

Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast
A Travel Podcast
Out of Office is a travel podcast hosted by us, Ryan Davis and Kiernan Schmitt. From early childhood, we were each infected with a serious case of wanderlust (among other things.)
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Jul 30, 2024 • 49min
“Secret Boston” with Kiernan Schmitt
This week Ryan welcomes his favorite author Kiernan Schmitt to talk about Kiernan’s new guidebook “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide.” The book is a part of Jonglez Publishing’s “Secret” series, which specializes in historical oddities and way off-the-beaten-path sites fit for locals and enterprising tourists both! Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Buy “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide” https://bookshop.org/p/books/secret-boston-an-unusual-guide-kiernan-schmitt/21037780?ean=9782361957179 https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Boston-Unusual-Guide-guides/dp/2361957175 Secret series: https://jonglezpublishing.com/product-category/secret-guides/ Our interview with Thomas Jonglez https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/travel-book-publisher-thomas-jonglez/id1438098925?i=1000454443728 North End Library Venice Miniature https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/diorama-of-venetian-palace The Dutch House https://www.redfin.com/MA/Brookline/20-Netherlands-Rd-02445/home/11461795 Arlington Street Church Tiffany Window https://www.ascboston.org/about/building.html Neon Williams https://neonwilliams.com/ Forest Hills Cemetery “Neighbors” by Christopher Frost https://www.christopherfrost.org/#/neighbors2006/ The Dodecagonal House https://www.bostonpreservation.org/news-item/my-boston-home-dragon-jp Jumbo’s Ashes at Tufts https://now.tufts.edu/2014/09/22/glory-was-jumbo BC Labyrinth https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/memorial-labyrinth.html Dorchester Historic Brick Collection https://www.dorchesterhistoricalsociety.org/exhibits Greenway Carousel https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2013/08/31/greenway-carousel-grand-opening/ Puppet Free Library https://puppetco-op.org/libraries.htm Climate Change and Turbulence https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/climate-change-is-making-airplane-turbulence-more-common-and-severe-scientists-say-180984440/ Revere Sand Sculpting Festival https://www.internationalsandsculptingfestival.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gg7pYzzTUk Ponyhenge https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/05/02/opinion/ponyhenge-elizabeth-graver/

Jul 16, 2024 • 49min
First Trip to Chicago
Tiffany Do, an expert in Chicago architectural tours, shares her insight into the Windy City’s vibrant culture and stunning architecture. She explores iconic attractions like Millennium Park, the mesmerizing Tiffany Dome, and the historic Robie House. The discussion includes irresistible culinary delights such as deep-dish pizza and Chicago-style hot dogs. Listeners get a taste of the city’s sports heritage at Wrigley Field and its charming LGBTQ+ neighborhood, Boys Town, making Chicago a must-visit destination for travelers.

Jul 2, 2024 • 1h 3min
Louisville, Kentucky
On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys luxuriate in Louisville. From exploring hidden walkways to throwing back some bourbon—plus a quick stop to honor The Colonel—Ryan and Kiernan are officially Kentucky converts. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: 21C Museum Hotel https://www.21cmuseumhotels.com/louisville/ The Brown Hotel https://www.brownhotel.com/ The Hot Brown https://www.gotolouisville.com/blog/hot-brown/ Louisville Historic Tours https://louisvillehistorictours.com/ Conrad-Caldwell House https://www.conradcaldwell.org/ Louisville’s Olmsted Parks https://louisvilleky.gov/government/louisville-loop/olmsted-parkways Cave Hill Cemetery https://www.cavehillcemetery.com/ Belle of Louisville Riverboat https://www.belleoflouisville.org/ Louisville Slugger Museum https://www.sluggermuseum.com/ Frazier History Museum https://www.fraziermuseum.org/ Speed Art Museum https://www.speedmuseum.org/ Proof on Main https://proofonmain.com/ The Silver Dollar https://www.whiskeybythedrink.com/ 610 Magnolia https://610magnolia.com/ Garage Bar https://garageonmarket.com/ Butchertown Grocery Bakery https://www.gotolouisville.com/directory/butchertown-grocery-bakery/ Chik’n & Mi https://www.chiknandmi.com/ Muth’s Candies https://muthscandy.com/ Mile Wide Beer Co. https://milewidebeer.com/

