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Jun 24, 2009 • 1h 31min
Podcast 188 – “The Ethnobotany of Shamanism” Part 2
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
"One of the things that’s so striking about shamanism in the native context is the absence of mental illness."
"Every step into freedom contains within it the potential for greater bondage."
"This is what I talked about last night about the archaic revival as the notion of making a sharp left turn away from the momentum that the historical vehicle wants to follow."
"We now have no choice in the matter of business as usual. There will not, apparently, be business as usual."
"You either have a plan, or you are a part of somebody else’s plan."
"The psychedelic sets you at the beginning of the path, and then people do all kinds of things with it."
"We are reaping the fruits of ten thousand, fifty thousand years of sowing of the fields of mind. And it is being dropped into our laps for us to create human-machine interfacing, control of genetic material, redefinition of social reality, re engineering of languages, revisioning of the planetary ecology, all these things fall upon us."
"I’m fascinated by hallucinations. I mean, to me that is the sina qua non that you’re getting somewhere."
"If you actually look at the etymology of the word ‘hallucination’, what it’s come to mean in English is a delusion. But what it really means in the original language is to wander in the mind. That’s the meaning of ‘hallucination’, to wander in the mind."
"For unknown reasons, there is a tremendous concentration of psychoactive plants on the South American continent. The South American continent has more known hallucinogens than the rest of the planet combined."
"Patanjali specifically says that there are three paths to the goal of yoga. And they are, control of the breath, control of posture, and light-filled herbs. It says it right there. Stanza 6 of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali."
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Jun 17, 2009 • 1h 26min
Podcast 187 – “The Ethnobotany of Shamanism” Part 1
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.]
"Most software, I think, is written by freaks."
"What it [investigating psychedelics] really requires is a love of the peculiar, of the weird, the bizarre, the étrange, the freaky and unimaginable."
"Nature and the imagination seem to be the precursors to involvement in the psychedelic experience."
"DMT seems to argue, convincingly I might add, that the world is made entirely of something, for want of a better word, we would have to call magic."
"By manipulating queuing, by manipulating expectation, you can lead people to a fundamental confrontation, not only with themselves, but with the Other."
"What I’m talking about is actually is the Mystery of Being as existential fact. That there is something that haunts this world that can take apart and reduce every single one of us to a mixture of terror and ecstasy, fear and trembling. It is not an idea, that’s the primary thing to bear in mind. It’s an experience."
"Our theories are the weakest part of what we say. What we’re working from is the fact of an experience which we need to make sense of."
"What we call three dimensional space, and what we call the imagination actually have a contiguous and continuous transformation from one into the other, … and THIS is big news!"
"If you play the cultural game, it’s like playing only with clubs or something, or playing only with the red marked cards. You have to play with a full deck, and that includes this pre-linguistic surround in which we are embedded."
"Ultimately, I think, what the psychedelic experience may be is a higher topological manifold of temporality."
"The mind is the cutting edge of the evolving event system."
"I think the cybernetic matrix is a tremendous tool for feminizing, and radicalizing, and psychedelicizing the social matrix. I see computers as entirely feminine."
"The ‘person’ is not an interchangeable part. The ‘citizen’ is. … The person is harking back to a pre-print model. It’s what the hippies were."
"What people notice about [when they are on] LSD is either what’s right or wrong with themselves or how freaky the world is."
"It’s as important to be well informed in this area, if you’re going to do it, as it is to be well informed about procedures in skin diving and that sort of thing if you’re going to do that."
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The Oracle Gatherings, July 31-August 2, 2009
SCIENCE AND NONDUALITY CONFERENCE
October 21-25, 2009
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San Rafael, California

Jun 10, 2009 • 55min
Podcast 186 – “The Genesis Generation”
Guest speaker: Lorenzo
PROGRAM NOTES:
In today’s program there is no featured guest. Instead, Lorenzo presents the first chapter in his new novel, The Genesis Generation. In it, Lorenzo weaves the tale of a young man caught between two worlds, the world of corporate America and the world of the psychedelic community.
As the story unfolds, we learn of the transformation of a 29 year old "yuppie-geek" into an underground hero of the psychedelic community. The story begins in Palenque, Mexico and moves through Texas, Amsterdam, Viet Nam, and even to Burning Man.
Chapter Titles:
An Awakening in Palenque
Depression in Dallas
Amazement in Amsterdam
Confrontation in Viet Nam
Stranded in San Francisco
Ecstasy in Dallas
Midwest Memories
San Francisco Seminar
Caitlín’s Salon
Rindy’s Place
Burning Man
Weekend with Old Joe
Wizard’s Council
A West Coast Drive
Mountain Farewell
Freedom’s Promise
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Jun 3, 2009 • 1h 18min
Podcast 185 – “Shamanism and the Archaic Revival”
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotes below are by Terence McKenna.]
