
Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast
Out of Office is a travel podcast hosted by us, Ryan Davis and Kiernan Schmitt. From early childhood, we were each infected with a serious case of wanderlust (among other things.)
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
Latest episodes

Aug 23, 2022 • 1h 2min
Germany’s Opera Paradise with Alex Ross
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan chats with The New Yorker’s Alex Ross about his recent article “A Grand Tour of Germany’s Opera Paradise.” Ross explains how the German government’s investment in the arts allows directors and actors to take more artistic risks—and keeps ticket prices within reach of the average person and tourist. Germany’s network of over 80 opera houses means that even small towns can be home to extraordinary theater. Plus, bratwurst! Things we talked about in today’s podcast: “A Grand Tour of Germany’s Opera Paradise” in The New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/06/20/a-grand-tour-of-germanys-opera-paradise Alex’s latest book Wagenerism https://www.amazon.com/Wagnerism-Art-Politics-Shadow-Music/dp/0374285934 Coburger bratwurst http://www.germanfoodguide.com/wurstdetail.cfm?wurst_number=7 The Concorde returns https://www.cnet.com/culture/concorde-revolutionized-air-travel-when-could-supersonic-flights-come-back/ Salem’s last witch exonerated https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/last-convicted-salem-witch-is-finally-cleared-180980516/

Aug 16, 2022 • 57min
Traveling The Andes With Kim MacQuarrie
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan chats with Kim MacQuarrie, author of 5 books covering the history, flora, and fauna of the Andes and the Amazon. For a fun drinking game, take a shot every time Ryan mispronounces something in Spanish. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Kim MacQuarrie’s books: https://www.amazon.com/Kim-MacQuarrie/e/B001JS7QNQ%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share https://www.latimes.com./world-nation/story/2022-07-27/americans-are-flooding-mexico-city-some-mexicans-want-them-to-go-home

Aug 9, 2022 • 1h 21min
Southern Peru
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast we head back to Peru! Ryan is joined by documentarian Chase Whiteside to talk about their recent trip; they chat about what to do in Lima, Arequipa, & Cusco, with a specific focus on their foodie adventures and Incan sites in the Sacred Valley. Also, Ryan LOVES alpaca. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Lima: Museo Jade Riverahttps://www.instagram.com/museojaderivera/?hl=en Museo Larco:https://www.museolarco.org/en/ Central:https://centralrestaurante.com.pe/en/default.html Maido:https://maido.pe/en/ Manduco Ristorante Pizzeria Italiano:https://www.facebook.com/ManducoBarranco Isolina:https://isolina.pe/ Mérito:https://www.meritorestaurante.com/ Convento De San Francisco:https://www.afar.com/places/convento-de-san-francisco-lima Arequipa: Chicha por Gaston Acurio:https://chicha.com.pe/ Museo Santuarios Andinos:https://www.facebook.com/MuseoSantuariosAndinos Zig Zag:https://zigzagrestaurant.com/en/zig-zag-en/ The Train:https://www.belmond.com/trains/south-america/peru/belmond-andean-explorer/ Cusco & The Sacred Valley: Mil:https://milcentro.pe/ Palacio Del Inka Marriott Bar https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/cuzlc-palacio-del-inka-a-luxury-collection-hotel-cusco/dining/ Kiernan’s 2019 Peru Trilogy: Part 1 (Episode 44): https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-44-peru-part-1/ Part 2 (Episode 45): https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-45-peru-part-2/ Part 3 - Machu Picchu (Episode 53): https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-53-peru-part-3-machu-picchu/ State Parks with Peter Kujawinski (Episode 43):https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-43-state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/ Man Walks Around The World:https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/this-man-and-his-dog-spent-seven-years-walking-around-the-world/index.html 21 Life-Changing Trips:https://www.travelandleisure.com/trip-ideas/bucket-list-destinations

Jul 19, 2022 • 53min
Glacier National Park
On this week’s episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan talks about Glacier National Park, including hiking highlights, red jammers, and classic lodge parkitechture. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Sugo Arte https://m.facebook.com/sugoarteconconservacion/posts/?ref=m.facebook.com&mt_nav=0&__nodl&_rdr Glacier National Park https://www.nps.gov/glac/index.htm Going-to-the-Sun Road https://www.nps.gov/glac/planyourvisit/goingtothesunroad.htm Grinnell Glacier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grinnell_Glacier History of the Lodges https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/historyculture/lodges-and-chalets.htm Moon Guide (yes I like the old one!) https://www.amazon.com/Moon-Glacier-National-Park-Handbooks/dp/1598807501 Kim MacQuarrie's The Last Days of the Incas https://www.amazon.com/Last-Days-Incas-Kim-MacQuarrie/dp/0743260503 Caves 101 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/caves-101/id1438098925?i=1000449238134

