
No Such Thing: Education in the Digital Age
The show is about learning with technology, the realities and exciting potential.Enjoying the show? Please take a moment to rate us, and leave a review wherever you've accessed the podcast. Find our listener survey at facebook.com/nosuchthingpodcast drop a like on the page while you're there.The music in this podcast was produced by Leroy Tindy, a guest in episode zero. You can find him on SoundCloud at AirTindi Beats.The podcast is produced by Marc Lesser. Marc is a specialist in the fields of digital learning and youth development with broad experience designing programming and learning environments in local and national contexts. Marc recently served as Youth Studies Practitioner Fellow at City University of New York, and leads a team of researchers and technologists for NAF (National Academy Foundation).Marc is the co-founder of Emoti-Con NYC, New York's biggest youth digital media and technology festival, and in 2012 was named a National School Boards Association “20-to-Watch” among national leaders in education and technology. Connect with Marc on BlueSky @malesser, or LinkedIn.What's with the ice cream truck in the logo? In the 80's, Richard E. Clark at University of Southern California set off a pretty epic debate based on his statement that "media are mere vehicles that deliver instruction but do not influence student achievement any more than the truck that delivers our groceries causes changes in nutrition." * So, the ice cream truck, it's a nod to Richard Clark, who frequently rings in my ear when I'm tempted to take things at face value. "Is it the method, or the medium?" I wonder.The title, No Such Thing, has a few meanings. Mostly, it emphasizes the importance of hard questions as we develop and document the narrative of "education" in the US. For Richard E. Clark, the question is whether there's such a thing as learning from new technologies. For others, it might be whether there's a panacea for the challenges we face in this field. Whatever your question, I hope that it reminds you to keep asking--yourself, your learners, others--what's working and how so.* Clark, R. E. (1983) Reconsidering Research on Learning From Media. Review of Educational Research 53(4) 445-459. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Oct 11, 2019 • 50min
Career Prep (In Middle School?)
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Aug 22, 2019 • 1h 4min
From an Unlikely CA Zipcode, A Digital Nest Emerges
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Jul 26, 2019 • 1h 23min
Onramps to Computer Science
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Jul 12, 2019 • 42min
A Research and Tech Unboxing
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Jun 25, 2019 • 1h 12min
Human Centered Learning Experience Design
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Jun 13, 2019 • 24min
Recommended Resources for Maker Educators
Here's a cool episode for you. Before I get started let's talk about these tracks. It's easy to overlook, when we talk about Maker Ed, that a lot of the greatest maker educators I know are makers themselves. Lou Lahana is also known on the interwebs as Techbrarian, and he wrote and produced tracks at the beginning and end of this episode. He's a great inspiration to remind us all, as Tasker Smith from MIT reminds us in this episode - we need stay inspired...consider it like facing turbulence on an airplane...put the mask on ourselves first.It's a different format: in this episode I reached out and asked some of my favorite Maker Educators to send me recordings where they just jam into the mic a bit about resources that they often recommend to other educators, or folks just interested in what they do. I'm so grateful to a rockstar group of five featured in this episode, and hope that we can make it a more regular thing. My thanks (in the order that you hear from them) to:Lori Stahl-VanBrackal: linkedin.com/in/lori-stahl-van-brackleTasker Smith: linkedin.com/in/taskersmithJennifer Latimer: linkedin.com/in/jennifer-latimer-31219b6Dr. Matthew Farber: linkedin.com/in/mattfarberDr. Lou Lahana: Techbrarian.comLinks from this episode:Innovators Mindset, George Couros: https://www.amazon.com/Innovators-Mindset-Empower-Learning-Creativity-ebook/dp/B016YTBZKOLaser Cutters (Universal Systems): https://www.ulsinc.com/Make Magazine: https://makezine.com/Instructibles: https://www.instructables.com/Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/Prototyping Library: http://prototypinglibrary.com/Epilogue Laser Sample Club: https://www.epiloglaser.com/resources/sample-club.htmInvent to Learn, Martinez and Stager: https://inventtolearn.com/Connecting Gaming, Kafai and Burke: http://www.yasminkafai.com/connected-gamingAdBusters: https://www.adbusters.org/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 5, 2019 • 1h 32min
College Admissions - Beyond Headlines
My guests are experts in this space that you wouldn’t have seen quoted in recent coverage but maybe should’ve. Davin Sweeney is an independent college counselor with Collegwise who worked for ten years as an admissions counselor at the University of Rochester. He also hosts a podcast called “The Crush” featuring interviews with people who have interesting perspectives to share on the college and college admissions landscape. Leia Petty is a HS Guidance Counselor of ten years and social justice activist living in Brooklyn, NY. And Luke Nonas-Hunter is a high school senior in NYC's High School for Math Science and Engineering, recently released from the arduous process of college admissions - he'll be a freshman at Olin College in September.My guests are experts in this space that you wouldn’t have seen quoted in recent coverage but maybe should’ve.Links from this episode:Doug Webber on The Crush: https://www.crushpodcast.com/doug-webber-2/Mark Moody, The Myth of Fit: https://msquaredcollegecounselor.wordpress.com/What was that test in China? The Gaokao: https://www.businessinsider.com/sample-questions-from-chinas-gaokao-one-of-worlds-toughest-tests-2018-6Dr. Wayne Au: https://www.uwb.edu/education/about/faculty/wayneauFairtest.org - list of test-optional colleges: http://fairtest.org/John Bockenstedt - Higher Ed Data Stories: https://highereddatastories.blogspot.com/In the NewsLink, New York Times: Operation Varsity BluesLink: HuffPost Stanford Accepts No One: Just to be clear: Bruni’s column was satire, a jokey riff about how colleges and universities take outsize pride in trumpeting how many applicants they reject. In reality, Stanford announced last week that 2,063 high school students have been admitted to the class of 2020, giving the Bay Area school an acceptance rate of 4.69 percent — not zero percent. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 17, 2019 • 59min
Discussing Women of Computer History
A discussion with Kate McGregor of Mountain View’s Computer History Museum about women we should all know from computer history.Kate McGregor: Kate is a STE(A)M advocate, museum educator, content developer and curriculum designer striving to help students, families and educators to explore concepts of problem-solving and innovation through the lenses of computer science and computer history, with activities that encourage critical thinking, collaboration, communication and creativity. At the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California, Kate manages Family & Community guided and self-guided programming, events and activities for diverse intergenerational audiences. She leads the Museum’s efforts to expand program offerings through onsite and offsite family and community programming, in order to create meaningful points of engagement for visitors of all ages, backgrounds and knowledge bases. Kate developed and leads the Museum’s flagship Design_Code_Build program which engages middle school youth from all parts of the community.From their website:The Computer History Museum is a nonprofit organization with a four-decade history as the world’s leading institution exploring the history of computing and its ongoing impact on society. The Museum is dedicated to the preservation and celebration of computer history and is home to the largest international collection of computing artifacts in the world, encompassing computer hardware, software, documentation, ephemera, photographs, oral histories, and moving images.Links from this episode:Computer History Museum: https://www.computerhistory.org/COBAL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOLReshma Saujani: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reshma_SaujaniWoGrammer: https://wogrammer.org/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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