Agile and Project Management - DrunkenPM Radio
Dave Prior, Agile Trainer, Consultant and Project Manager
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Dec 7, 2016 • 41min
Rapid Start PMO with Philip Diab
PMI Fellow and former PMI Chair Philip Diab has developed a new program to help organizations get PMO’s up and running quickly. RapidStart PMO is an outcome driven approach that creates deliverables as it iterates towards understanding how the PMO can best serve the organization. And despite his stature in the PM community, Philip continues to be a practitioner, helping organizations get better at getting work done. He’s deeply wise and he’s has been kind enough to act as Yoda to me on numerous occasions throughout my career. In this interview we discuss the profound impact volunteerism can have on your PM career, keys to success for PMOs and common mistakes many organizations make when starting up (or maintaining) PMOs.
Show Notes
00:00 Podcast begins - Dave introduces Philip
00:39 Philip talks a little about his background in Project Management and with PMI
01:22 How volunteering can help your career
04:30 Volunteering takes a lot of time and energy, but it gives back even more
06:20 PMO’s - How Philip got involved in working with PMO’s, what he learned from it and why he is so passionate about it
07:27 Yes - PMO’s are very exciting… but you have to be pretty deep with the PM geek
07:50 The work Philip has been doing to help organizations that want to start PMO’s to get them up and running quickly
08:43 The PMO as a service organization that helps projects succeed (as opposed to simply providing an auditor function
10:39 Philip’s explains S.E.R.V.E. - his five strategic principles for PMO’s
13:41 The types of organization Philip works with and where they are in the PMO adoption lifecycle
15:41 A story about one of Philip’s favorite PMO projects
16:52 Philip’s optimism around his work “There is no room for cynicism in project management.”
18:05 What makes PMs successful and when the work moves beyond being about the project
19:01 Philip’s PM Origin Story - How to get the job when you have no experience and what happens afterwards
20:41 Giving yourself empowerment because of your knowledge and experience
21:30 “You can take charge and people will let you if what you are doing is the right thing for the organization.”
22:00 Why Rapid Start PMO exists and how it can help you build (or rebuild) your PMO
24:33 A step-by-step deliverable focused program
25:14 The main differentiator that that leads to success and five critical factors you need
27:05 Passion for the project and being the champion who motivates the team is critical, but what if the project you get is “just a pile of garbage” (Philip offers Dave some advice)
29:43 A strange definition of optimism
30:55 Making room in the PMO for experimentation
32:24 Common missteps made by organizations trying to start PMOs
35:22 What to do when you can’t don’t know (or can’t remember) why you have a PMO
37:37 How the course can help existing PMO’s
39:08 How to learn more about the course or get in touch with Philip
39:35 Philip’s new podcast “The Project Management Debate Podcast
You can learn more about Rapid Start PMO here: http://rapidstartpmo.com/p/rapidstartpmo
You can reach Philip via his website: http://philipdiab.com/
Or his LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipdiab
And you can find “The Project Management Debate Podcast” on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pm-debate-podcast/id1170807549?mt=2 or Soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/user-96614158
Nov 22, 2016 • 40min
Being Agile vs. Doing Agile w/Jessie Shternshus and Paul Hammond
In this podcast, Jessie Shternshus , Paul Hammond and I take a shot at addressing the question of whether organizations have become so focused by the need to “do” Agile that they may have lost the ability to actually “be” Agile. During the conversation we touch on a number of the key challenges organizations are facing and how these challenges are impacting individuals at the team level.
Show Notes
00:45 Introduction to Jessie and Paul
02:00 The Topic(s): Do we need to return to a more simple version of it so that people can better understand/internalize the fundamental intent behind it and not simply get lost in dogma and going thru the motions? How do we help “them” figure out the “why”?
06:30 Does leadership need to deeply understand Agile to help support transition to Agile or can the organization succeed if they just want to “do Agile”?
08:48 Changing the conversation to help people approach Agile with a more open mindset?
10:48 Mapping organizational values to Agile Manifesto values
11:30 How to create hope (that things can improve) at an organization?
14:20 Taking the option to “Make a choice”
16:37 Advice for getting “Buy In”
18:03 How do we unfreeze the frozen middle?
20:08 Should leadership demonstrate vulnerability when trying to transition to Agile? (crickets)
20:46 How do I help my company become a place innovative, agile people will want to work?
