
Climb In Consulting
As a management consultant myself I’ve always been lucky to have mentors who have guided me through my career.
When I was in house I regularly had quality time with Senior Partners that helped me rapidly accelerate my career and has continued to help since I’ve gone out on my own.
While I had this great resource and knowledge bank to draw on I know many friends in Consulting aren’t as lucky with some only speaking with senior partners on a monthly or quarterly basis.
That’s why I created this podcast.
I wanted to help people like you who want to accelerate their careers in consulting by interviewing leaders in the field to share the advice, tips and strategies that they used to get to the top so that you can to so that you can too.
In each Episode I’ll be interviewing a senior figure in the industry so that you can learn from them. We’ll be going deep in to their background, how they succeeded and what their advice would be for you.
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Latest episodes

Aug 24, 2018 • 1h 32min
Episode 25 - Matt Rogan - Two Circles
Today’s Guest is Matt Rogan, Matt is chairman and co-founder of Two Circles. Exclusively working with sports rights-holders, Two Circles is part strategy consultancy, part digital agency, and part data and analytics house.
Since co-founding the business in 2011, Two Circles has grown rapidly to a team of 150 people across the UK, North America and Europe.
Following the sale of the majority stake in the business to WPP in 2015, Matt took up the role as Chairman. Supporting and challenging the Two Circles management team to deliver bigger and better results across all areas of the business.
In addition to his role at Two Circles Matt is a published author and has been featured in the likes of the Harvard Business Review and the Journal of Sports Management.
We go in to detail on a whole range of topics in this interview including:
What led Matt and his co-founders to start Two Circles and the structures they put in place to set it up for success.
Leading a ‘millennial’ team and the lessons for anyone looking to grow a young, dynamic organisation.
The importance of process and systems in building a business, even at the start up phase, and how this helped Matt and the team grow rapidly avoiding many of the issues that new businesses face.
How Matt and his co-founders achieved work life balance while leading a rapidly growing business.
What to do if you’re a graduate looking to follow a career in sport.
And much much more!
I really enjoyed this conversation with Matt and took so much away from what he had to say. If you’re looking for clear, practical advice on how to grow your own consulting business or practice area then you’re going to love this interview.
You can find out more about Two Circles at – http://insidetwocircles.com/
You can find out more about Matt on Linked In – https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattrogan/
And Twitter – https://twitter.com/mattrogansport?lang=en
Or drop him an email at Matt.Rogan@insidetwocircles.com
Specific Things We Discuss In the Show:
Lane 4 - https://www.lane4performance.com/
Adrian moorhouse - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Moorhouse
Dom moorhouse - http://dommoorhouse.com/
Greg Searle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Searle
Mastering Soft Skills by Julian Vyner - http://amzn.eu/d/fsSA1L0
Players by Matthew Futterman - http://amzn.eu/d/fDflklv
Managing the professional services firm by David Maister - http://amzn.eu/d/jc9ee62

Aug 17, 2018 • 18min
Episode 24 - Should I leave Consulting?
This episode was the result of a number of conversations I've had recently with people considering leaving their Consulting firm or the industry in general.
While everyone's situation and reasons for wanting a change is unique I believe that there are some common threads that could help anyone considering a career change, be it within Consulting or outside of it.
In this episode I share the advice I've given during these conversations including:
The questions to ask yourself if you're thinking of leaving your Consulting firm
The 'well trodden paths' that people take after consulting and the good and bad of each
The one thing you should do regardless of what you're thinking of doing next
If you're thinking of where to take your career next, I hope this helps.

Aug 12, 2018 • 14min
Episode 23 - Sales and selling - The skill that separates the best from the rest
Of all of the skills that my guests have said are critical to success in Consulting sales, and being able to sell, is one that comes up time and time again.
Both Stephen Newton and Tim Smeaton highlighted it as one of the key skills you should learn early in your career to help accelerate your success. David Lancefield highlighted it as one of the key skills you need to make Partner in his firm and one of the common things that is missing from those who fail to make it to the top.
With all of these successful leaders talking about how critical sales is I've had a number of you ask me how you can apply this advice if you're at the junior end of your firm and don't have the experience or level in your Consultancy to be able to walk in to a CEO's office and pitch business to them.
This episode is to answer exactly that question. My advice on sales for junior Consultants. How you can help your firm with business development and be seen as someone with an aptitude for sales regardless of how senior or experienced you are.
I hope you find this useful. If you have any feedback or would like me to do similar episodes on other topics just drop me an email - Nick@climbinconsulting.com