Jun 23, 2022 • 50min
Rocky Mountain National Park
On this week’s episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan talks about Rocky Mountain National Park ahead of the busy summer season. From majestic peaks to glassy lakes, RMNP is one of America’s premiere parks with hikes and sights accessible to all age ranges and abilities. Plus, Ryan talks about Peru prep. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Rocky Mountain National Park https://www.nps.gov/romo/index.htm The Stanley Hotel https://www.stanleyhotel.com/ Grand Lake Lodge https://www.grandlakelodge.com/ Allenpark Lodge https://allensparklodgebnb.com/ Smokin’ Dave’s BBQ https://smokindavesbbq.com/ The Donut Haus http://www.donuthaus-estespark.com/ Falcon Guide https://www.amazon.com/Best-Hikes-Rocky-Mountain-National/dp/1493046780/ref=sr_1_1?crid=LNBPCIWSMUAE&keywords=rocky+mountain+easy+day+hike&qid=1654717385&s=books&sprefix=rocky+mountain+easy+day+hi%2Cstripbooks%2C74&sr=1-1 “The Motorcycle Diaries” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Motorcycle_Diaries_(film) The New Yorker’s “Flight Attendants Fight Back” https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/05/30/flight-attendants-fighting-back

Jun 7, 2022 • 50min
Summering in the Eastern Shore of Maryland
On this week’s episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast….listen, we’re going to level with you: Kiernan was frankly skeptical that the Eastern Shore of Maryland merited its own episode. Sure, Ryan grew up there but…a whole episode? But we’ll be damned if Ryan didn’t do his hometown proud. From wild horses to historic haunted houses to hip boardwalks and a quirky lifeguarding museum, the Eastern Shore of Maryland is a must-visit summer destination! Plus, learn why Ryan spent (read:misspent) his youth poking squishy crabs. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Ward Museum: https://www.wardmuseum.org/ National Folk Festival - https://nationalfolkfestival.com/ Red Roost Crab House - https://www.theredroost.com/ Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad National Park - https://www.nps.gov/hatu/index.htm Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge - https://www.fws.gov/refuge/blackwater Assateague Island - https://www.nps.gov/asis/index.htm Furnace Town Historic Site - http://www.furnacetown.org/ Bill Tracey - http://ochh.net/tracyindex.html

May 24, 2022 • 53min
“The Cook You Want to Be” with Andy Baraghani
On this week’s episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan talks to Andy Baraghani, food writer, chef extraordinaire, social media star, and author of the new cookbook “The Cook You Want to Be.” Andy talks about how travel inspires his recipe development and the best tricks we can all learn from street vendors. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: “The Cook You Want to Be” by Andy Baraghani:https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781984858566 Andy on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/andybaraghani Andy on San Miguel de Allende: https://nymag.com/strategist/article/san-miguel-de-allende-mexico-things-to-do.html Rick Steves on 2022 Summer Travel in “T+L”:https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-tips/rick-steves-europe-summer-travel-tips NYT’s “Living that #VanLife”:https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/podcasts/the-daily/van-life-millennials-sunday-read.html “Mad Magazine” staff trips:https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2012/12/13/totally-mad-excerpt-what-were-the-mad-trips

May 12, 2022 • 39min
Summer Trip Planning 2022
On this week’s episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan and Kiernan talk about why travel this summer is going to be particularly challenging and the best strategies for optimizing your Covid “revenge travel.” Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Past Episodes: Peru: https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-44-peru-part-1/ https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-45-peru-part-2/ https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-53-peru-part-3-machu-picchu/ Trip Planning 101 https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-two-trip-planning/ State Parks with NYT’s Peter Kujawinski https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-43-state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/ Unexploded Bombs as Souvenir https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2022/04/29/airport-us-tourists-unexploded-souvenir-bomb-to-ben-gurion/?sh=64f6c8a44af2 New Yorker’s “Transforming Trees into Skyscrapers” https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/25/transforming-trees-into-skyscrapers

Apr 26, 2022 • 1h 15min
San Antonio 101
On this week’s episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us to San Antonio, TX and digs deep into the Alamo, San Antonio’s best haunted happenings with Jesse Beere, and the city’s best eats with Edmund Tijerina. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Ryan Garcia Wins:https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33711179/ryan-garcia-dominates-emmanuel-tagoe-unanimous-decision-win Episode 108 on Gothic Cathedrals:https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-108-gothic-cathedrals-101/ Texas Ghost Tour:https://texasghosttour.com/ Briscoe Museum of Western Arthttps://www.briscoemuseum.org/ San Antonio Dining With Edmund Tijerina https://edmundtijerina.com/https://www.amazon.com/San-Antonios-Best-Restaurants-beloved/dp/1978146809/ San Antonio Taxidermy Museum:https://www.buckhornmuseum.com/ Paris’s best taxidermy at Deyrolles https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/deyrolle-paris-book/amp

Apr 7, 2022 • 42min
How War Threatens Ukraine’s Art and Architecture
On this week’s episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan speaks with writer Evan Rail about how the war in Ukraine puts at risk priceless art and architecture and how Ukrainians are trying to protect and preserve their culture. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: New York Times’s “Ukraine’s Architectural Treasures Face Destruction” https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/travel/ukraine-architecture-war.html New York Times’s “In Ukraine, Churches with a Distinctive Allure” https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/travel/ukraines-wooden-churches.html Evan Rail on social https://twitter.com/evanrail?lang=en https://www.instagram.com/evanrail/?hl=en Ukrainian Farmer video game https://www.altchar.com/game-news/there-is-a-game-where-farmers-steal-russian-tanks-with-tractors-now-aQe397I50CBV French Culture Property Protection Officer on Twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/timleberre Kevin Collins On DC: https://twitter.com/kwcollins/status/1506992056731901959 Austin Graff on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/austinkgraff/?hl=en