
Psychedelic Salon
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Dec 2, 2019 • 1h 7min
Podcast 634 – “The Birth of a New Humanity” – Part 3
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Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
Psychedelic researcher Sasha Shulgin in his lab
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Date this lecture was recorded: October 2, 1992.
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
"Matter is becoming a fairly uncomfortable dimension for us to be in, and I daresay matter would probably be highly relieved to have us just move on so that the rainforest, chipmunks, glaciers, and schooling salmon can go back to doing what they do best."
"There is no reason to expect rationality to be apprehensible."
"A little courage on the part of these almighty scientists would go a long way toward overwhelming the fearful strictures placed on them by politicians who are trying to maintain a social equilibrium that is fairly odious anyway."
"Mantras, with psychedelics, work like magic. Yoga, breath control, drumming, visualization, simple prayer, it all works amazingly well in the presence of psychedelics."
"Unfortunately, these non-psychedelic spiritual techniques are very quickly co-opted by the beady-eyed priests among us who then peddle it back to us with a menu of moral do's and don't s."
"I think the real spiritual frontier lies in the community. . . . We must, somehow, carry everyone with us."
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Nov 25, 2019 • 1h 7min
Podcast 633 – “The Man Who Invented Bicycle Day”
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Guest speaker: Tom Roberts
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Today's podcast features a conversation from last Monday's Live Salon with Thomas B. Roberts, Ph.D., who is a professor emeritus at Northern Illinois University. Tom not only began teaching the world's first university catalog-listed psychedelics course in 1981, he is also a founding member of MAPS, former visiting scientist at Johns Hopkins, editor of Spiritual Growth with Entheogens, and author of Psychedelic Horizons and The Psychedelic Future of the Mind. In this interview, Tom talks about his latest book, MindApps: Multistate Theory and Tools for Mind Design. However, you most likely know him as the man who created the first Bicycle Day celebration.
Date this lecture was recorded: November 18, 2019
[NOTE: The following quotations are by Tom Roberts.]
"I'm attempting to broaden the field [of psychedelics], and trying to get people who are interested in history and literature and philosophy interested in psychedelics."
"We can install ideas in our brain/mind complex, just as we install apps on our devices."
Thomas Roperts, Ph.D. Publications
Mindapps: Multistate Theory and Tools for Mind Design
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Nov 18, 2019 • 60min
Podcast 632 – “Rainforest Medicine”
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Guest speaker: Jonathon Miller Weisberger
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Date this lecture was recorded: October 28, 2019.
Today's podcast features a conversation that a few of my friends and I had with Jonathon Miller Weisberger, who is the founder of the Ocean Forest Ecolodge Retreat in Costa Rica. Jonathan is also the author of Rainforest Medicine: Preserving Indigenous Science and Biodiversity in the Upper Amazon. For almost 19 years he has also been facilitating plant medicine council gatherings in Costa Rica and Ecuador. Jonathon was born in Berkeley, raised in Ecuador, and began his training in the Amazon with Maestro Don Cesareo in the early 90s.
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Rainforest Medicine: Preserving Indigenous Science and Biodiversity in the Upper Amazon
Ocean Forest Ecolodge Retreat, Costa Rica
Rainforest Medicine Gatherings
The Difference between Ayahuasca and Yagé
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Nov 12, 2019 • 1h 29min
Podcast 631 – “Tim Scully and Orange Sunshine”
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Guest speaker: Tim Scully
Tim Scully & Nick Sandcirca 2015Photo: @headsnews
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Date this lecture was recorded: October 12, 2019.
[NOTE: All quotations are by Tim Scully.]
"The LSD experience doesn't really carry a message with it. It's an amplifier. And it's much more dependent on set and setting than I believed at first. I should have paid more attention to what people like Tim Leary and Ralph Metzner had been saying."
"It also slowly became clear, from observing my friends who'd taken a lot of acid, and some of whom were still behaving like assholes, that taking LSD was not a cure for being an asshole."
"I think that maybe Huxley might have been right. Huxley wanted to turn the world on from the top down."
"I still think it's much better, if you're going to take a substantial dose of a psychedelic, to do it in a quiet, calm, controlled environment, preferably with a very limited number of people present."
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Nov 4, 2019 • 1h 5min
Podcast 630 – “Sasha Shulgin’s Sidekicks” – 001
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Guest speakers: Tania and Greg Manning
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This lecture was recorded live in the salon on October 21, 2019.
Today's podcast features what I hope will be the first of many more visits with Tania and Greg Manning. In addition to assisting Sasha Shulgin during the final years of his life, they continue working with Ann Shulgin to preserve the laboratory and other effects of her's and Sasha's life and work. In this initial conversation with "Sasha's Sidekicks", we reminisce about the Shulgins' first Burning Man experience and the Mind States conferences. Additionally, Tania reads some of Sasha's unpublished writing in which he talks about his relationship with Albert Hofmann, including an interesting anecdote about their favorite drugs, and Greg gives an emotional description of the peaceful final day of Sasha's life.
