
Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast
Out of Office is a travel podcast hosted by us, Ryan Davis and Kiernan Schmitt. From early childhood, we were each infected with a serious case of wanderlust (among other things.)
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
Latest episodes

Sep 10, 2024 • 54min
El Salvador 101
This week on the pod, Ryan takes us to El Salvador, the land of volcanoes and Bitcoin. Hear about how he almost made it inside a beautiful church and his visit to Hermit Island. Plus, what was the miniature controversy at the Kentucky State Fair? LAST STOP Ryan: https://nypost.com/2024/08/23/us-news/kentucky-state-fair-removes-ribbon-winning-miniature-after-realizing-it-depicted-a-porn-set/ Kiernan: https://www.travelandleisure.com/hotels-resorts/vacation-rentals/most-unique-airbnb-stay-every-us-state

Aug 27, 2024 • 1h 2min
What is a Museum Hotel?
Sarah Robbins, the COO of 21C Museum Hotels, dives into the fascinating fusion of modern art and hospitality. She shares how they create unforgettable experiences with whimsical art installations, like playful penguin statues. The conversation moves to the vibrant community engagement through art and dining at their hotels. Robbins also gives insights into their upcoming Alaska cruise, blending adventure with the unique offerings of museum hotels. Plus, they discuss recent airline policy changes and their impact on family travel.

Aug 13, 2024 • 49min
The Hamptons
This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys put on their finest yacht-wear and head to that enclave of the rich and famous, The Hamptons. Kiernan talks about what exactly “The Hamptons” refers to, logistics of exploring there as a tourist, and a few cultural treasures hidden out among the seaside mansions. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Hamptons Jitney https://www.hamptonjitney.com/hjmobile/ Surf Lodge https://thesurflodge.com/ Montauk Point Lighthouse https://montaukhistoricalsociety.org/montauk-point-lighthouse/ Coopers Beach https://www.discoverlongisland.com/listing/coopers-beach/1047/ Parrish Art Museum https://parrishart.org/ Pollock-Krasner House https://artistshomes.org/site/pollock-krasner-house-and-study-center Green River Cemetery https://greenrivercemetery.org/ Museo Cacao https://museocacao.com/ Palmero’s Breaththrough Saint https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/03/world/europe/palermo-catholic-saint-hindu-pantheon.html Buy “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide” https://bookshop.org/p/books/secret-boston-an-unusual-guide-kiernan-schmitt/21037780?ean=9782361957179 https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Boston-Unusual-Guide-guides/dp/2361957175

Jul 30, 2024 • 49min
“Secret Boston” with Kiernan Schmitt
This week Ryan welcomes his favorite author Kiernan Schmitt to talk about Kiernan’s new guidebook “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide.” The book is a part of Jonglez Publishing’s “Secret” series, which specializes in historical oddities and way off-the-beaten-path sites fit for locals and enterprising tourists both! Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Buy “Secret Boston: An Unusual Guide” https://bookshop.org/p/books/secret-boston-an-unusual-guide-kiernan-schmitt/21037780?ean=9782361957179 https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Boston-Unusual-Guide-guides/dp/2361957175 Secret series: https://jonglezpublishing.com/product-category/secret-guides/ Our interview with Thomas Jonglez https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/travel-book-publisher-thomas-jonglez/id1438098925?i=1000454443728 North End Library Venice Miniature https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/diorama-of-venetian-palace The Dutch House https://www.redfin.com/MA/Brookline/20-Netherlands-Rd-02445/home/11461795 Arlington Street Church Tiffany Window https://www.ascboston.org/about/building.html Neon Williams https://neonwilliams.com/ Forest Hills Cemetery “Neighbors” by Christopher Frost https://www.christopherfrost.org/#/neighbors2006/ The Dodecagonal House https://www.bostonpreservation.org/news-item/my-boston-home-dragon-jp Jumbo’s Ashes at Tufts https://now.tufts.edu/2014/09/22/glory-was-jumbo BC Labyrinth https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/memorial-labyrinth.html Dorchester Historic Brick Collection https://www.dorchesterhistoricalsociety.org/exhibits Greenway Carousel https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2013/08/31/greenway-carousel-grand-opening/ Puppet Free Library https://puppetco-op.org/libraries.htm Climate Change and Turbulence https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/climate-change-is-making-airplane-turbulence-more-common-and-severe-scientists-say-180984440/ Revere Sand Sculpting Festival https://www.internationalsandsculptingfestival.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gg7pYzzTUk Ponyhenge https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/05/02/opinion/ponyhenge-elizabeth-graver/