Aug 3, 2018 • 57min
Episode 22 - David Lancefield - Strategy&, PwC
Today’s guest is David Lancefield. David is a Partner in Strategy&, PwC. David is a TEDx speaker and has been featured In the Harvard Business Review, Huffington Post, Financial Times and numerous other publications. He is also the host of his own podcast ‘transformation talks’ which I’d highly recommend checking it out
David’s approach and outlook are hugely refreshing and something that anyone with aspirations of make Partner should take note of. If you want to get a flavour for this you can check him out on twitter @Dlancefield and see the thought provoking posts he puts out on a daily basis.
David has a huge amount of experience and shares so many great insights in this conversation including:
The importance of being yourself at work and what this means both for project managers and project team members.
How to find your sweet spot and let others know what you’re good at.
The importance of feedback both up and down a Consulting firm’s hierarchy and the mistakes people make in giving and receiving feedback that hold them back.
How to make Partner in a big 4 firm and the common mistakes that those who fail to get there make.
The importance of developing and managing your personal brand as a Consultant both within and outside your firm.
And much, much more!
Having listened to the first episode of David’s Transformation Talks I thought this would be a good interview and I have to say it exceeded all of my expectations! In-depth and actionable advice from a senior leader in one of the world’s biggest Consulting firms. I hope you enjoy it.
You can find out more about David on his Linked In Page https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidclancefield/
And on Twitter - https://twitter.com/Dlancefield?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Specific Things We Discuss in the show:
Dan Cable - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-cable-a0b581a0
Transformation Talks by PwC - https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/transformation-talks/id1400295044?mt=2
PwC’s apprenticeship scheme - https://www.pwc.co.uk/careers/school-jobs/jobs.html
David’s TED talk “How business can tap into all of our special needs“ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXZ4z9QqiI
The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho - http://amzn.eu/enn0cvN
How will you measure your life? by Clay Christiensen, Karen Dillon and James Allworth - http://amzn.eu/3zScfNe
Alive at Work by Dan Cable - http://amzn.eu/04NezdI

Jul 27, 2018 • 1h 39min
Episode 21 - Jeff Wellstead - Big Bear Partners & Gtmhub
Today’s guest is Jeff Wellstead. Jeff is CEO of Big Bear Partners and Chief Strategy Officer at GtmHub. Jeff is an expert in helping rapidly growing or hyper growth start ups manage their people challenges effectively.
Before moving in to Consulting Jeff was the VP of Global HR at Message Labs and Global Director of HR at SpinVox. In both roles Jeff was responsible for helping these rapidly growing starts up overcome the people challenges as they grew and continue their hyper growth trajectories. In the case of SpinVox Jeff oversaw the 9 fold expansion of the team from just 50 people to over 450 in under 2 years!
As a consultant Jeff works with organisations to create the environment to allow their people to thrive and succeed at work while supporting the founding teams in overcoming the strategic challenges that they face as hyper growth start ups.
We cover some really interesting topics in this conversation including:
How Jeff and the team grew SpinVox so quickly and the challenges they faced along the way
The people and cultural challenges that hyper growth start ups face as they scale and the warning signs you need to watch out for if you’re growing a business
The importance of understanding where you are in your growth journey and ensuring you build the necessary structures to maintain your unique culture as your firm grows
The importance of employee experience In todays world and what you should be thinking about if you’re looking to recruit and retain the top talent in the industry
And much much more!
You can find out more about Jeff on her LinkedIn page – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrwellstead/
You can email Jeff at Jeff@BigBearPartners.com
Specific Things We Discuss in The Show:
Dunbars number - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number
Message lab - https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/messagelabs
SpinVox - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinVox
Employees First, Customers Second by Vineet Nayar - http://amzn.eu/edvxufq
Exponential Organisations by Salim Ismail, Michael Malone and Yuri van Geest - http://amzn.eu/henljqZ

