

Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast
A Travel Podcast
Out of Office is a travel podcast hosted by us, Ryan Davis and Kiernan Schmitt. From early childhood, we were each infected with a serious case of wanderlust (among other things.)
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
We define travel broadly, from local day trips to high-flyin’ overseas adventures. Every episode, we dig into one topic—ranging from the serious to the silly, the practical to the outlandish—and give advice on how to get out there and explore the world.
Episodes
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Jan 18, 2022 • 32min
Traveling to See Wildlife
On this week’s episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan offers some hard-won tips on how to increase your chances of seeing wildlife when traveling to wild places—and how to mitigate your disappointment if you don’t get to spot that elusive bear, moose, or gorilla. Be forewarned: somehow it boils down to taking an interest in poop. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Sample National Park Wildlife List https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/nature/upload/Mammal-Checklist-2016-web.pdf Illinois Woman Charged in Yellowstone https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/news/211007.htm “The Rescue” Documentary https://films.nationalgeographic.com/the-rescue Wilderness Press “Walking” Series https://shop.adventurewithkeen.com/?s=walking&post_type=product

Jan 8, 2022 • 43min
2022 Travel Resolutions
On this week’s episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan each share 3 travel-related New Year’s resolutions in reverse order of ambition. Plus, an analysis of a new Rick Steves’s interview about the Great Europeans Outdoors! Things we talked about in today’s podcast: “How Rick Steves Got Hooked on Hiking” in Outside Magazine https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/hiking-and-backpacking/rick-steves-hiking-mont-blanc/ National capitals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_capitals New River Gorge https://www.nps.gov/neri/index.htm Jonglez “Secret” guides https://jonglezpublishing.com/product-category/secret-guides/ “Unsettling Truth about the ‘Mostly Harmless’ Hiker” in WIRED https://www.wired.com/story/unsettling-truth-mostly-harmless-hiker/ “Pompeii Still Has Buried Secrets” in the New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/11/29/pompeii-still-has-buried-secrets?source=search_google_dsa_paid&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_c-OBhDFARIsAIFg3exm9hMVCb-4PWiMylwJ7nVJjve_WwCEnq5nJ5lRchfjrZOdadO59YwaAn8gEALw_wcB

Dec 22, 2021 • 50min
Christmas Spectacular Four
On this year’s Christmas Spectacular episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan make themselves merry exploring Victorian Christmas traditions, why pet dogs get stockings and pet cats don’t, and whether fireplaces are integral to Christmas celebrations. Plus, Ryan talks about two Hudson River Valley historic home tours and the boys wrap things up with their annual Ugly Christmas Ornament Exchange. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Glenview Historic Home https://www.hrm.org/glenview/ Armour-Stiner Octagon House https://www.armourstiner.com/ Tomie DePaola’s Christmas Tree Book https://www.amazon.com/Tomie-dePaolas-Christmas-Tree-Book/dp/0823442381 Rent’s “Christmas Bells” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVcUkol3Eg Banu Gibson’s “I’d Like to Hitch a Ride with Santa Claus” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZBpJOd9iY4 Ryan’s ornament https://www.etsy.com/listing/1096328209/penis-snowflake-ornament?source=aw&utm_source=affiliate_window&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=us_location_buyer&utm_content=652045&awc=6220_1639615067_263b2ecb8085222918f9e35a0534832c&utm_term=0 Kiernan’s ornament https://oldworldchristmas.com/products/santa-with-face-mask-ornament?gclid=Cj0KCQiA5OuNBhCRARIsACgaiqXlQPMrfRgOUO_OWa_F2Mt9MBTX5Zj72WNC3Thdbt4z1mMPxOqyagoaAur9EALw_wcB

Dec 16, 2021 • 56min
Mexico City Updates
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan makes his first return trip to Mexico City in nearly 2 years and shares his top new restaurants, bars, and Covid decontamination chambers. Plus, Titian! Previous CDMX episodes: Numero Unohttps://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-18-ryans-12-favorite-mexico-city-spots/ Numero Doshttps://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-52-mexico-city-part-dos/ Elena Reygadas - Queen of CDMX Dining Scene Her Personal Insta: https://www.instagram.com/elena_reygadas Salon Rosetta: https://www.instagram.com/salonrosetta/ Pizzeria Lardo: https://www.instagram.com/pizzeria_lardo/ Brunch at Lardo: https://lardo.mx/ Maximo Bistrot https://www.maximobistrot.com.mx/ Galanga (Galanga Thai House) https://galangathai.mx/ The Prom https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Video-First-Look-at-THE-PROM-Spanish-Language-Production-in-Mxico-20211109 Em https://www.itsemilia.rest/ Anónimo Don’t go to the one in Polanco! https://www.instagram.com/anonimo.rest/ Taverna http://taverna.mx/ New Order: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Order_(film) Titian: Women, Myth, and Power: https://www.gardnermuseum.org/calendar/exhibition/women-myth-power