Jul 16, 2024 • 49min
First Trip to Chicago
Tiffany Do, an expert in Chicago architectural tours, shares her insight into the Windy City’s vibrant culture and stunning architecture. She explores iconic attractions like Millennium Park, the mesmerizing Tiffany Dome, and the historic Robie House. The discussion includes irresistible culinary delights such as deep-dish pizza and Chicago-style hot dogs. Listeners get a taste of the city’s sports heritage at Wrigley Field and its charming LGBTQ+ neighborhood, Boys Town, making Chicago a must-visit destination for travelers.

Jul 2, 2024 • 1h 3min
Louisville, Kentucky
On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys luxuriate in Louisville. From exploring hidden walkways to throwing back some bourbon—plus a quick stop to honor The Colonel—Ryan and Kiernan are officially Kentucky converts. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: 21C Museum Hotel https://www.21cmuseumhotels.com/louisville/ The Brown Hotel https://www.brownhotel.com/ The Hot Brown https://www.gotolouisville.com/blog/hot-brown/ Louisville Historic Tours https://louisvillehistorictours.com/ Conrad-Caldwell House https://www.conradcaldwell.org/ Louisville’s Olmsted Parks https://louisvilleky.gov/government/louisville-loop/olmsted-parkways Cave Hill Cemetery https://www.cavehillcemetery.com/ Belle of Louisville Riverboat https://www.belleoflouisville.org/ Louisville Slugger Museum https://www.sluggermuseum.com/ Frazier History Museum https://www.fraziermuseum.org/ Speed Art Museum https://www.speedmuseum.org/ Proof on Main https://proofonmain.com/ The Silver Dollar https://www.whiskeybythedrink.com/ 610 Magnolia https://610magnolia.com/ Garage Bar https://garageonmarket.com/ Butchertown Grocery Bakery https://www.gotolouisville.com/directory/butchertown-grocery-bakery/ Chik’n & Mi https://www.chiknandmi.com/ Muth’s Candies https://muthscandy.com/ Mile Wide Beer Co. https://milewidebeer.com/

Jun 18, 2024 • 1h
Mammoth Cave National Park
On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys put on their hard hats, light their lanterns, and head underground! Ryan and Kiernan are fresh back from Mammoth Cave National Park in Kentucky—the largest cave system in the world! They have tales to tell about secret subterranean rivers, folksy rangers, and gypsum flowers that take eons to grow. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Mammoth Cave National Park https://www.nps.gov/maca/index.htm The Cave Wars https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/the-kentucky-cave-wars.htm Stephen Bishop https://www.nps.gov/people/stephen-bishop.htm George Morrison https://www.nps.gov/people/george-morrison.htm Floyd Collins https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/tragedy-at-sand-cave.htm Frozen Niagra https://www.nps.gov/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=335A7FB9-AA3A-4D2E-A446-C2F15F29DE5E Historical Tour https://www.nps.gov/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=3CDB5B65-5954-49BB-A2FE-AEA32F56FC03 Gothic Avenue Tour https://www.greatamericanhikes.com/post/gothic-avenue-tour-in-mammoth-cave-national-park Grand Avenue Tour https://www.alittletour.com/2017/06/01/grand-avenue-tour-mammoth-cave-kentucky/ All Tours https://www.nps.gov/maca/planyourvisit/cave-tours.htm Book Tours here https://recreation.gov/ticket/facility/234640 Cave City https://cavecity.com/ Wigwam Village https://historicwigwamvillage.com/