22:47 You can’t put a band-aid on culture
23:56 What id you hire for the culture you want, and disappoint the new folks with what you have?
26:15 Has anyone’s Agile transformation ever gone fast enough? What is the pace of transition that you need?
27:17 Remember to acknowledge the positives
28:00 Advice for Senior Mgmt. on adopting Agile
32:36 Advice for Team Members who feel like Mgmt. doesn’t get it yet
36:30 How to reach Jessie and Paul
38:29 Close
Contacting Jessie and Paul
Jessie is the founder of The ImprovEffect. You can reach her at her site here: http://www.improveffect.com or via Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheImprovEffect. She also has a number of upcoming events which can be found here: http://www.improveffect.com/events/
Paul Hammond is is the Director European Product Development at eBay and can be reached via his website: http://phammond.com or on Twitter: https://twitter.com/phammond.
Paul is also on the Board of the Agile Alliance. You can find more about the upcoming Agile Alliance Technical Conference here: https://www.agilealliance.org/agile-alliance-technical-conference-2017/
Oct 31, 2016 • 44min
Having Empathy For Your Project - w/ Patrice Colancecco Embry
This summer Patrice Colancecco Embry posted an article on The Digital Project Manager suggesting that project managers needed to show empathy not just towards team members and stakeholders, but towards the project itself.
In this interview Patrice and Dave dig in a little deeper on the idea of showing empathy for your project, why and how you'd go about doing that. They also get into the how important it is for the PM to show empathy for him/herself and when it is okay to totally hate the project.
If you'd like to check out Patrice's original article, you can find it here: http://www.thedigitalprojectmanager.com/managing-project-empathy/
If you'd like to get in touch with Patrice, you can reach her via:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/patrice108
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patriceembry
Her website http://www.patrice-embry.com
Oct 11, 2016 • 32min
Jukka Lindstrom - The Transformation Will Be Digitized
One of the great benefits I have had through volunteering for the Scrum Alliance has been the opportunity to work with a long list of inspiring and brilliant people. At the top of that list is Jukka Lindstrom. Jukka is someone who’s approach to exploring and solving problems is so different from my own that I felt like every time we collaborated on something, I got better at what I was doing just by working with him. A few years ago Jukka left his job as an Agile Coach and Trainer and started working full time with traditional organizations. At the start of 2016 he joined Cargotec to head up their Digital Transformation effort. If you think Agile Transition is hard, consider that it is only a small part of the transformation of digitizing a global organization with 11,000 people who are used to working in an analog world.
In the first part of the interview Jukka and I talk about the work he’s been doing since leaving Reaktor and what it’s like trying to transform a company of 11,000 people to not just Agile, but a digitized way of working as well. Leaving the Agile Consulting world to go back into a traditional environment is a brave choice, but for Jukka, it presented an opportunity to test out what he had learned and see if he could help. While it has provided him with great learning experiences, it has also come with some tough moments. In the second part of the interview we focus on how what that career transition has been like and how he has avoided getting trapped in the doldrums when he is faced with working in a more traditional environment.
Show Notes
00:09 Interview Begins
00:57 Jukka’s role at Cargotec and what the company does
02:37 The difference between Agile Transformation and Digital Transformation
07:36 The complexity of transformation at Cargotec
08:44 Why is this level of transformation so much harder than basic Agile transformation
10:10 The mindset shift
11:54 Placing a bet on technology when you don’t know exactly what you’ll be able to do with the result yet
13:00 transforming11,000 people … “that’s like 1,200-1,500 teams of people”
15:00 Where do you learn faster? Working in software or more traditional (manufacturing) companies
17:15 Becoming an Agile Bodhisattva
17:52 When you walk back into the waterfall, doesn’t it kinda suck? And how do you stay inspired?
19:45 Realizing that the reason you feel stuck is because you aren’t being true to yourself
22:37 How to avoid playing the victim and taking ownership of your own learning and joy
24:30 “I’m not having fun… why am I doing this?”