"People without plants are in a state of perpetual neurosis, a state of existential wanting."
"The numinous depth of the mystery that seems to have called us out of the animal mind is completely impenetrable to modern analysis."
"And I don’t mean this metaphorically. I want to be taken seriously as proposing that the ennui of modernity is the consequence of a disruptive symbiotic relationship between ourselves and vegetable nature."
"… of what is essentially a pathological personality pattern. The pattern of the omniscient, omnipresent, all-knowing, wrathful male deity, no one you would invite to your garden party."
"Technique [in taking entheogens] to me is a kind of a … I’m reluctant to talk about it because it seems so obvious to me what good technique is. I mean, you sit down, you shut up, and you pay attention is basically the good technique. And then the footnotes add; on an empty stomach, in a dark room, feeling comfortable."
"The situation that we now reside in is not one of seeking the answer, but facing the answer."
"I mean, we’re playing with half a deck as long as we tolerate that the Cardinals of government and science should dictate where human curiosity can legitimately send its attention and where it cannot. It’s essentially a preposterous situation. It is essentially a civil rights issue because what we’re talking about here is the repression of a religious sensibility In fact, not a religious sensibility, THE religious sensibility."
"Life lived in the absence of the psychedelic experience that primordial shamanism is based on is life trivialized, life denied, life enslaved to the ego."
"Think about our dilemma on this planet. If the expansion of consciousness does not loom large in the human future, what kind of future is it going to be?"
"The ‘public’ has no history, has no future, lives in a golden moment created by credit, which binds them ineluctably to a fascist system that is never criticized. This is the ultimate consequence of having broken off this symbiotic relationship with the vegetable, feminine, maternal matrix of the planet."
"How can we know who is the other until we know who is the self?"
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May 20, 2009 • 1h 2min
Podcast 184 – “The Boundaries of the Human Mind”
Guest speaker: Bruce Damer
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotes below are by Bruce Damer.]
"What Damasio is showing is that people who, in the lab, get a huge amount of cognitive stimulus all the time start to have no access to the emotional part [of themselves] at all. They can’t store to it, and they can’t retrieve from it. They become what he calls emotionally neutral."
"So if ANY crisis arises you have the wrong people [in charge], probably, because the things that put them there, and the constituencies that wanted them there, create a person who is incapable of handling a real crisis."
"If you want a future, you have to take charge of your own thoughts."
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A Gigantic Unplanned Experiment … on You! by Bruce Damer
DigitalSpace’s Educational Spacewalk Simulation for
NASA’s upcoming Hubble Servicing Mission
The DigiBarn Computer Museum
Bruce Damer’s Personal Web Site
Mind States Conferences

May 7, 2009 • 1h 3min
Podcast 183 – “What Are Humans For?”
Guest speaker: Dr. Timothy Leary
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations below are by Timothy Leary.]
"The people who were teaching us about consciousness-expanding drugs were people like Aldous Huxley, Alan Watts, even Henry Luce, the respectable conservative founder of ‘Time’ magazine. There was a large group of thoughtful people who told us that the doors of perception were going to open and an avalanche of change would happen."
"Harvard is there to train Ivy Leaguers to go to Washington and Wall Street and keep the wasp establishment going. They’re not supposed to be turning out new Buddhas and a new brand of science fiction neuronaughts."
"The history of America is the history of those of us that belong to this wonderful brotherhood and sisterhood of avant-garde inner voyagers. We believe that we’re the American tradition. And so we really weren’t that surprised when the thing exploded in the Sixties. That’s what we’d signed up for."
"I personally now feel that the concept of generation, the generation you belong to, is one of the most important things in your life, because you’re going to be swimming like a school of fish in this school of your own generation."
"It’s so simple, too. If you want to change, it’s geography, just move to the place different people hang out, and listen."
"I see very clearly that the age of the people you hang out with determines your age. … Generations are temporal units, and you can jump generations, you can migrate. And how do you migrate from one generation to another? It’s time travel, just hang out with people of different ages."
"What are humans for? We’re not here to fight Communism. We’re not here to fight for a job. If we don’t do that any more, what are we for? Well the answer to that is, the function of the human being is to evolve, to grow, to become more intelligent, to become a more advanced form of our species."