Shulgin Research Institute
Sasha Shulgin's Joke Book
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Oct 28, 2019 • 31min
Podcast 629 – “The Rose Garden” 002
A Video Podcast
Today we feature our first video podcast from the Psychedelic Salon. Our normal audio podcast features the audio portion of this short documentary. However, the best way to experience this program is to watch the video version, which you may also download in various formats.
Free Leonard Pickard
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Guest speakers: David Luke, Ben Sessa, Mark McCloud, Julian Vayne, Michael Dupler, Gregory Sams, Carlo Rovelli, Nese Devenot, Shane Mauss, and Dr. David Nutt
These interviews were recorded in 2019.
In preparation of the audio edition of Leonard Pickard's The Rose of Paracelsus, Kat Lakey has traveled far and wide while gathering recordings from friends of Leonard's, all of whom have volunteered to read and record a chapter for this project. After meeting with some of these volunteers, Kat also recorded brief interviews with them. These interviews are presented in this video podcast. Some of these people, such as Nese Devenot, and Dr. David Nutt, have appeared before in the Psychedelic Salon. Also included in the interviews in today's podcast are Dr. Carlo Rovelli, David Luke, Ben Sessa, Mark McCloud, Julian Vayne, Gregory Sams, Shane Mauss, and attorney Michael Dupler. During the months ahead you will also hear each of them read one of the chapters from The Rose of Paracelsus.
In case you missed it, here is an overview of this project.
The Rose Garden (001) - Introduction
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Oct 21, 2019 • 1h 9min
Podcast 628 – “Investigations of Life from Origin to End”
Scientific researchers Bruce Damer and Charlie Grob discuss a wide range of topics in this podcast. They delve into the origins of life, virtual worlds, and avatars. They also explore the personal and professional journey of rewriting the rules about the origin of life. The speakers share their experiences communicating with ethereal entities and the significance of nonverbal knowing. They highlight the importance of community and mentorship, as well as their personal journeys into psychedelic research. Additionally, they discuss their experiences with regulatory agencies and express optimism for more open-mindedness in the younger generation.

Oct 15, 2019 • 1h 19min
Podcast 627 – “The Birth of a New Humanity” – Part 2
Terence McKenna, a psychedelic philosopher and speaker, talks about the mind-altering effects of DMT, the significance of community in building a caring society, and the potential of communicating with ancestors in the future. He also discusses the role of hallucinogens in evolution and the need for challenging doses to truly experience the benefits. McKenna emphasizes that true spirituality is rooted in concrete actions of compassion rather than drug use.

Oct 7, 2019 • 1h 9min
Podcast 626 – “The Birth of a New Humanity” – Part 1
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Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
Photo by Kyle Nieber on Unsplash
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[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
"Often in what I say there is, if not the fact of contradiction, then the appearance of contradiction. This is because, to my mind, life is complicated enough to admit of contradiction."
"The great thing about the rational program of science is, pushed far enough, it reveals the irrational foundations of nature. And that's really what the crisis in science now is."
"The human imagination, married to technology, has become a force too powerful to be unleashed within the fragile ecosystem of this planet. So we must either carry ourselves elsewhere, or the planet's homeostatic drive to preserve ordinary biology will eliminate us."
"The notion of intoxication is an incredibly culture-bound idea."
"What 'psychedelic' means to me is, in structural terms, a very small number of compounds all based on indoles. The indole hallucinogens are the true psychedelics."
"I prefer to believe that [mind is] coming from the outside. That mind is a field into which we dip the dipstick of observation, but it's not being generated in the neurons of the brain."
"We're living in a fool's paradise, trapped inside the assumptions of linear materialism and rationalism."
"I think that the greatest disservice that science has done to humankind is the marginalizing of our own importance."
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Sep 30, 2019 • 1h 19min
Podcast 625 – “Nature Loves Complexity”
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Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
Photo by Brandon Green on Unsplash
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Date this lecture was recorded: July 17, 1998.
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
"You really can't understand the future without the psychedelic experience. History seems to be becoming more and more psychedelic."
"We have all made too many sacrifices in the name of fitting ourselves into the culture we find around us through the circumstances of our destiny."
"[Culture is a] toxic environment that one needs to negotiate with great care."
"Domestication and civilization are curiously intertwined concepts."
"A society has to be incredibly confident of its first premises to allow its citizens to habitually and regularly explore altered states of consciousness."
"The entire Internet- computer-revolution rides on the backs of people who were taking LSD in the Sixties. People have expressed horror at this idea and then taken opinion polls at various professional gatherings, such as Sigraph and Comdex, and gatherings like that, and have this insight confirmed overwhelmingly. The entire post-1950s edifice of information transfer and replication technology was created by psychedelic people, and it's serving them very well, as well as the corporate elite."
"Only the expansive, the generous, the psychedelic are going to be left standing when all of this stuff is sorted out, if it is ever sorted out."
"The shaman is the one who is allowed to know how the culture is wired under the board. Everyone else stands out bathed in the glow of the big screen of cultural values, but the shaman are the people who actually understand the reasons for these performances, myths, and rituals."
"We are trying to build, not a class of shamans but a shamanic culture. In other words a culture, and I think there has never been a culture of this type on the planet, a culture that actually lived in the light of the fourth dimension."
"No human being has greater insight into your circumstance than you do."
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