

Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast
A Travel Podcast
Out of Office is a travel podcast hosted by us, Ryan Davis and Kiernan Schmitt. From early childhood, we were each infected with a serious case of wanderlust (among other things.)
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
Episodes
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Jun 6, 2023 • 52min
North America’s 50 Best Bars
On this week’s episode, Ryan sits down with Mark Sansom, Content Director for North America’s 50 Best Bars, to talk about this year’s 50 Best Bars in North America list. Plus, Ryan and Kiernan share some of their favorite bars that didn’t make the list. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: North America’s 50 Best Bars: https://www.worlds50bestbars.com/northamerica/ The World’s 50 Best Restaurants Main Website: https://www.theworlds50best.com/ World’s 50 Best Discovery Search Tool: https://www.theworlds50best.com/discovery/ The Last Stop: Ryan: https://www.hudsonriverrail.com/ Kiernan: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/magazine/first-class-ethics.html

May 23, 2023 • 56min
First Trip to London
On this week’s episode, the boys right a major wrong: in over 150 episodes, they’ve never done an episode on London for first-timers! England’s capital city can be overwhelming—world-class museums on every corner, historically significant architecture left and right, churches and zoos and gardens and parks and theater and libraries! What is a tourist with limited time to do?? This episode tells you. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Obscure Musuems of London Episode https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-141-obscure-museums-of-london-part-1-return-trip/ River Thames https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-long-and-winding-history-of-the-thames-139049496/ Handy Guide to Neighborhoods of London https://www.huffpost.com/entry/48-london-neighborhoods-a-quick-reference-guide_b_7557148 Planning your public transportation https://tfl.gov.uk/maps_/tfl-go Taxis and “The Knowledge” (NYer article was behind a paywall so here is a NYT) https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/10/t-magazine/london-taxi-test-knowledge.html Westminster Abbey https://www.westminster-abbey.org/ Saint Paul’s https://www.stpauls.co.uk/ Houses of Parliament https://www.parliament.uk/visiting/ Tower of London https://www.hrp.org.uk/tower-of-london/ Buckingham Palace and Changing of the Guard https://www.visitlondon.com/things-to-do/event/8725947-changing-the-guard Hampton Court Palace https://www.hrp.org.uk/hampton-court-palace/#gs.ysui4s Shakespeare’s Globe https://www.shakespearesglobe.com/ West End https://officiallondontheatre.com/london-west-end-guide/ British Museum https://www.britishmuseum.org/ Tate Modern https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-modern Tate Britain https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-britain Victoria and Albert https://www.vam.ac.uk/ V&A David story https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-story-of-michelangelos-david Natural History Museum https://www.nhm.ac.uk/ Churchill War Rooms https://winstonchurchill.org/visit/churchill-war-rooms/ British Library https://www.bl.uk/discovering-our-collections John Soane Museum https://www.soane.org/ Trafalgar Square https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafalgar_Square Piccadilly Circus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccadilly_Circus Hyde Park https://www.royalparks.org.uk/parks/hyde-park Kew Gardens https://www.kew.org/kew-gardens/visit-kew-gardens We love Rick Steves’s London guide for first-timers and, for those who are looking to get way off the beaten path, Jonglez Publishing’s “Secret London.”

May 9, 2023 • 44min
We Design an Airport
On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the show turns 150! The boys reminisce, compare themselves to Sisyphus, and talk about their deep airport feelings.

Apr 25, 2023 • 1h 1min
Quito, Ecuador
In this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," get ready for some high-altitude exploration as Ryan takes us to Quito! Learn about Simon Bolivar's significant other (who was both a lover and a fighter) and discover what qualifies as a tree worm. For more information on the places and experiences discussed in the podcast, check out the following links: Vanishing Postcards podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vanishing-postcards/id1544610020 Historic Quito (UNESCO World Heritage Site): https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/2/ Plaza de la Independencia (Plaza Granda) Basílica del Voto Nacional Basilica and Convent of San Francisco El Panecillo + Virgen de Quito Telefériqo - Quito: https://teleferico.com.ec/ Manuela Sáenz Museum: https://museo-manuela-saenz.negocio.site/ Guayasamín Museum: https://guayasamin.org.ec/ Mitad del Mundo Museo Templo del Sol Pintor Cristobal Ortega Maila Restaurants: Rincón de Francia Somos (featuring Chef Alejandra Espinoza) -Chontacuro (tree worm) dish: https://travelislife.org/chontacuro-eat-live-worms/ Urko Last Stop: Ryan shares a study that shows the farther you wander, the happier you'll be (https://entrylevelrebel.medium.com/new-study-the-farther-you-wander-the-happier-you-will-be-7fbfafa556f), while Kiernan suggests checking out the WPA murals at United States post offices (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_post_office_murals).

