

Psychedelic Salon
Lorenzo Hagerty
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Dec 31, 2019 • 1h 1min
Podcast 638 – “Replanting Ayahuasca”
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Guest speaker: Sophia Rokhlin
PROGRAM NOTES:
Date this lecture was recorded: December 16, 2019.
Today's podcast features a conversation that took place in the Live Salon a few weeks ago with Sohpia Rokhlin. Sophia is an author, speaker and nonprofit organizer from New York City. Through engaged botany and ecology, she bridges the worlds of indigenous ecological knowledge and Western science.
She holds a BA in anthropology and religious studies from The New School and a M.Sc. in Ecological Economics from the Institute of Environmental Science and Technology at the Autonomous University of Barcelona (ICTA-UAB). She is a Program Coordinator at the Chaikuni Institute and currently directs the sustainable ayahuasca cultivation program at the Temple of the Way of Light, a traditional plant medicine retreat center in the Peruvian Amazon. Sophia is also a co-author of When Plants Dream: Ayahuasca, Amazonian Shamanism and the Global Psychedelic Renaissance (Watkins, 2019) on the global spread of ayahuasca.
She has worked with several psychedelic harm-reduction programs such as KosmiCare, and serves as an advisor on the Ayahuasca Community Committee for the Chacruna Institute for Psychedelic Plant Medicines. She is currently based in Peru.
Sophia Rokhlin Website
Temple of the Way of Light
Chacruna Institute for Psychedelic Plant Medicines
Dates for upcoming Head Talks with Shane Mauss
A Comedian + Psychedelics + A Scientist = Head Talks
Shane Mauss Website
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Dec 24, 2019 • 2h
Podcast 637 – “Become the Bliss”
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Guest speaker: Ram Dass
Ram Dass & Lorenzocirca: 2001
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[NOTE: All quotations are by Ram Dass.]
"I was addicted to the experience of being high. I was not addicted to the chemicals, but just to the state. I had touched something so pure, and so fulfilling, that I had to keep going back. And I tried every method I knew to stay high."
"What is required on this trip is renunciation of attachment."
"Psychedelics show a possibility, but beyond that you still have a lot of stuff to do."
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Dec 17, 2019 • 1h 7min
Podcast 636 – “RAW’s Politics”
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Guest speaker: Robert Anton Wilson
PROGRAM NOTES:
Date this lecture was recorded: September 1987.
[NOTE: All quotations are by Robert Anton Wilson.]
"I used to be a Libertarian, but they had too many rules."
"And by 1968 a Gallup Poll showed that 70% of the population were against war. There's never been a time in the history of this country where 70% of the people opposed the government on a thing like war. So I regard LBJ as a pacifist president because he made pacifism so popular."
"Alan Watts said to me 20 years ago the chief error of academic historians is the belief that the Roman Empire fell. It never did. It still controls the Western World through the Vatican and the Mafia. Well, Alan was exaggerating. It doesn't control the Western World. It's just trying to."
"The American people are the most policed and governed and watched and observed and snooped upon people in the whole world."
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Cosmic Trigger I: Final Secret of the Illuminati
by Robert Anton Wilson
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Dec 10, 2019 • 41min
Podcast 635 – “The Birth of a New Humanity” – Part 4
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Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
Date this lecture was recorded: October 2, 1992.
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]>
"The horrible thing about UFO-people who claim contact is that the aliens they present to us are so incredible mundane. [They are] so much more mundane than what you would encounter on a DMT flash. They're just like the neighbors next door."
"With alien intelligence the trick is not to find it but to to recognize it when it's in front of you."
"Intelligence is a very slippery concept. Sometimes we can't even identify it in the person sitting next to us on the bus."
"I think the world is a lot stranger than we can suppose without invoking benevolent aliens who prefer vegetarian diets and who come from the stars. Why do they so fit our preconception of what they would be?"
"I think the best protection against unpleasant experiences on psychedelics is to do it with care and attention in environments that are safe and low on sensory input. In other words, you don't take it and go to a crowded singles bar, or even a rock 'n roll concert. If you have to combine psychedelics with rock 'n roll, do it with low doses."
"I am terrified of psychedelics. I never take them without a sense of sickening dread."
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Dec 2, 2019 • 1h 7min
Podcast 634 – “The Birth of a New Humanity” – Part 3
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Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
Psychedelic researcher Sasha Shulgin in his lab
PROGRAM NOTES:
Date this lecture was recorded: October 2, 1992.
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
"Matter is becoming a fairly uncomfortable dimension for us to be in, and I daresay matter would probably be highly relieved to have us just move on so that the rainforest, chipmunks, glaciers, and schooling salmon can go back to doing what they do best."
"There is no reason to expect rationality to be apprehensible."
"A little courage on the part of these almighty scientists would go a long way toward overwhelming the fearful strictures placed on them by politicians who are trying to maintain a social equilibrium that is fairly odious anyway."
"Mantras, with psychedelics, work like magic. Yoga, breath control, drumming, visualization, simple prayer, it all works amazingly well in the presence of psychedelics."
"Unfortunately, these non-psychedelic spiritual techniques are very quickly co-opted by the beady-eyed priests among us who then peddle it back to us with a menu of moral do's and don't s."
"I think the real spiritual frontier lies in the community. . . . We must, somehow, carry everyone with us."