25:27 If you can’t find fun in what you’re doing, you’re doing the wrong thing
25:55 Things Jukka does outside of work that helps him stay engaged and learning while he is at work
27:00 MIT’s ULab
Links from the Interview
Cargotec Website: http://www.cargotec.com
Singapore Cargo Port Timelapse Video https://youtu.be/HrZg96L8yaY
MIT’s ULab Course https://www.edx.org/course/u-lab-leading-emerging-future-mitx-15-671-1x
Leading from the Emerging Future by Otto Scharmer http://amzn.to/2dJJ1TL
Reaktor https://reaktor.com
If you’d like to contact Jukka
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jukkalindstrom
Twitter https://twitter.com/jukka_lindstrom
Sep 20, 2016 • 1h 19min
Alistair Cockburn - Designing Quality of Life
Writing the introduction to a podcast interview with Dr. Alistair Cockburn is not a simple thing. He is the co-author of the Agile Manifesto and the author of numerous books on Agile, Use Cases and Object Oriented Programming. There is also his work with Crystal and now with the Heart of Agile. He’s contributed a significant body of material around the topic of how we work. While this interview touches on most of the above, the primary focus of the interview is around a simple question with a complex answer: How can you design a lifestyle that is based on continually examining and enhancing the quality of your life.
The interview is a long one, but is filled with volumes of advice and wisdom on how to build a professional life that supports the level of quality you want to achieve in your personal life. The information will be especially valuable for anyone working on consulting. For those who are pressed for time, I’ve created detailed show notes below so you can jump to a specific portion if you need to and you can find them here: http://bit.ly/2cjamVJ
If you would like to learn more about Alistair Cockburn, check out http://alistair.cockburn.us.
If you’d like to follow Alistair on Twitter, you can find him at https://twitter.com/TotherAlistair
If you’d like to learn more about Heart of Agile, check out http://heartofagile.com
If you’d like to check out the Facebook Live conversation between Alistair and Nic Sementa, try http://bit.ly/2cESM57
Sep 7, 2016 • 39min
How to Write a User Story for Marketing w/ Nic Sementa and Alistair Cockburn
Nic Sementa from the Agile Marketing Academy joins me in this podcast to share his thoughts on how to craft User Stories that will work for marketing. Nic's thoughts and opinions on this topic are heavily influenced by his marketing background, which, as he points out in the interview, is a little unique since most of the conversations on the topic are led by agile practitioners.
During the interview Alistair Cockburn joined in the conversation to offer his expert advice and guidance on the subject. Alistair is one of the authors of the Agile Manifesto, the creator of the Crystal methods, leading voice on Use Cases and the man behind the Heart of Agile. (There is lots more - you can find it all at http://alistair.cockburn.us/ )
Show Notes:
00:38 Nic’s background and the challenges faced by Marketing that Agile could help with
4:27 Putting Agile together with Marketing
5:52 User Stories from a Marketers perspective
6:52 The historical challenges involved with “marketing” to the customer as opposed to engaging directly with the customer to find out what they need
8:00 How coercing your customer to buy leads to the marketing equivalent of technical debt
8:50 Googling Agile Marketing
9:20 The corporate world is high school with ashtrays
10:00 Why marketing needs a new language framework for Agile
10:57 Apology to the Band Geeks (which Dave is)
11:30 Revenue impact of implementing Agile Marketing Techniques
11:52 How User Stories change in Agile Marketing
12:33 Personas and more
13:33 Developing a deeper understanding of the User and his/her pain points
14:03 MadMen in Reverse is not going to help you understand the “ideal customer”
15:14 Marketing Research
16:10 There is no such thing as offline marketing
17:52 Recap of the Marketing User Story Guidance
18:57 Let’s get al Skynet with this thing!
20:00 Special Guest Alistair Cockburn on Agile Marketing User Stories
25:55 Abstract thinkers vs. concrete thinkers
28:05 Alistair’s visual grammar version of User Stories
35:33 Where to learn more about the Agile Marketing Academy and how to reach Nic
Some Links:
For more on the Agile Marketing Academy you can go to their Certification site http://www.agilemarketingcertification.com
or send them an email at info@agilemarketingacademy.com.
You can reach Nic on Twitter -> https://twitter.com/nicsementa
Aug 12, 2016 • 37min
The Brave & the Bold - Maria Matarelli, Michael Sahota - Certified Agile Leadership Training
Maria Matarelli and Michael Sahota have joined forces to provide upcoming Certified Agile Leadership Training workshops in Chicago and Toronto, as well as a free webinar which highlights some of the key learnings offered in the public sessions.
