'm so sick of people being lied to... I hear things like : “Hey, I'm going to do this for you. or I'm going to do this for you. Yes, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we'll take care of that. This is coming and it's coming to in three to six months we'll have that for you in three to six months” When reality is, if we just look at their behavior and we look at their actions and what they have delivered, they haven't delivered a silver bullet, to anybody. Nobody has. And so , there is no person, there is no company out there that will ever deliver a silver bullet to you. If there was one available, you’d already have it.

May 15, 2019 • 35min
BONUS EPISODE: State of the Market
*Special Episode Alert* Today we have a special episode for you. This is episode something we call the State Of The Market. I've been doing this podcast weekly with my good friend Pat Hiban over on his podcast, Real Estate Rock Stars. Where once a week we talk about the news headlines, what's going on in the real estate industry that means something us as realtors and entrepreneurs, and brokerage owners. We just talk about the headlines, toss it back and forth and we have fun with it, keeping it light, yet informative. And I thought it'd be cool if I released one episode here on Kevin Fred's Next Level Podcast. As always I would love your feedback, if you like this format then head over to Pat Hiban’s Real Estate Rock Stars. You can catch all of the weekly episodes of State Of The Market

May 13, 2019 • 1h 24min
MARKETING. Interview: Luke Jaten
https://lukejaten.com/ https://www.facebook.com/LukeJaten.consulting/ My name is Luke Jaten. I love sales and marketing and advertising... but most of all direct response. I love practicing it. I love teaching it. I love consulting others on using it effectively. I love learning new ways to use it. I love reading about the history of it. I love talking about it. But back before I took a class on it during my senior year of high school... I couldn't even tell you what marketing was. A couple years later I answered a direct response ad about how to make money in mail order and by 1987 (at 19 years old) I was running full-page ads in magazines. Since then, I've used magazines, newspapers, tv, radio, direct mail, voice broadcasting, telemarketing (inbound and outbound), and all forms of internet advertising [Google, FB, CPA networks, native, email drops, etc] to market and sell... Nutritional supplements, software, personal development, sandwich franchises, business opportunities, conference events, real estate courses, books, alarm systems, web design, investments, credit repair services, music clubs, magazine subscriptions and lots more. In 2006 I started teaching my brand of marketing through home-study courses and online classes. Many of the folks I taught have gone on to create multi-million dollar direct response businesses selling all different kinds of things in all different kinds of markets. So now you know a little bit more about me (professionally at least) than you did.

May 9, 2019 • 7min
IS THE GRASS GREENER? Business Tip: Do the Work
Sometimes the grass is greener on the other side of the fence... But in my experience, it’s usually not. What most “grass” is missing is water... The grass is always greener where we water it.

May 6, 2019 • 57min
ELEVATE YOUR THINKING. Interview: Ronnie Doss
Ronnie Doss has spent over a decade building a successful career as a speaker, trainer, and author. For an episode of Kevin & Fred’s Next Level Podcast, I talked to Ronnie about his story and how he got to where he is today. You might have guessed that there’s no exact path to becoming a professional speaker. For Ronnie, it started when getting sick during junior year of college led him to take a medical leave of absence and discovering that he was ready to take his life in another direction. Later, after speaking at his father’s funeral, Ronnie was invited to speak at a church. From there, his career in motivating and inspiring others began. Things didn’t just fall into place. It took hard work, determination, and practice to build the skills that would set him apart from the competition. “Don’t complain about the results you get from the commitment you weren’t willing to make,” Ronnie says in the podcast, while sharing stories about the hours spent practicing talks, including some conversations with a crowd of stuffed animals. If you’ve never heard Ronnie speak in person, you’re missing out. He’s done leadership trainings and speaking engagements for Fortune 500 companies, nonprofits, top universities, and even NASA. There’s one “secret” that Ronnie says helps him connect no matter where his career takes him – being present with people by meeting them where they’re at. That’s a lesson that can be used in any industry. Click to visit Ronnie’s website for more information and to book him for your next event.