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Support the Stolaroff Collection
The Timothy Leary Archives
The Media Squat (radio program with Douglas Rushkoff)
The Art of Steven Rooke
"Lunch with the Shulgins" (video)

Apr 28, 2009 • 1h 5min
Podcast 182 – “The Spark of Divine Creativity”
Guest speaker: Missy & Andre Nobels, Mateo Pallamary
PROGRAM NOTES:
MATEO: "Here’s the thing about divine creativity, and that really pegs it because creation is divine, and we are creators. And when we tap into that cosmic oneness and unity, spirit comes through, and we give ourselves up to spirit and allow spirit to move us instead of trying to move spirit."
MATEO: "So, when you tap into divinity the ego basically disappears, and you’re in the sweet spot, you’re in the zone, and then you’re listening to yourself, and you’re blowing yourself away with what’s coming through, because it’s beyond you. It’s beyond us. It’s spirit talking."
MATEO: "Time is just a thing that the mind does to try to make sense out of reality."
MISSY: "I know it’s heart, for me it’s heart, whatever that is. And because the heart’s in the body, if I get in my body I can feel my heart. And I let my heart move my body so that’s my way of finding, or taping into that creative divine, or that spark."
ANDRE: "You get to that point where the ego can just rest because you know your body has it, you know your being can take care of the physicality, the mechanics of whatever you’re doing, and then, once I think you can rest in yourself, in that place, then there’s space for that divine to come through."
ANDRE: "This pocket we’re talking about, this divine spark, it’s not something you can hold onto. The tendency when you fall in love is you want to hold onto that beloved, to grasp and try to posses. And in a sense, what you do is you kill that spark. Especially when you’re doing something delicate and creative, you have to be really in the moment, because the moment you try to hold onto it, it’s gone."
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Apr 25, 2009 • 57min
Podcast 181 – “What Science Forgot” Q&A Session
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
This is the Question and Answer session following the talk heard in the previous podcast. In it, Terence answers questions from the audience, such as, "Can you talk about the relationship of advanced mathematics to modeling of consciousness in layman’s terms?"
[NOTE: All quotations below are by Terence McKenna.]
"It doesn’t matter whether it’s the birth and death of your hope, or the rise and fall of the Assyrian Empire, or the evolution of the Pacific Ocean, processes always occur in the same way. And this is why there is congruence between the mental world of human beings and the world of abstract mathematics and the world of nature. These things are as it were simply different levels of condensation of the same universal stuff."
"Thinking means something. It’s not just something we do. It means something. It means something because there is sufficient freedom within the human system to be both right or wrong."
QUESTION: What is the nature of magic, or what is magic or the wonder it invokes?
"Magic is not a trivial issue at all."
"If you live long enough, I think you discover what we imagine and what actually is are very close to the same thing."
"The mind is somehow a co-creator in the process of reality, through acts of language. And language is very, very mysterious. I mean, it is true magic."
"All so-called primitive people know that the world is made up of language. That you sing it into existence. That what you say it is is what it is. That is it maintained in existence by an act of rational apprehension."
"Mind is necessary for the world to undergo the formality of existing. This is what quantum physics teaches."
"Modern biology is still afflicted with physics envy. Meanwhile, physics has gone on to a realm of such exotic and surreal uncertainty that it’s, at this point, to the left of psychology in the precision of its metaphors."
QUESTION: Why don’t some people get high when they take psychedelics?
"The way to do psychedelics is, I believe, at higher doses than most people are comfortable with and rarely, and with great attention to set and setting."
"But these boundary-dissolving hallucinogens that give you a sense of unity with your fellow man and nature are somehow forbidden. This is an outrage. It’s a sign of cultural immaturity, and the fact that we tolerate it is a sign that we are living in a society as oppressed as any society in the past."
"We are caged by our cultural programing, and this is the most powerful imprisoning factor in our lives."
"If we could train ourselves to simply remember our dreams, psychedelics would become obsolete."
"Culture is a mass hallucination, and when you step outside the mass hallucination you see it for what it is worth."
"Language is partially the key here. We cannot move into a reality we cannot describe. If we can’t describe a world, we can’t be there."
"As long as we let the establishment set the language agenda we will be imprisoned in the tiny, rather pedestrian, world of consumerism and schloko values that the establishment has prepared for us."
"The way I think of these psychedelics are a different way, is that they are catalysts for the imagination."
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Apr 15, 2009 • 1h 14min
Podcast 180 – “What Science Forgot”
Guest speaker: Terence McKenna
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All quotations below are by Terence McKenna.]
"Is there any permission to hope? More specifically, is there any permission for smart people to hope? I mean it’s easy to hope if you’re stupid, but is there any basis for intelligent people to hope? … I think so."
