Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Ram Dass Ram Dass & Lorenzocirca: 2001 PROGRAM NOTES: [NOTE: All quotations are by Ram Dass.] "I was addicted to the experience of being high. I was not addicted to the chemicals, but just to the state. I had touched something so pure, and so fulfilling, that I had to keep going back. And I tried every method I knew to stay high." "What is required on this trip is renunciation of attachment." "Psychedelics show a possibility, but beyond that you still have a lot of stuff to do." Download MP3 PCs – Right click, select option Macs – Ctrl-Click, select option Download free copies of Lorenzo's latest books