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Legends don't need introductions, but I'll write a light one, nevertheless. Gene Kim is the author or co-author of many significant books from DevOps space (The Phoenix Project, The Unicorn Project, Accelerate, The DevOps Handbook, to name a few) and the mastermind behind the amazing DevOps Enterprise Summit conference. I spoke with Gene about rewiring our organizations to set them for success.🙌 Help me spread DevOps ideas even further by voting for the 0800-DEVOPS podcast for DevOps Dozen 2023 award in the “4. Best DevOps Related Podcast Series (Audio Only)” category - I truly appreciate it! You can cast your vote here.Please leave a review on your favorite podcast platform or Podchaser, and subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #56 - Wiring the Winning Organization with Gene Kim.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](1:19)DevOps Enterprise Summit conference (4:16)Wiring the Winning Organization (9:06)Three mechanisms of performance (17:24)Layers on which work happens (21:40)The role of leadership (27:29)Advice for change agents (30:59)Present and future of DevOps (37:18)Book recommendationsText me what you think.

Dr. Vladyslav Ukis is Head of R&D at Siemens Healthineers with a strong interest in topics of Software Architecture, Cloud Computing, and Digital Transformation, to name a few. Vlad is also a book author; his book “Establishing SRE Foundations” describes his practical experience in starting the SRE practice. Listen to our conversation on introducing the SRE practice to enterprise organizations.🙌 Help me spread DevOps ideas even further by nominating the 0800-DEVOPS podcast for DevOps Dozen 2023 award in the “Best DevOps Related Podcast Series (Audio Only)” category. Every nomination vote counts and I truly appreciate it! You can submit your nominations by November 3rd here.Please leave a review on your favorite podcast platform or Podchaser, and subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #55 - Establishing SRE Foundations with Vladyslav Ukis.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](1:32)Introduction (2:42)SRE definition (4:35)Drivers for starting with the SRE practice (6:12)Organizational buy-in (8:59)Practical first steps (15:21)Team coaching during SRE transformation (23:35)Setting the right SLOs (28:17)Lessons learned in starting with SRE practice (33:00)Follow recommendationsText me what you think.

This episode is a special one for me since, for the first time, I have a reappearance in the show – my friend Nathen Harvey, the godfather of the DORA community! We talked about the community, the inaugural DORA Summit, and the freshly published 2023 State of DevOps Report. Nathen touched upon a couple of very interesting insights and shared a ton of advice!An interesting insight is about trunk-based development influencing burnout. Community is working hard to explain this so feel free to join the DORA community trunk-based development discussion that is scheduled for Thursday, December 7 at 6PM UTC. Join the DORA Community of Practice for details and an invitation to the discussion.Please leave a review on your favorite podcast platform or Podchaser, and subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #54 - 2023 State of DevOps Report with Nathen Harvey.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](0:00)Introduction (1:18)DORA community (6:49)2023 State of DevOps Report (28:25)DORA research and service organizations (31:21)Accelerate, second edition (34:36)Follow recommendationsText me what you think.

Bryan Finster, Distinguished Engineer at Defense Unicorns, discusses the misuse of metrics in measuring developer productivity, the negative impact of focusing solely on individual contributions, and the importance of measuring what prevents teams from delivering value and improving the bottom line.

Jennifer Petoff is the director of Google Cloud Platform & Technical Infrastructure Education, and a co-editor of a super popular book "Site Reliability Engineering".I met Jennifer at the DevOps Enterprise Summit 2023 conference, where she talked about how each engineer's training needs vary depending on several factors. The talk caught my attention because, let's be honest, who can say that their learning program is so good that they have nothing to learn from Google?People are different and in different stages of their personal and organizational journey, so they also need different kinds of support. Jennifer likes to address these differences with a 2x2 matrix considering industry experience and familiarity with your organization.Sometimes, organizations try to apply a one-size-fits-all approach to all quadrants and wonder why the result is missing. The truth is that each quadrant requires a different learning approach.Listen to my conversation with Dr. J. and learn more about specific techniques for each quadrant.Please leave a review on your favorite podcast platform or Podchaser, and subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #52 - Learning organizations with Jennifer Petoff.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](00:00)Introduction (2:57)What are learning organizations (6:06)Prerequisites for learning organizations (9:07)Getting a management buy-in (13:25)Experience-Familiarity matrix (19:20)Designing a learning program (26:08)RecommendationsText me what you think.

