

0800-DEVOPS
Ivan Krnic
0800-DEVOPS is a sociotechnical podcast exploring technical excellence, organizational improvements, and productivity. Join your host Ivan Krnic (@ikrnic) as he talks with industry experts, book authors, and thought leaders to demystify what successful organizations do differently and pay attention as his guests provide practical advice to set you on the road to success!Subscribe to the 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here https://croz.net/community/0800-devops/
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Mar 25, 2023 • 40min
Auditing with agility with Clarissa Lucas
Clarissa Lucas is IT Audit Director, speaker, and book author. I loved talking to her because, for most of my professional career, I was dealing with the technical aspects of delivering software solutions. And I remember many times I was freaking out because I saw that "we", the technical people, and "they", the non-technical people, were not aligned on how we delivered software. Clarissa comes from that other side of the fence and is working hard to achieve the alignment of delivery and audit. We talked about auditing with agility and tearing down the fence between delivery teams and auditors.Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #46 - Auditing with agility with Clarissa Lucas.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](01:16)Introduction(02:36)What is the role of Audit? (06:18)How is audit traditionally performed in enterprise organizations? (12:38)A different way of collaborating with delivery teams (16:58)Modern software development practices vs. traditional audit approach (21:08)CABs and manual checks (28:03)Advice on getting Audit people on-board with process improvements (30:20)Understanding the Audit perspective (walk in their shoes) (33:40)The upcoming book "Beyond Agile Auditing" (37:11)Book recommendations, people to followText me what you think.

Feb 26, 2023 • 45min
Automating and scaling security with Glenn Wilson
Glenn Wilson is CTO and founder at Dynaminet, book author, and speaker. After reading his book “DevSecOps” and some other security-related material and talking to several people in the industry, I think security is finally the next bottleneck that organizations must solve, especially those in highly-regulated environments. I spoke with Glenn about automating Change Advisory Boards and scaling security skills in an organization.Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #45 - Automating and scaling security with Glenn Wilson.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](0:53)Intro(4:00)Is security getting the attention it deserves today?(6:42)Organizations in highly-regulated environments(10:58)Automation as a solution(15:54)Change Advisory Boards(26:27)Segregation of duties(33:55)Scaling security skills in the organization(42:30)Book recommendations, people to followText me what you think.

Jan 30, 2023 • 38min
The Engineering/Management Pendulum with Charity Majors
Charity Majors is CTO and co-founder at Honeycomb, book author, speaker, and a person unselfishly sharing her views and lessons from both leadership and engineering perspective. I talked to Charity about engineering management and platform engineering, how long you should sharpen your technical saw before thinking about a management role, and whether it is ok for managers to feel useless sometimes :)Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #44 - The Engineering/Management Pendulum with Charity Majors.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](6:37)"The greatest technologists in the world that I know have all done some time as managers. They all have that skill set. But they are never too far away, never too many years removed from being an IC themselves, because there is wisdom you get from dealing with the technology that you can't get from sitting several layers away."(11:55)"As a manager, you can't make decisions in a vacuum the way you could as an engineer. There is no such thing as a good decision independent of other people because all decisions involve other people."(18:14)"Engineers don't typically go, "I'm done with coding forever. I wanna be a manager ". They want to try things. They want to go back and forth. Most organizations haven't figured out how to incentivize this or how to support people in doing it."(18:55)"You want to optimize not for people becoming more powerful in one role but for them staying curious and engaged."(23:10)"Management is just a bunch of skills. People don't have to become managers in order to learn those skills."(25:35)"People should have some agency in what team they want to go to."(29:55)"Platform Engineering is a form of operationally focused software engineering where your customers are internal instead of external."(31:20)"You give them all these tools so they can own their own code in production, not so you can own it for them."(34:52)"The experience of running software is one that has been consistently devalued and marginalized when it comes to software engineering teams. They typically don't give enough respect to just how difficult and traumatic it can be. There is a sense you get from having run big complex systems for a long time. You can sense where the holes are."Text me what you think.