Apr 12, 2023 • 37min
Glamping with Kevin Ferguson
On this week’s episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan speaks with glamping entrepreneur Kevin Ferguson, cofounder of Starlight Haven, a luxury hospitality company focused on lesser-known natural wonders in the American South. Things we talk about on this week’s episode: Starlight Haven www.visitstarlight.com Kevin Ferguson https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinferguson2/ Hot Springs National Park https://www.nps.gov/hosp/index.htm

Mar 28, 2023 • 53min
Congaree National Park
On this week’s episode, Kiernan takes us to one of the least populated (and most atmospheric!) national parks: Congaree in South Carolina. Bald cypress knees and abandoned gin stills await! Plus, Kiernan says something CRITICAL about RICK STEVES. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Rick Steves in “Travel & Leisure” https://www.travelandleisure.com/rick-steves-tips-to-avoid-common-travel-issues-7367914 Congaree National Park https://www.nps.gov/cong/index.htm Bald Cypress Trees https://www.nwf.org/Educational-Resources/Wildlife-Guide/Plants-and-Fungi/Bald-Cypress Harry Hampton https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_R._E._Hampton Friends of Congaree Swamp https://friendsofcongaree.org/location/bluff-trail-guide/ Eisenberg’s LIVES! (As S&P Lunch) https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/21/playful-nostalgia-and-honed-classics-at-sp-lunch

Feb 28, 2023 • 1h 3min
Luis Barragán’s Mexico City
In this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan and Ryan explore the colorful world of acclaimed Mexican architect Luis Barragán and his iconic works in Mexico City. Ryan chats with Martin Luque, a CDMX-based architect who actually grew up in Casa Gilardi - the last house designed by Barragán! Also, Kiernan shares his insights on traveling with kids and even shares a harrowing tale of his Dickensian youth. Things we talked about on today’s episode: Martin’s Father talks about Casa Gilardi: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10154827207262454 Casa Gilardi: https://casagilardi.mx/ Tetetlan & Casa Pedregal: http://www.tetetlan.com/ Casa Estudio Luis Barragán: http://www.casaluisbarragan.org/eng/en_index.html Chapel and Convent of the Capuchinas Sacramentarias https://www.barragan-foundation.org/works/list/capuchin-convent-chapel The Last Stop: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/24/t-magazine/luis-barragan.html

Feb 14, 2023 • 42min
NYT 52 Places to Go in 2023
On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan and Ryan celebrate the release of the New York Times’s annual “52 Places to Go” list. Plus, Kiernan ruminates about the importance of family vacations and Ryan triumphantly returns to Brooklyn. Things we talked about on today’s episode: NYT’s “52 Places to Go in 2023” https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/travel/52-places-travel-2023.html Mark Twain House vandalism https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/mark-twain-house-in-hartford-vandalized-by-rocks-bricks/2948094/ Museum of Modern Renaissance https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/massachusetts/museum-of-modern-renaissance-ma/

Jan 24, 2023 • 43min
Oaxaca City 101
On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Ryan takes us on a journey to Oaxaca City, the home of mezcal and loads of Catholic Churches—a great combo! Plus the boys discuss why Panama hats are, weirdly, Ecuadorian. Things we talked about on today’s episode: Centro Cultural San Pablo Museo Textil de Oaxaca Templo de Santo Domingo de Guzmán CUATROSIE7E GALERÍA Estampa Galeria La Casa De Las Artesanias Criollo (Enrique Olvera) Casa Oaxaca el Restaurante Boulenc Mercado 20 de Noviembre Bar Ilegal Mezcalogia El Árbol del Tule (The Tree of Tule) Mercado Gastronómico de Santa María del Tule (Try a Tlayuda) The Last Stop: Ryan: Noma is closing at the end of 2024!https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/dining/noma-closing-rene-redzepi.html Kiernan:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/04/04/the-mezcal-tour-of-oaxaca

Dec 25, 2022 • 49min
Christmas Spectacular Five
This week on “Out of Office,” the boys make merry and chat through the top NYC Christmas trees. Plus, Louis Armstrong spies a Christmas creep! Stop Podcasting Yourself: https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/stop-podcasting-yourself/ Things we talked about on this week’s episode: Met Creche Controversy: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/nyregion/a-familys-tradition-helping-decorate-the-met-christmas-tree-has-come-to-an-end.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Ugly Ornament 1: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1120326393/big-chonky-glitter-grinning-ornament?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=ugly+christmas+ornament+face&ref=sr_gallery-1-2&pop=1&sts=1&organic_search_click=1 Ugly Ornament 2: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1325171158