Jun 18, 2024 • 1h
Mammoth Cave National Park
On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys put on their hard hats, light their lanterns, and head underground! Ryan and Kiernan are fresh back from Mammoth Cave National Park in Kentucky—the largest cave system in the world! They have tales to tell about secret subterranean rivers, folksy rangers, and gypsum flowers that take eons to grow. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Mammoth Cave National Park https://www.nps.gov/maca/index.htm The Cave Wars https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/the-kentucky-cave-wars.htm Stephen Bishop https://www.nps.gov/people/stephen-bishop.htm George Morrison https://www.nps.gov/people/george-morrison.htm Floyd Collins https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/tragedy-at-sand-cave.htm Frozen Niagra https://www.nps.gov/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=335A7FB9-AA3A-4D2E-A446-C2F15F29DE5E Historical Tour https://www.nps.gov/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=3CDB5B65-5954-49BB-A2FE-AEA32F56FC03 Gothic Avenue Tour https://www.greatamericanhikes.com/post/gothic-avenue-tour-in-mammoth-cave-national-park Grand Avenue Tour https://www.alittletour.com/2017/06/01/grand-avenue-tour-mammoth-cave-kentucky/ All Tours https://www.nps.gov/maca/planyourvisit/cave-tours.htm Book Tours here https://recreation.gov/ticket/facility/234640 Cave City https://cavecity.com/ Wigwam Village https://historicwigwamvillage.com/

Jun 11, 2024 • 1h 10min
Richmond, Virginia (Return Trip)
This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” we revisit the November 2022 episode on Richmond, Virginia. It was Ryan and Kiernan's first overnight trip together (staying in separate hotels, of course)! They discuss museums, historic homes, graves, Presidents, and plenty about the Civil War. They also share their restaurant recommendations and uncover a standout hidden treasure in a National Park! The American Civil War Museum https://acwm.org/ Virginia Museum of Fine Arts https://vmfa.museum John Marshall House https://preservationvirginia.org/historic-sites/john-marshall-house/ Hollywood Cemetery https://www.hollywoodcemetery.org/ Maggie Walker House https://www.nps.gov/mawa/index.htm Society of Cincinnati https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_the_Cincinnati Virginia State Capitol http://virginiacapitol.gov/index.php/tours/ Statue of George Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_George_Washington_(Houdon) James Madison’s Montpelier https://www.montpelier.org/ Paul Jennings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Jennings_(slave) Eater’s Richmond List https://dc.eater.com/maps/best-bars-restaurants-bakeries-richmond-dining-guide Barcode https://www.barcoderva.com/ Triple Crossing Brewery https://triplecrossing.com/ Emily Dickinson’s House https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/arts/design/emily-dickinson-museum-renovation.html

May 28, 2024 • 51min
Flight Attendant Secrets
On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan chats with “Jade,” a flight attendant for a US airline, about the high-flying lifestyle and her biggest traveler pet peeves. Recorded in-person in Boston, Ryan also complains about the Logan Airport Uber Pickup experience. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Michelin in Mexico: https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/tags/Mexico