Dec 14, 2022 • 34min
Cloud development environments with Toma Puljak
Toma Puljak is software developer at Codeanywhere, a company that builds cloud IDE and brings Infrastructure-as-code principles to developer workspaces. I spoke with Toma about typical use cases for ephemeral workspaces, trends in the industry, how Big Tech companies solve this problem, and how Toma, after his notebook broke down, worked uninterrupted from his cell phone 🙂Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.Show notes:- This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #43 - Cloud development environments with Toma Puljak[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](01:07) - Intro(02:53) - IaC in local development environments(11:52) - Inner loop vs outer loop(15:50) - Latency(17:11) - Flexibility(19:39) - A regular day for a developer with cloud environment(21:41) - What other organizations do?(24:20) - Are some organizations a better fit?(26:25) - What developers say?(28:58) - Advice on how to start(30:41) - Is future of development in the cloud?Text me what you think.

Nov 22, 2022 • 43min
2022 State of DevOps Report with Nathen Harvey
Nathen Harvey needs little introduction in DevOps community. He is Developer Advocate at Google, co-author of State of DevOps Report and co-author of a great book called “97 Things Every Cloud Engineer Should Know”. We talked about insights and surprises from this year’s State of DevOps Report. And Nathen shared his view on recent hot takes that “DevOps is dead” 🙂Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.Show notes:- 2022 Accelerate State of DevOps Report – The latest Report is out! As always, it’s full of valuable insights with a special focus on software supply chain security and a lot of actionable suggestions on how to start improving in the security domain.- Nathen recommends following the work of John Speed Meyers and Dave Farley. Don't miss Dave's book "Modern Software Engineering".Text me what you think.

Oct 27, 2022 • 23min
Sooner, safer, happier with Jonathan Smart
Jonathan Smart is a business agility practitioner, thought leader, coach, and the author of a bestseller "Sooner Safer Happier". Jon wrote this book based on his vast experience working in enterprises such as Barkleys Bank and Deloitte. I honestly wish I had this book 10 years ago, so many conversations would be much easier back then. Listen to our conversation on delivering Better Value, Sooner, Safer and Happier!Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.Show notes:- This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #41 - Sooner, safer, happier with Jonathan SmartText me what you think.

Sep 22, 2022 • 35min
Digital nudging with Fabio Pereira
Fabio Pereira is a speaker, writer, and technologist dedicated to a very noble cause of raising the digital consciousness in the world. We spoke about digital nudging and the power that organizations building digital products have over our lives. Hint: it’s more than you think!Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.Show notes:- This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #40 - Digital nudging with Fabio Pereira- Fabio recommends: Predictably Irrational, Hooked, Indistractable, Nudge, Thinking Fast and Slow- Bias Codex is a list of known cognitive biases- Center for Humane Technology- Deceptive design patterns (also known as "dark patterns") are tricks used in websites and apps that make you do things that you didn't mean to, like buying or signing up for something.Text me what you think.

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Aug 27, 2022 • 45min
The Value Flywheel Effect with David Anderson
David Anderson, Technical Fellow at Bazaarvoice and former CTO at Liberty Mutual, shares transformative insights from his book, "The Value Flywheel Effect." He highlights the challenges of adopting serverless architecture in traditional organizations and the critical role of a strong vision. Anderson discusses the pitfalls of the build trap in software development and introduces worldly mapping as a tool for team alignment. He also stresses the importance of addressing fears in technology improvements and the value of informed decision-making in cloud architecture.

May 28, 2022 • 57min
DevOps and Governance with Investments Unlimited book co-authors
Investments Unlimited is the latest novel by IT Revolution helping organizations radically rethink how they handle audit, compliance, and security for their software systems. I had a great conversation during DevOps Enterprise Summit Europe 2022 with co-authors Tapabrata “Topo” Pal, Michael Edenzon, John Rzeszotarski, Jason Cox, and Bill Bensing. Listen all about governance in DevOps, how you can automate as much manual work as possible, how to make auditors your best friends, how to win auditors and influence engineers, and much more.Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.Show notes:- DevOps Automated Governance Reference ArchitectureText me what you think.

Apr 13, 2022 • 38min
Systemic coaching in tech organizations with Mish Middelmann
Mish Middelmann is certified leadership and systemic team coach. Mish is a part of Organisation and Relationship Systems Coaching network (better known as ORSC) and he spent a great weekend with my group teaching us how to apply ORSC principles to our daily work. I stole some of his time to talk about systemic coaching in tech organizations.And I learned a valuable lesson – never do an interview with a coach – for every question you throw at them, they will respond with two for you 🙂Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.Show notes:- This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #36 - Systemic coaching in tech orgs with Mish MiddelmannText me what you think.