Jul 20, 2018 • 26min
Episode 20 - The 7 Business and Life lessons I've learnt from running a podcast
Today’s episode is episode 20 of the podcast and to celebrate reaching 20 episodes I wanted to share my 7 biggest career and life lessons from running the podcast!
The 7 Lessons that I discuss in today’s episode:
The power of Linked In for Business Development
The importance of Personal Brand in today’s business world
Why you should focus on delivering value first
The importance on focusing on the right things and not worrying about making everything perfect
How to delight your customers/clients/guests
The importance of testing and iteration
And why everyone should do a podcast!
Things I mentioned in today’s show:
Matt Cheung’s interview - https://www.climbinconsulting.com/podcast/matt-cheung-clarasys
Kano Analysis - https://medium.com/design-ibm/kano-model-ways-to-use-it-and-not-use-it-1d205a9cf808
Tim Ferriss – Fear Setting - https://www.ted.com/talks/tim_ferriss_why_you_should_define_your_fears_instead_of_your_goals

Jul 12, 2018 • 51min
Episode 19 - Personal Branding with Natalia Wiechowski
Today’s guest is Dr Natalia Wiechowski. Natalia is an award-winning Personal Branding Strategist and international Keynote Speaker who radically changed her life and career after a self-imposed sabbatical to follow her passion: Helping people to shine.
Since taking her sabbatical and moving in to the world of Personal Branding Natalia has grown her online community to over 146,000 followers, worked with global blue-chip clients including, SAP and Bosch and been invited to speak at conferences all over the world.
Natalia is an expert in B2B Personal Branding and Marketing with over 46,000 LinkedIn followers! Her posts are regularly liked and commented on by 1,000s of people with one post last year receiving over 62,000 likes and 4,000 comments.
If you’re looking to cut through all of the noise out there on social media and take your personal brand to the next level then you’re going to love this interview.
We cover some really interesting topics in our conversation including:
Natalia’s self-imposed Sabbatical, what led her to take it and her advice to others feeling unfulfilled by their current life and career.
How Natalia found her passion and how she turned it from an idea in to her full-time career.
What Personal Branding is and why it’s so important to your career success.
How to build a deep relationship with your current and prospective clients through compelling content that solves their problems.
The common mistakes that companies and individuals make when it comes to Personal Branding and social media and how to avoid them.
And much much more!
You can find out more about Natalia on her LinkedIn page – https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliawiechowski/en
And her website - http://www.thinknatalia.com/
If you’d like to emulate Natalia’s success and want to sign up for her new online Personal Branding course you can check it out here - https://thinknatalia.coachy.net/lp/master-your-personal-brand-on-linkedin-and-offline/
Specific Things We Discuss in the show:
Robin Sharma and the 5am club - https://www.robinsharma.com/article/be-wise-early-rise
Lewis Howes - https://lewishowes.com/
Gimbal hand held phone stabiliser for shooting videos - http://amzn.eu/8Mdhwyv
The 4 Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss - http://amzn.eu/cZS8Mt5
Anything You Want by Derek Sivers - http://amzn.eu/6Nn2PDT
48 Laws of Powers by Robert Greene - http://amzn.eu/0D6ssqw
The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari by Robin Sharma - http://amzn.eu/dIsE9or
Ego Is The Enemy by Ryan Holiday - http://amzn.eu/7Rsfn7c
The Untethered Soul by Michael A Singer - http://amzn.eu/60xjxcR
Natalia’s viral post with over 60,000 likes! - https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6209953414982565888
Natalia’s Book Recommendations LinkedIn Article - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/5-mind-expanding-books-you-have-read-summer-wiechowski/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_post_details%3Bk3vi3LmQTo%2BgaD95p9x%2FkA%3D%3D