Jun 11, 2024 • 1h 10min
Richmond, Virginia (Return Trip)
This week on “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” we revisit the November 2022 episode on Richmond, Virginia. It was Ryan and Kiernan's first overnight trip together (staying in separate hotels, of course)! They discuss museums, historic homes, graves, Presidents, and plenty about the Civil War. They also share their restaurant recommendations and uncover a standout hidden treasure in a National Park! The American Civil War Museum https://acwm.org/ Virginia Museum of Fine Arts https://vmfa.museum John Marshall House https://preservationvirginia.org/historic-sites/john-marshall-house/ Hollywood Cemetery https://www.hollywoodcemetery.org/ Maggie Walker House https://www.nps.gov/mawa/index.htm Society of Cincinnati https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_the_Cincinnati Virginia State Capitol http://virginiacapitol.gov/index.php/tours/ Statue of George Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_George_Washington_(Houdon) James Madison’s Montpelier https://www.montpelier.org/ Paul Jennings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Jennings_(slave) Eater’s Richmond List https://dc.eater.com/maps/best-bars-restaurants-bakeries-richmond-dining-guide Barcode https://www.barcoderva.com/ Triple Crossing Brewery https://triplecrossing.com/ Emily Dickinson’s House https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/arts/design/emily-dickinson-museum-renovation.html

May 28, 2024 • 51min
Flight Attendant Secrets
On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan chats with “Jade,” a flight attendant for a US airline, about the high-flying lifestyle and her biggest traveler pet peeves. Recorded in-person in Boston, Ryan also complains about the Logan Airport Uber Pickup experience. Things we talk about in this week’s episode: Michelin in Mexico: https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/tags/Mexico

May 14, 2024 • 1h 4min
Guatemala
On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan leads us through highlights from his trip to Guatemala—museums of Guatemala City, the pyramids (and howler monkeys!) of Tikal National Park, Antigua volcano hikes, and the part-devil/part-saint of Lake Atitlan. Plus, LOTS OF GORY CATHOLIC STUFF! Things we talk about in this week’s episode: The Rick Steves Guide to Life https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2024/04/29/rick-steves-home-partner-philanthropy-washington/ US State Department Guatemala Safety Information https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Guatemala.html Brief History of Guatemala’s complicated political history and civil war https://cja.org/where-we-work/guatemala/ Palacio Nacional de la Cultura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Palace_(Guatemala) Museo Ixchel https://museoixchel.org/en/museo-ixchel-english/ Museo Miraflores https://www.museomiraflores.org.gt/ Museo Nacional de Arqueologia y Etnologia https://sig.muniguate.com/proyectosDIGM/cultura/museos/MUSEOS/Arqueolog%C3%ADa%20y%20Etnolog%C3%ADa.html Tikal National Park https://www.tikalnationalpark.org/ Antigua https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigua_Guatemala Santa Catalina Archi https://theculturetrip.com/central-america/guatemala/articles/a-brief-history-of-antiguas-santa-catalina-arch Convento de las Capuchinas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iglesia_y_Convento_de_las_Capuchinas,_Antigua_Guatemala Efrain Recinos sculpture park https://intothearmsofamerica.com/destinations/guatemala/antigua/the-little-museum-up-in-the-antigua-hills/ Lake Atitlan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Atitl%C3%A1n Maximon https://atitlanliving.com/guatemala-travel-information/how-to-visit-a-cofradia-in-santiago/ Michelin Star Analysis https://www.chefspencil.com/michelin-dining-costs-analysis/ Your iPhone’s Hidden Noise Machine https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/iphone-tips-tricks/