Nov 18, 2021 • 52min
Gothic Cathedrals 101
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan really Catholic it up talking about the art and architecture of Europe’s Gothic Cathedrals. The boys talk through what features distinguish Gothic architecture, how the Church taught the catechism to the illiterate, and how many groin vaults Ryan has buttressed. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Rick Steves in the NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/30/travel/rick-steves-europe-tours.html Gothic Architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_architecture San-Chapelle in Paris http://www.sainte-chapelle.fr/en/# The Blood Relic in Bruges, Belgium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_of_the_Holy_Blood The Last Duel https://www.20thcenturystudios.com/movies/the-last-duel Tomie DePaola https://www.tomie.com/

Oct 28, 2021 • 48min
Salem, MA and the Witch Trials
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan gets into the Halloween spirit with a guide to Salem, MA, a town famous for its 1692 witch trials. Today, you can visit lots of attractions tied to this tragic history, as well as majestic old homes, National Park-protected maritime areas, sites tied to Nathaniel Hawthorne, and a statue erected by TV Land commemorating the classic sitcom “Bewitched.” In its mixture of dark history and kitschy fun, Salem is a unique must-visit. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Day of the Dead episode https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/day-of-the-dead-d%C3%ADa-de-los-muertos/id1438098925?i=1000496703513 Peabody Essex Museum https://www.pem.org/ Salem Heritage Trail https://www.salem.org/blog/heritage-trail/ Salem Maritime National Historic Site https://www.nps.gov/sama/index.htm Witch History Museum https://salemwitchmuseum.com/ Witch Dungeon Museum http://www.witchdungeon.com/witchdungeon.html Bewitched Statue https://www.salem.org/listing/bewitched-statue/ Witch House/Corwin House https://www.thewitchhouse.org/ McIntire Historic District and the Ropes Mansion https://www.pem.org/visit/historic-houses/mcintire-historic-district Hamilton Hall https://www.hamiltonhall.org/ Old Burying Point Cemetery https://www.salem.org/listing/charter-street-cemetery/ Salem Witch Trials Memorial https://salemwitchmuseum.com/locations/witch-trials-memorial/ Proctor’s Ledge Memorial https://salemwitchmuseum.com/locations/proctors-ledge-memorial/ House of the Seven Gables https://7gables.org/ Salem Common https://www.salem.org/listing/salem-common/ Roger Conant Statue https://digitalheritage.noblenet.org/salem/items/show/29 Catland Witch Shop in Bushwick NYC https://www.catlandbooks.com/ The Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, CO https://www.stanleyhotel.com/

Oct 12, 2021 • 42min
Top Olmsted Picks
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys return to discussing one of Ryan’s personal heroes: the landscape architect Frederick Law Olmsted. They discuss Olmsted’s signature style, how his family cashed in on the family name, and 8 top Olmsted designs outside of the world famous Central Park. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Ryan’s interview with a renowned Olmsted biographer https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-101-the-travels-of-frederick-law-olmsted/ Olmsted 200 https://olmsted200.org/ Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site https://www.nps.gov/frla/learn/management/index.htm Biltmore in Asheville, NC https://www.biltmore.com/blog/olmsteds-deliberate-approach/ Back Bay Fens in Boston, MA https://www.emeraldnecklace.org/park-overview/back-bay-fens/ US Capitol Grounds in Washington D.C. https://www.aoc.gov/explore-capitol-campus/buildings-grounds/capitol-building/capitol-grounds Hubbard Park in Meriden, CT https://www.myrecordjournal.com/Archive/2015/11/ColumnJWK-rj-111315 Prospect Park in Brooklyn https://www.prospectpark.org/learn-more/park-history-slideshow/ Belle Isle in Detroit, MI https://www.modeldmedia.com/features/belle-isle-olmsted-legacy-041816.aspx Congress Park in Saratoga Springs, NY https://www.saratoga.com/hotspots/congress-park/ Olmsted NYC Restaurant http://olmstednyc.com/ Rick Steves Interview in the New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/rick-steves-says-hold-on-to-your-travel-dreams