In this interview Maria, Michael and Dave discuss the challenges Leadership faces when it comes to creating lasting organizational change that can support Agile.
Show Notes
00:53 What they’re working on - Helping Change Agents Managers and Companies orient for Agile Success
2:50 - Why the Scrum Alliance created the Certified Agile Leadership program
4:53 - Does Management have awareness of how they may be impeding Agile
7:14 - The ugly truth of Agile and how leadership creates organizational conflict
8:51 - Why a typical approach to Agile transformation doesn’t create change that can last
10:05 - How the class can help Senior Leadership become adopt an Agile Mindset
11:02 - Survival is optional
12:02 - What kind of people attend the program
12:55 - How the class addresses Leadership, Organizational Culture and how we can foster personal and organizational growth
16:31 - Is there a point where organizational transformation is complete?
18:04 - Dave’s bad metaphor for Agile transformation
19:42 - Becoming more mindful about organizational culture at the leadership level
21:48 - Killing Agile
23:16 - Maria saves the metaphor (or analogy)
24:48 - Discipline, joy and figuring out what you want
26:47 - A dream of greatness
28:39 - Details on the 8/25 FREE Webinar: “Navigating Agile Transformation - an Updated Survival Guide”
30:25 - Is taking any step towards Agile adoption a positive thing?
31:23 - Moving beyond Agile practices to an Agile Mindset
33:48 - Your company and your problems ARE NOT DIFFERENT
34:52 - Details on the upcoming classes in Chicago (9/22-23) and Toronto (9/12-13)
To learn more and sign up for the 8/25 FREE Webinar “Navigating Agile Transformation - an Updated Survival Guide” http://agileleadershipchicago.com/webinar-replay
For information on the upcoming Certified Agile Leadership classes, please follow these links:
In Chicago: http://www.agileleadershipchicago.com
Other locations: http://agilitrix.com/agile/certified-agile-leadership-training/
For more information on the Scrum Alliance's Certified Agile Leadership program: www.scrumalliance.org/agile-leadership
Getting in touch with Maria and Michael
- Maria Matarelli- findmaria.com or twitter.com/mariamatarelli
- Michael Sahota - agilitrix.com or twitter.com/MichaelSahota
Aug 1, 2016 • 42min
PAW - Mental Health and PM
On the Digital PM Slack channel there was some discussion recently about Project Managers' having PTSD. In this podcast, Carson Pierce, Senior PM at DDB Edmonton and Registered Psychologist, Dr. Krista Pierce (who is also Caron's wife) and I got the chance to discuss the topic of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, the stress PMs' experience at work and the relationship between the two.
Show Notes:
Krista and Carson Introductions 0:15
Introduction to the topic of Mental Health and Project Management 1:58
The Stress Project Managers Experience vs. actual PTSD 3:30
Living with failure but expecting success 5:30
Are we making too much of it 6:19
We are a dysfunctional bunch 8:00
The role experience plays in helping you cope 9:55
Lacking self-awareness 12:40
How to cope with being assertive 13:42
Bringing the bad news and being at ease15:58
Role playing the tough conversations18:26
Personal risk management 19:39
Recommendations for coping with the stress of being a PM 21:00
Setting boundaries for yourself (and sticking with them) 24:15
Carving out the self-care space and finding balance 25:55
Mindfulness 28:42
Talking with your client (and team) about personal boundaries 29:49
Owning the burden you choose to carry 32:32
Letting go of the things you can do (Inbox 1,708) 33:03
Parting advice for coping with stress 36:45
Getting in touch with Carson and Krista 39:50
The Digital PM Summit 2016 40:28
Getting in touch with Carson and Krista
Kristi can be reached at http://kristapiercepsychologist.com
Carson can be reached at carsonpierce.com or via email at carson@carsonpierce.com
If you'd like access to the Digital PM Slack Channel, just email Carson
The site for the 2015 Digital PM Summit can be found here: http://bureauofdigital.com/summits/digital-pm/
Jun 21, 2016 • 32min
Roman Pichler - The Importance of Product Strategy
Roman Pichler, one of the leading voices in Agile Product Ownership has released a new book, "Strategize: Product Strategy and Product Roadmap Practices for the Digital Age", that presents a number of tools and techniques Product Owners and Product Managers can use to gain a deeper understanding the product(s) they are developing in order to stock and maintain a better product backlog.