"I live in an aura of hope because I live in a twilight world of my own self-generated, cannabinated fantasy, and I forget that not everyone is so fortunate."
"What I’ve observed is that nature builds on previously established levels of complexity."
"An added wrinkle [to the story of ever-increasing complexity] is that each advancement into complexity, into novelty, proceeds more quickly than the stage that preceded it. This is very profound."
"I say, if in fact novelty is the name of the game. If in fact the conservation and complexification of novelty is what the universe is striving for, then suddenly our own human enterprise, previously marginalized, takes on an immense new importance. We are apparently players in the cosmic drama. And in this particular act of the cosmic drama we hold a very central role. We are at the pinnacle of the expression of the complexification in the animal world."
"Since the rise of Western monotheism, the human experience has been marginalized. We have been told that we were unimportant in the cosmic drama. But we now know from the feedback that we’re getting from the impact of human culture on the Earth that we are a major factor shaping the temperatures of the oceans, the composition of the atmosphere …"
"History is a state of incredible destabilization. It’s a chaostrophy in the process of happening."
"It’s very important to science to eliminate from its thinking any suspicion that this eschaton might exist. Because if it were to exist it would impart to reality a purpose. … Science is incredibly hostile toward the idea of purpose."
"Reality is accelerating toward an unimaginable Omega point."
"So why hope? Isn’t it just a runaway train out of control? I don’t think so. I think the out-of-control-ness is the most hopeful thing about it. After all, whose control is it out of? You and I never controlled it in the first place. Why are we anxious about the fact that it’s out of control. I think that if it’s out of control then our side is winning."
"We represent a kind of concrescence of universal intent. We’re not mere spectators, or a cosmic accident, or some sideshow, or the Greek chorus to the main event. The human experience IS the main event."
"In our species complexity has turned inward upon itself. And in our species time has accelerated. Time has left the gentle ebb and flow of gene transfer and adaptation that characterizes biological evolution, and instead historical time is generated."
"It is impossible to conceive of another thousand years of human history. History then is ending. History is a kind of gestation process. It’s a kind of metamorphosis. It’s an episode in the life of a species."
"Culture is merely clothing on the human experience."
"The body is the nexus of the mystery of life, and our culture takes us out of the body."
"More and more, the message that people are getting as they avail themselves of the psychedelic experience is that it is not a journey into the human unconscious, or into the ghost bardos of our chaotic civilization. It’s a journey into the presence of the Gaian Mind."
"We now hold, through the possession of these psychedelics, catalysts for the human imagination of sufficient power that if we use them we can deconstruct the lethal vehicle that is carrying us toward the brink of Apocalypse We can deconstruct that vehicle and redesign it into a kind of starship that would carry us and our children out into the broad starry galaxy we know to be awaiting us."
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Apr 9, 2009 • 1h 14min
Podcast 179 – “Timothy Leary at Cornell – 1989″
Guest speaker: Dr. Timothy Leary
PROGRAM NOTES:
[NOTE: All of the following quotations are by Timothy Leary.]
"The first very dangerous side effect of psychedelic drugs is long term memory gain. And the second is short term memory loss. And I forget the third."
"The time has come for us as a species, and for you all as individuals, to move into the post industrial society."
"We all create our own reality."
[Paraphrasing John Paul Sartre] "You can make up all the abstract gods or leaders that you want, and theories and so forth, but you’re just whistling in the dark. The existential facts of the matter are that you are in the nose cone of your own time ship, hurtling at the speed of light into a dark future, and you don’t have a clue or navigational map. And if you’re scared, well, grow up."
"The sillier a religion is the more passionately fanatic people will defend it, if you know what I mean. So you’d better be careful when you buy a god, because it can get you in a lot of shit."
"Quantum physics is all about loosening up your tight structure."
"Now think about jazz. What’s jazz about? Jazz is about singularity, about creating your own rhythm, improvising, doing your own riffs, innovating. Hey, that’s exactly what quantum physics is all about."
"The fact that you become an individual, and think singular thoughts, doesn’t mean you can’t be understood."
"The function of the government is simply to protect us, not from ourselves, but protect us from bad [impure] products."
"No matter how crazy, fucked-up an individual can be, he can’t be as fucked up as the Catholic Church."
"You know that collectivity lowers intelligence. No matter how dumb the individual is, there’s no dumb individual that could have caused World War II."
"Colleges, universities, are tax supported, state supported, or financed by wealthy individuals and trusts to prepare you to find your niche, your spot, your cog in the great industrial machine. This is a factory."
"Don’t decide to major until after you graduate. When you get 50 years old, select your major."
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