Sep 23, 2021 • 50min
Montreal and Quebec City 2021
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan brings us back to Quebec City and Montreal in our first ever follow-up travel guide episode. Ryan recommends great new bars and restaurants, along with some old standbys and natural wonders. And don’t worry: there’s plenty of French names to be massacred. Montreal Episode: https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-69-montreal/ Quebec City Episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/qu%C3%A9bec-city/id1438098925?i=1000463905461 Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec https://www.mnbaq.org/ Lévis Forts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9vis_Forts Montmorency Fallshttps://www.sepaq.com/destinations/parc-chute-montmorency/ Little Burgundy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Burgundy September Cafe https://www.septembersurf.com/ - Vin Mon Lapin Until November - The Infinite: https://phi.ca/en/exhibitions/the-infinite-montreal/ Lachine Canal National Historic Site https://www.pc.gc.ca/fr/lhn-nhs/qc/canallachine Sam Knight’s “New Yorker” article on the British National Trust and its grappling with a history of slavery and empire https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/08/23/britains-idyllic-country-houses-reveal-a-darker-history

Aug 31, 2021 • 52min
Portland, Maine
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan talks about his favorite New England neighbor: Portland, Maine! Portland offers gorgeous seaside walks, standout restaurants, and plenty of historical and cultural must-dos. Portland is also heaven for the discerning beer-enthusiast. Plus, National Park conspiracies! Things We Talked About: Quebec City podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/qu%C3%A9bec-city/id1438098925?i=1000463905461 Smithsonian National Postal Museum interview https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smithsonian-national-postal-museum-with-director/id1438098925?i=1000438061317 Holy Donut https://theholydonut.com/ Duckfat https://www.duckfat.com/ Hugo’s https://www.hugosmaine.com/ Eventide https://www.eventideoysterco.com/ Eventide Cookbook https://www.eventideoysterco.com/shop/eventide-cookbook The Honey Paw https://www.thehoneypaw.com/ Izakaya Minato https://www.izakayaminato.com/ Nura https://www.nuraportland.com/ Longfellow Books https://www.longfellowbooks.com/ Allagash Brewing Company https://www.allagash.com/ Bissell Brothers https://bissellbrothers.com/ Oxbow Blending and Bottling https://oxbowbeer.com/ Austin Street Brewery https://www.austinstreetbrewery.com/ Lone Pine Brewing Company https://lonepinebrewery.com/ Goodfire Brewing https://www.goodfirebrewing.com/ Breakwater Lighthouse/Bug Light https://www.visitportland.com/blog/2020/03/11/bug-light-park/ Choragic Monument of Lysicrates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choragic_Monument_of_Lysicrates Portland Freedom Trail https://www.mainehistory.org/PDF/walkingtourmap.pdf Eastern Promenade https://easternpromenade.org/the-eastern-promenade Eastern Promenade Olmsted plan https://www.portlandmaine.gov/DocumentCenter/View/3377/Eastern-Promenade-Master-Plan Maine Narrow Gauge Railroad https://mainenarrowgauge.org/ West End https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_End_(Portland,_Maine) Peak’s Island ferry https://www.cascobaylines.com/schedules/peaks-island-schedule/ Peak’s Island https://www.cascobaylines.com/islands/peaks-island-maine/ Casco Bay Mail Boat https://www.cascobaylines.com/maine-boat-tours/specialty-cruises/mailboat/ The Missing 411 National Park conspiracy episode https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4794 Milk Street’s Sweet Corn Cake https://www.177milkstreet.com/recipes/mexican-sweet-corn-cake

Aug 17, 2021 • 49min
100 Years of the Appalachian Trail
On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan interviews journalist Steve Holt on the 100 year history of the Appalachian Trail, from the luminaries that conceived it to the conservationists protecting it today. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: Quebec episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/qu%C3%A9bec-city/id1438098925?i=1000463905461 An Idea Turns 100: A Photo History of the Appalachian Trail: https://www.outdoors.org/resources/amc-outdoors/history/an-idea-turns-100-a-photo-history-of-the-appalachian-trail/ Steve Holt https://www.outdoors.org/resources/amc-outdoors/author/sholt/ Appalachian Mountain Club https://www.outdoors.org/about/ Appalachian Trail Conservancy https://appalachiantrail.org/ Dartmouth’s Rauner Library https://www.dartmouth.edu/library/rauner/ The Trouble History of Inclusion in American Outdoor Spaces https://www.outdoors.org/resources/amc-outdoors/history/the-troubled-history-of-inclusion-in-american-outdoor-spaces/ Ryan’s Delaware Water Gap Hike https://www.nps.gov/dewa/planyourvisit/appalachian-nst.htm Kiernan’s Bear Mountain Hike https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/connecticut/appalachian-trail-bear-mountain-to-race-brook-falls