Show Notes:
Why the wrote Strategize 00:26
Adding Product Strategy to Agile Planning 2:46
Vision to Strategy to Roadmap 5:37
How to use the Go Product Roadmap to feed Release Planning 6:00
Who you need to create the Roadmap? 8:40
How Strategize should help Product Owners and Product Managers 10:30
Is the focus on Product Ownership increasing and maturing? 11:50
Explaining the difference between and Product Owner and a Product Manager? 15:20
The key elements of Product Strategy 19:20
Aligning products across the portfolio 21:24
Product Owner at the Portfolio level 23:00
How often should you update your Vision Board and Roadmap? 24:05
How important is it that Team Members know the Product Vision? 25:50
If there was one misunderstanding about Product Ownership that you could fix, what would it be? 27:54
How to get in touch with Roman 30:00
If you'd like to get in touch with Roman, you can reach him at http://www.romanpichler.com
If you'd like to pick up a copy of Strategize, you can find it here: https://www.amazon.com/Strategize-Product-Strategy-Roadmap-Practices/dp/0993499201/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466442777&sr=8-1&keywords=strategize
May 24, 2016 • 1h 8min
DrunkenPM Ep 4 - GenderBias in Project Management
Gender Bias in Project Management
Episode 4 of DrunkenPM focuses on the impact of Gender Bias in the Project Management space. This episode consists of two interviews. The first is with a group of women who work in Digital Project Management (Larissa Scordato, Tera Caldwell Simon and Patrice Colancecco Embry). The second interview features Agile Coach Natalie Warnert. Warning - there are a few expletives in this one...
Show Notes:
Interview 1 : Gender Bias in Digital Project Management - with Patrice Colancecco Embry, Tera Caldwell Simon and Larissa Scordato
00:05 Intro
01:18 Women in Digital Project management Interview start and guest introductions
04:42 Meet the Dexters
05:25 Being a PM comes with challenges, does being a female PM carry additional challenges
9:38 Reaching out to your team for validation and support
12:08 Getting support may not fix the actual problem
13:50 How much does experience factor in
14:35 Does having a commanding presence only come with experience and how does gender impact your ability to take the room
16:46 Larissa is not sorry for interrupting
17:41 Letting your team take the floor
18:28 Note Taking
20:20 Generational gender bias
22:50 An apology is nice, a public apology is better
23:00 Advice for young women who are new to Project Management
24:05 Having difficult conversations and owning your role
24:40 The power of being knowledgable about your topic
26:00 The importance of assigning a notetaker
26:45 Getting a mentor
27:19 Know that you are good at what you do
27:35 How gender bias has an impact on your use of the phrase “I don’t know.”
29:30 When you get caught now knowing
30:09 Pretending to be brave enough / Imposter Syndrome
32:00 Taking care when you act “As if…”
33:30 “You’re either emotional, or your’e a bitch…”
35:20 Putting on the dominant female role and protecting your team
38:00 The “Sorry” thing
44:20 Advice for Men
46:10 Contacting Tera, Larissa and Patrice
46:40 Closing
All the participants in the above interview are "on the Twitter"
Larissa Scordato: https://twitter.com/larissascordato
Patrice Colancecco Embry : https://twitter.com/patrice108
Tera Caldwell Simon: https://twitter.com/tcaldsimon
Interview 2 - Gender Bias in Agile - with Natalie Warnert
47:07 Intro to the Interview with Agile Coach Natalie Warnert
47:50 Natalie’s involvement with Women in Agile
48:42 Women in Agile events are not just for women
49:27 Is it more difficult for a young woman to break into Agile
50:40 Behavior at a conferences
51:33 An example of differing standards
52:27 Gender bias, age bias and the Agile Coach
53:30 Women attendees at conferences
54:06 Advice for women entering the Agile space
55:35 Carrying yourself with confidence and owning it
56:00 Being more mindful of gender bias
57:31 What is an Aspiring Feminist?
60:10 Is the bias as significant in Agile as it is in waterfall?
61:20 Proving yourself
62:30 Support among women in Agile and at Agile conferences
65:00 Fighting over the slice of pie
65:39 Not tracking gender at conferences
66:00 Tracking down Natalie
Natalie can be reached via her website at http://nataliewarnert.com