May 14, 2024 • 1h 4min
Guatemala
On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan leads us through highlights from his trip to Guatemala—museums of Guatemala City, the pyramids (and howler monkeys!) of Tikal National Park, Antigua volcano hikes, and the part-devil/part-saint of Lake Atitlan. Plus, LOTS OF GORY CATHOLIC STUFF! Things we talk about in this week’s episode: The Rick Steves Guide to Life https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2024/04/29/rick-steves-home-partner-philanthropy-washington/ US State Department Guatemala Safety Information https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Guatemala.html Brief History of Guatemala’s complicated political history and civil war https://cja.org/where-we-work/guatemala/ Palacio Nacional de la Cultura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Palace_(Guatemala) Museo Ixchel https://museoixchel.org/en/museo-ixchel-english/ Museo Miraflores https://www.museomiraflores.org.gt/ Museo Nacional de Arqueologia y Etnologia https://sig.muniguate.com/proyectosDIGM/cultura/museos/MUSEOS/Arqueolog%C3%ADa%20y%20Etnolog%C3%ADa.html Tikal National Park https://www.tikalnationalpark.org/ Antigua https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigua_Guatemala Santa Catalina Archi https://theculturetrip.com/central-america/guatemala/articles/a-brief-history-of-antiguas-santa-catalina-arch Convento de las Capuchinas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iglesia_y_Convento_de_las_Capuchinas,_Antigua_Guatemala Efrain Recinos sculpture park https://intothearmsofamerica.com/destinations/guatemala/antigua/the-little-museum-up-in-the-antigua-hills/ Lake Atitlan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Atitl%C3%A1n Maximon https://atitlanliving.com/guatemala-travel-information/how-to-visit-a-cofradia-in-santiago/ Michelin Star Analysis https://www.chefspencil.com/michelin-dining-costs-analysis/ Your iPhone’s Hidden Noise Machine https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/iphone-tips-tricks/

Apr 30, 2024 • 37min
Traveling For Concerts (Taylor’s version)
On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan interviews Emma Weissmann on the boom of concert travel led by Taylor Swift. Plus, Kiernan endorses Mitt Romney again. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Mitt Romney for Harvard President. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/16/mitt-romney-harvard-president-antisemitism/ Emma Interview: TravelAge West: https://www.travelagewest.com/ Emma’s podcasts: https://www.travelagewest.com/Podcasts Taylor Swift cruise: https://www.travelagewest.com/Travel/Cruise/taylor-swift-cruise NPR article on economic impact: https://www.npr.org/2023/12/27/1221483930/girl-economy-taylor-swift-beyonce-barbie-2023 Last Stop: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a60314481/literary-travel-boom/ https://www.bnbfinder.com/

Apr 16, 2024 • 1h 22min
Italian Cuisine Expert Fred Plotkin is BACK!
On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan digs in on regional Italian cuisine with one of the show’s most interesting guests ever: opera and Italian cuisine expert Fred Plotkin. Fred talks us through some of the most popular and most obscure foods of Italy, sharing history and wonderful anecdotes all along the way. Part 2 of 3! Things we talk about in this week’s episode: “Italy for Food Lovers” https://store.ricksteves.com/shop/p/italy-for-food-lovers Fred Plotkin biography https://www.wqxr.org/people/fred-plotkin/ The Atlantic’s “Crying Myself to Sleep on the Biggest Cruise Ship Ever” by Gary Shteyngart https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/05/royal-caribbean-cruise-ship-icon-of-seas/677838/ CNN’s Grandmother and Son Are on the Move https://www.cnn.com/travel/grandma-joy-ryan-grandson-seven-continents/index.html

Apr 2, 2024 • 1h 1min
Trip Planning With ChatGPT
On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan grades ChatGPT, evaluating its organization of three weekend getaways. Ryan shares tips on how to correctly leverage ChatGPT for travel plans. Introducing a fresh segment, "The Layover," Ryan chats with Tommy Wallach from Hatch Escapes on the launch of their latest immersive adventure, "The Ladder." Things we talk about in this week’s episode: ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/ Hatch Escapes: https://www.hatchescapes.com/ OOO Episode on Escape Rooms: https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-50-escape-rooms-with-tommy-wallach/ LAST STOP Ryan: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-accelerates-plan-to-unleash-apex-predator-near-rural-community-over-widespread-local-opposition Kiernan: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/arts/willy-wonka-musical-parody-inspired-by-viral-event-1235852849/