May 2, 2019 • 6min
COMPARISON KILLS. Business Tip: How Are You Viewing Others?
The single biggest thief of your joy is actually created by... The way you’re viewing others. We’ve had enough of seeing agents and lenders, hell, all people really, compare themselves to everyone else’s highlight reel. Just because someone is: ✅ on stage ✅ on a podcast ✅ on a video 😉 Doesn’t mean that they have more or are any better than you are. In this short episode we will show you how to see past all that “stuff” and just learn from others without having to play the comparison game.

Apr 30, 2019 • 6min
THE SECRET TO SUCCESS IS SIMPLE. Business Tip: Get Busy
If you’re not getting busy you’re not getting business. The secret to success in real estate is real simple. In this episode we cover how ✔️ “Getting busy” is the key ✔️ results don’t always come from where you expect them to.

Apr 29, 2019 • 53min
LIVE BIGGER. Interview: Sara Kalke
Sara Kalke is a real estate agent, coach, mom and adventurer from Edmonton, Alberta Canada. She is consistently in the top 3 individual agent in Edmonton-based RE/MAX offices 2018 year to date, in a highly challenging buyer's market. She closed 105 real estate transactions as an individual agent in 2017, and has 89 firm transactions in 2018 year to date, while showing her 4 horses and having a blast traveling with her husband and 5-year-old daughter, Zoë. As a real estate agent, she serves her clients through community initiatives, social marketing, and local knowledge. As a coach, she helps agents across North America find hope, clarity, and freedom in their business and lives. In her talks, she tells the story of her journey of grit and perseverance, business building with simple systems and efficiency, loss. From her dad’s lessons on work ethic, finding independence, the loss of her first daughter, building her own real estate business, and now helping people through coaching, she encourages audience members to truly live their best life - a life without regret, a life with joy, passion, and courage.

Apr 22, 2019 • 52min
BEING TRUE TO YOURSELF. Interview: Laurel Starks
Laurel Starks is a recognized court-appointed expert and trained neutral in family law cases involving real estate matters. Her focus on divorce-related real estate has led to over $150 million in sales volume throughout Southern California and is often regarded by her peers as the pioneer of the divorce real estate niche. Laurel has advised, consulted and testified in hundreds of divorce cases, facilitating the sale of real property, as well as providing fair market valuation reports and testimony thereto. She is a national speaker on topics pertaining to real estate in family law. Attorneys, judges and other legal professionals have come to rely on Laurel’s knowledge, judgment, integrity, as well as her ability to explain complex real estate matters to those affected by them. Education: A native of Central Florida, Ms. Starks was educated at The Trinity Preparatory School in Winter Park Undergraduate studies were completed at Stephens College in Columbia, Missouri and then at Whittier College in Whittier, California in Sociology and Political Science. May 2008 & Nov. 2014: Completed Divorce Mediation Training under the instruction of the legendary Forrest "Woody" Mosten, Esq. in Los Angeles December 2007: Completed Collaborative Divorce Team Training in Phoenix, AZ. and was the first practicing Real Estate Agent to attend CD Training Completed numerous real estate courses in various subject matter, attending multiple real estate seminars throughout the country Completed hundreds of hours of MCLE education programs pertaining to Family Law Professional Accomplishments: Author, The House Matters in Divorce (Publisher: Unhooked Books, 2016) A Guide for Homeowners Facing Divorce, #1 Amazon New Release - Family Law Category In 2016, Laurel Starks was recognized as an Inman Innovator by Inman News for her pioneering work in the divorce real estate field. In 2017, Laurel Starks was recognized as an Inman Influencer for her contributions to the real estate industry.

Apr 18, 2019 • 5min
IT'S A PROCESS, NOT AN EVENT. Business Tip: Do Activities Repeatedly to Get Your Desired Result
“It’s a process not an event” How many times have you treated a situation like it was an event only to later realize it was a process? I know for me, the first time this really hit home I was talking about prospecting. See, events are something we do once or twice, or every now and then... But a process... a process is something I do repeatedly so I continue to get my desired result... Check out this weeks video to dig deeper into this concept.