

Learning Uncut
Michelle Ockers
Learning Uncut is about real conversations around real learning solutions and real experiences with real advice from real people.
We’re all about keeping it “real.”
Here’s an overview of our approach:
Strategy and tactics. We want to unpack the strategy and how-to’s of creating great learning solutions, frameworks and teams.
CONVERSATIONS, NOT SCRIPTED DISCUSSION
Our podcasts are professional but not so edited and polished that they lose their authenticity. We want our audience to hear real people having real conversations and sharing real examples and advice.
PROGRESSIVE
We want to showcase the “unsung L&D heroes” out there doing great work, being brave and trying new things.
PRACTICAL
We invite our guests to share tips and strategies to help listeners take their solutions to the next level. We aim to provide actionable takeaways for our listeners through show notes, links and downloads wherever possible.
We’re all about keeping it “real.”
Here’s an overview of our approach:
Strategy and tactics. We want to unpack the strategy and how-to’s of creating great learning solutions, frameworks and teams.
CONVERSATIONS, NOT SCRIPTED DISCUSSION
Our podcasts are professional but not so edited and polished that they lose their authenticity. We want our audience to hear real people having real conversations and sharing real examples and advice.
PROGRESSIVE
We want to showcase the “unsung L&D heroes” out there doing great work, being brave and trying new things.
PRACTICAL
We invite our guests to share tips and strategies to help listeners take their solutions to the next level. We aim to provide actionable takeaways for our listeners through show notes, links and downloads wherever possible.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 19, 2020 • 58min
64: Adopting Growth Mindset in an Organisation – Katrina Moss
Katrina Moss, the Learning Acceleration Lead at Shopify, discusses her work to embed growth mindset across the organisation. Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/64/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series

Oct 5, 2020 • 59min
63: Game Mechanics for Learning in Lockdown – Sunder Ramachandran
Sunder Ramachandran is the Head of Selling Excellence for India at GSK, a global healthcare company. His team supports the development of sales and marketing capability in India. We discuss how his team sustained employee engagement during lockdown, in parallel with building sales capability and enabling leaders to adapt to the online environment. Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/63/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series

Sep 30, 2020 • 57min
Emergent Series: New Structures for L&D Teams– Krystal Irving and Harold Jarche
This episode is part of the Learning Uncut Emergent series where we talk about rapidly changing business models, and how Learning and Development can support organisations to adapt. Exploring how learning professionals can emerge from disruption as relevant and effective. Krystal Irving is the Always Learning Experience Squad Manager at ANZ Bank in Australia. Sounds different? It is different. ANZ has reorganised their L&D function to an Agile function and ways of working. Harold Jarche, a freelancer who focuses on sense-making in networks, we explore why traditional organisation structures are unfit for contemporary complex challenges and the alternatives for L&D teams. Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/emergent-series-17/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series

Sep 28, 2020 • 1h 19min
Emergent Series: The Skills Economy - Simon Tindall and Simon Gibson
This episode is part of the Learning Uncut Emergent series where we talk about rapidly changing business models, and how Learning and Development can support organizations to adapt. Exploring how learning professionals can emerge from disruption as relevant and effective. The World Economic Forum states that by 2022 no less than 54% of all employees will require significant reskilling and upskilling. Will the workplace be prepared? Simon Tindall and Simon Gibson discuss the importance of adapting employees’ skills and roles to a post-COVID future and the ways of working that will be crucial to building a strength-based organization. They address how organizations are preparing to adapt and how L&D can review how they gather information about job skills and capabilities. Host: Shannon Tipton Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/emergent-series-16/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series

Sep 21, 2020 • 58min
62: Digital Skills Uplift at PwC - Luke Warwick
PwC has taken a global approach to digital skills uplift in a well-designed change initiative. Luke Warwick, a digital change consultant leading the implementation of PwC’s Australian digital transformation, discusses the imperative to lift digital skills and describes how this is being done. This is also a great example of building a learning culture through an organisational-wide change initiative. Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/62/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series

Sep 16, 2020 • 52min
Emergent Series: Smarter working partnerships for L&D– Barbara Thompson and Shai Desai
This episode is part of the Learning Uncut Emergent series where we talk about rapidly changing business models, and how Learning and Development can support organisations to adapt. Exploring how learning professionals can emerge from disruption as relevant and effective. During disruption, L&D teams have been stretched: time has been tighter, resources leaner and demands more extreme. Barbara Thompson and Shai Desai join Laura Overton to explore how we can work smarter and more transparently with those who are around us to respond better to business demand. They uncover the practical do’s and don’t of working effectively with partners to support performance and how our partners can help us leverage capabilities beyond our own. Host: Laura Overton Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/emergent-series-15/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series

Sep 14, 2020 • 59min
Emergent Series: The Rise of Technology and L&D - Stella Collins and Dani Johnson
This episode is part of the Learning Uncut Emergent series where we talk about rapidly changing business models, and how Learning and Development can support organizations to adapt. Exploring how learning professionals can emerge from disruption as relevant and effective. Stella Collins and Dani Johnson discuss the important effects technology has within the L&D industry, understanding that technology has both tangible and intangible benefits that can help the L&D industry move forward during this time of uncertainty. Host: Shannon Tipton Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/emergent-series-14/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series

Sep 7, 2020 • 58min
61: Leading Learning Transformation – Damien Woods
Damien Woods discusses the transformation of learning underway at National Australia Bank (NAB) over the past two and a half years. We discuss the key pillars of the NAB learning strategy, the importance of having a vision for learning, gaining buy-in and building the capability of the Learning and Development team. Damien describes how the shifts that had been made since 2018 equipped the team to help the organisation quickly pivot and upskill people to move into areas of high demand at the start of the pandemic, as well as redesign learning for the online environment. Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/61/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series

Sep 2, 2020 • 50min
Emergent Series: New priorities for L&D Capability– Michelle Ockers and Sebastian Tindall
This episode is part of the Learning Uncut Emergent series where we talk about rapidly changing business models, and how Learning and Development can support organisations to adapt. Exploring how learning professionals can emerge from disruption as relevant and effective. One definition of capability is ‘the power to generate an outcome with the capacity/ ability available’. In this episode, Michelle Ockers and Sebastian Tindall engage in a far-reaching discussion on the skills, capacity, and yes, capability, of L&D today and how this needs to adapt in order for L&D to emerge stronger from disruption. Host: Laura Overton Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/emergent-series-13/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series

Aug 31, 2020 • 1h 1min
Emergent Series: Connecting the dots on data for L&D – Trish Uhl and Kevin M. Yates
This episode is part of the Learning Uncut Emergent series where we talk about rapidly changing business models, and how Learning and Development can support organisations to adapt. Exploring how learning professionals can emerge from disruption as relevant and effective. Digital transformation has been underway for quite some time. Data is part of the business ecosystem in which L&D operates. Where do the opportunities lie for L&D to use the stream of data to improve decisions and increase impact? Practical examples and future possibilities to help L&D professionals connect the dots on using data. Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/emergent-series-12/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ Emergent: Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/?podcast_series=emergent-series