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Nov 25, 2019 • 1h 7min
Podcast 633 – “The Man Who Invented Bicycle Day”
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Guest speaker: Tom Roberts
PROGRAM NOTES:
Today's podcast features a conversation from last Monday's Live Salon with Thomas B. Roberts, Ph.D., who is a professor emeritus at Northern Illinois University. Tom not only began teaching the world's first university catalog-listed psychedelics course in 1981, he is also a founding member of MAPS, former visiting scientist at Johns Hopkins, editor of Spiritual Growth with Entheogens, and author of Psychedelic Horizons and The Psychedelic Future of the Mind. In this interview, Tom talks about his latest book, MindApps: Multistate Theory and Tools for Mind Design. However, you most likely know him as the man who created the first Bicycle Day celebration.
Date this lecture was recorded: November 18, 2019
[NOTE: The following quotations are by Tom Roberts.]
"I'm attempting to broaden the field [of psychedelics], and trying to get people who are interested in history and literature and philosophy interested in psychedelics."
"We can install ideas in our brain/mind complex, just as we install apps on our devices."
Thomas Roperts, Ph.D. Publications
Mindapps: Multistate Theory and Tools for Mind Design
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Boohbah: Skipping Rope (Episode 1)
A visual trip - no drugs needed :-)
A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments
Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control
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Nov 18, 2019 • 60min
Podcast 632 – “Rainforest Medicine”
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Guest speaker: Jonathon Miller Weisberger
PROGRAM NOTES:
Date this lecture was recorded: October 28, 2019.
Today's podcast features a conversation that a few of my friends and I had with Jonathon Miller Weisberger, who is the founder of the Ocean Forest Ecolodge Retreat in Costa Rica. Jonathan is also the author of Rainforest Medicine: Preserving Indigenous Science and Biodiversity in the Upper Amazon. For almost 19 years he has also been facilitating plant medicine council gatherings in Costa Rica and Ecuador. Jonathon was born in Berkeley, raised in Ecuador, and began his training in the Amazon with Maestro Don Cesareo in the early 90s.
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Rainforest Medicine: Preserving Indigenous Science and Biodiversity in the Upper Amazon
Ocean Forest Ecolodge Retreat, Costa Rica
Rainforest Medicine Gatherings
The Difference between Ayahuasca and Yagé
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Nov 12, 2019 • 1h 29min
Podcast 631 – “Tim Scully and Orange Sunshine”
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Guest speaker: Tim Scully
Tim Scully & Nick Sandcirca 2015Photo: @headsnews
PROGRAM NOTES:
Date this lecture was recorded: October 12, 2019.
[NOTE: All quotations are by Tim Scully.]
"The LSD experience doesn't really carry a message with it. It's an amplifier. And it's much more dependent on set and setting than I believed at first. I should have paid more attention to what people like Tim Leary and Ralph Metzner had been saying."
"It also slowly became clear, from observing my friends who'd taken a lot of acid, and some of whom were still behaving like assholes, that taking LSD was not a cure for being an asshole."
"I think that maybe Huxley might have been right. Huxley wanted to turn the world on from the top down."
"I still think it's much better, if you're going to take a substantial dose of a psychedelic, to do it in a quiet, calm, controlled environment, preferably with a very limited number of people present."
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Tim Scully
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Nov 4, 2019 • 1h 5min
Podcast 630 – “Sasha Shulgin’s Sidekicks” – 001
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Guest speakers: Tania and Greg Manning
PROGRAM NOTES:
This lecture was recorded live in the salon on October 21, 2019.
Today's podcast features what I hope will be the first of many more visits with Tania and Greg Manning. In addition to assisting Sasha Shulgin during the final years of his life, they continue working with Ann Shulgin to preserve the laboratory and other effects of her's and Sasha's life and work. In this initial conversation with "Sasha's Sidekicks", we reminisce about the Shulgins' first Burning Man experience and the Mind States conferences. Additionally, Tania reads some of Sasha's unpublished writing in which he talks about his relationship with Albert Hofmann, including an interesting anecdote about their favorite drugs, and Greg gives an emotional description of the peaceful final day of Sasha's life.
Shulgin Research Institute
Sasha Shulgin's Joke Book
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Oct 28, 2019 • 31min
Podcast 629 – “The Rose Garden” 002
A Video Podcast
Today we feature our first video podcast from the Psychedelic Salon. Our normal audio podcast features the audio portion of this short documentary. However, the best way to experience this program is to watch the video version, which you may also download in various formats.
Free Leonard Pickard
PROGRAM NOTES:
Guest speakers: David Luke, Ben Sessa, Mark McCloud, Julian Vayne, Michael Dupler, Gregory Sams, Carlo Rovelli, Nese Devenot, Shane Mauss, and Dr. David Nutt
These interviews were recorded in 2019.
In preparation of the audio edition of Leonard Pickard's The Rose of Paracelsus, Kat Lakey has traveled far and wide while gathering recordings from friends of Leonard's, all of whom have volunteered to read and record a chapter for this project. After meeting with some of these volunteers, Kat also recorded brief interviews with them. These interviews are presented in this video podcast. Some of these people, such as Nese Devenot, and Dr. David Nutt, have appeared before in the Psychedelic Salon. Also included in the interviews in today's podcast are Dr. Carlo Rovelli, David Luke, Ben Sessa, Mark McCloud, Julian Vayne, Gregory Sams, Shane Mauss, and attorney Michael Dupler. During the months ahead you will also hear each of them read one of the chapters from The Rose of Paracelsus.
In case you missed it, here is an overview of this project.
The Rose Garden (001) - Introduction
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