Paul Stovell is the CEO of Octopus Deploy and an industry veteran building the tool supporting agile software development. I spoke with Paul about bottlenecks in the software delivery process today, deployment challenges in hybrid environments, and the future of application release automation. As Paul says, deployment time should be the time of happiness and satisfaction, not the time of fear and anxiety.Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #51 - Agile software development with Paul Stovell.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](0:00)Introduction (5:11)About Octopus Deploy (9:36)Challenges in software delivery today (18:18)The complexity of hybrid environments (22:52)About Governance, Risk and Compliance (25:33)The future of application release automation (28:48)AI and deployment management (33:53)Book recommendationsText me what you think.

Andre Martin has worked in senior roles in charge of learning dynamics and people development in large organizations such as Nike, Target, and Google. Over the years, he distilled all that experience in a book that will be published in September 2023, and it’s called “Wrong Fit, Right Fit.” You might wonder what is a “fit” and what does a wrong one look like? What does the right one look like, and how do we achieve it? Listen to our conversation.Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #50 - Wrong Fit, Right Fit with Andre Martin.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](0:01)Introduction (2:27)Workplaces today(8:06)What is a "fit"? (21:09)Employer Branding (25:18)Can we lose the right fit? (29:03)Keeping the right fit (34:35)Book recommendationsText me what you think.

Manuel Pais is co-author of the book Team Topologies and Eduardo da Silva is a Team Topologies Valued Practitioner. Both are helping organizations improve their ways of working by applying Team Topologies principles. An important part of Team Topologies are Enabling teams. What are Enabling teams? What kind of people do you need in them? What is the ROI on Enabling teams? How do you start with Enabling teams in an organization? Find out in my conversation with Manuel and Eduardo and note that they’re offering a summer discount for all Team Topologies Academy courses.Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #49 - Enabling teams with Manuel Pais and Eduardo da Silva.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](0:01)Introduction (1:05)What are Enabling teams? (3:27)Increasing our chances of Enabling teams improving our organization (12:08)Relationship between Enabling teams and the organization (21:27)Understanding where the organization needs help (29:24)ROI of Enabling teams(39:39)How to sell the idea of Enabling teamsText me what you think.

Bill Bensing is one of the authors of the excellent book Investments Unlimited and has so many fresh ideas on the everlasting challenge of Governance. I talked with Bill about Governance as a Service, collaboration between tech and non-tech people, and tools that make it happen. As Bill says – Governance Engineering is not really about technology engineering. It’s about “good feelings” engineering!Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #48 - Governance Engineering with Bill Bensing.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](0:01)Introduction(3:36)Governance in enterprise organizations today(8:18)Tackling the problem of Governance(16:32)Crossing the chasm with enterprise Governance(20:30)Governance Engineering vs. Platform Engineering(23:45)Ubiquitous language for tech and non-tech people(27:53)Advice on how to start with Governance Engineering(34:06)Where to learn more on Governance EngineeringText me what you think.

Kelsey Hightower is a pragmatic person, in love with technology but never forgetting that technology should always be in the service of humankind. His rational view on the business-technology interplay and scrutinizing approach to finding value in technology restore sanity in this crazy world often driven solely by technology hype cycles. His ability to dissect business problems and break them down to technology fundamentals never ceases to amaze me. We talked about different perspectives of value, how to approach the ever-changing technical landscape, why it is essential to master technical fundamentals, and much more.Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here.This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #47 - Talking about value with Kelsey Hightower.[Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below](00:01)Introduction(00:35)The relationship between technology and business in creating value for the customers(04:48)Is technology moving to fast?(08:05)Are we becoming hype driven?(11:38)How does he assess new technology in terms of value?(15:52)Achieving the balance between business and technology(23:52)A career in tech is about the willingness to learn a different tool when the time comesText me what you think.