Jun 29, 2018 • 45min
Episode 18 - Career advice from the best in the business
Since starting the podcast I've interviewed a whole host of phenomenal leaders from the Consulting industry who've shared some of their best advice across a range of areas critical to climbing in Consulting.
One question I ask almost all of my guests is their advice for those people looking to build a career in the industry. A number of you have told me how useful you've found the answers to this specific question so I wanted to put all of the answer together so that you have a compilation of career advice from the best in the business.
As a recap, or for those of you who may not have listened to any of my other interviews before, the question that these guests are answering asks for one piece of advice for three different people:
The first is someone who's just starting their career in Consulting - anywhere from 0 to 2 years in.
The second is for someone 'in the middle' of their Consulting career - 4 - 6 years in to Consulting.
The third is for someone who's approaching Partner or considering going out on their own to create their own business.
There are so many great pieces of advice in this episode and some really interesting common themes and principles that have helped my guests get to the top.
As Tony Robbins says "success leaves clues". Here's you're chance to find them.
Guests in this episode:
To save you having to hear my voice over and over I don't introduce each individual guest during this episode. If you found a certain piece of advice really useful and want to hear who said it then have a look at the list and timestamps below!
00:02:38 - Simon Dennis - Founding Partner - Gate One
00:07:25 - Stephen Newton - Founding Partner - Elixirr
00:11:57 - Suki Thompson - Founder and CEO - The OysterCatchers
00:13:46 - Olly Purnell and Sharon Rice-Oxley - Founding Partners - Q5
00:18:27 - Dom Moorhouse - Founder of Moorhouse Consulting
00:20:17 - Mohamed Mansour - Founding Partner - Baringa Partners
00:22:07 - Joanna Hall - Independent Non-Executive Director
00:30:28 - Simon Walker and Tim Smeaton - Founders - Kubrick
00:33:24 - Minesh Jobanputra - Founding Partner - Deltra Group
00:34:51 - Adrian Bettridge - Managing Partner - Baringa Partners
00:37:50 - Bronek Masojada - CEO - Hiscox

Jun 22, 2018 • 1h 18min
Episode 17 - Bronek Masojada - Hiscox
Bronek Masojada is Chief Executive of Hiscox. Hiscox is a leading global insurance firm with over 2,700 people across 32 offices in 14 different countries.
Following 4 years working for McKinsey & Co Bronek was offered the opportunity to become Managing Director of Hiscox at just 31 (something we go in to detail on in today’s show) and under his leadership the firm has grown from one office of 200 people to the global firm it is today.
Whether your goal is to climb to the top of your consulting firm or take the step out in to industry there's so much you can take away from Bronek’s insights and advice.
Bronek was kind enough to give me a huge amount of time out of his busy schedule to share his knowledge, learnings and advice with you and I know you’re going to get so much from what he has to say.
We cover a whole range of topics in this conversation including:
The surprising story of how Bronek found himself being offered the role of Managing Director at such a young age.
The challenges he faced moving from Consulting in to this role and how he overcame them
How he has taken Hiscox to where it is today and his advice on scaling a business
How Bronek achieves a good work life balance as the CEO of a global, publicly traded, company – He leaves work earlier than most consultants would ever dream of!
Bronek’s advice for Consultants looking to win work from CEOs like him
And much much more!
You can find out more about Bronek on is linked in page - https://www.linkedin.com/mynetwork/heathrow-redirect/?isSendInvite=true
And on the Hiscox website - https://www.hiscoxgroup.com/about-hiscox/management
Specific Things We Discuss in the show:
Mckinsey & Company – https://www.mckinsey.com/
Robert Hiscox - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hiscox
Lloyd’s of London - https://www.lloyds.com/
Good To Great by Jim Collins - http://amzn.eu/5BOqd4v
How The Might Fall by Jim Collins - http://amzn.eu/bk3R7PF
Tom Peters - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Peters#Works
Steve Jobs: The Exclusive Biography by Walter Isaacson - http://amzn.eu/fOJV9PV
Steve Jobs the movie - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2080374/

Jun 15, 2018 • 1h 10min
Episode 16 - Tim Smeaton and Simon Walker - Kubrick Group
Today’s guests are Tim Smeaton and Simon Walker, Co-Founders of Kubrick Group. Having built and the IPOd the global recruitment firm Hydrogen Group Simon and Tim decided they wanted to build another business and saw a huge gap in the Data Science space which led them to start Kubrick.
In just 18 months they’ve grown Kubrick from an idea to over 100 consultants with more consulting ‘cohorts’ (something we discuss in today’s episode) already scheduled to start their intense 16 week training before going out to work with industry leading blue chip clients.
It’s worth saying that neither Tim or Simon come from a data background and their story is a great case study for how making the right decisions early on can enable your firm to become a leader in your chosen industry.
Not only is their growth story hugely impressive but they’ve achieved it while pioneering a very different consulting model to the pyramid model prevalent in most Management Consulting businesses. Something we cover in detail in today’s episode.
In this interview we discuss a whole range of topics including:
What led Tim and Simon to create a data science consultancy and how they tested the market before investing a huge amount of their own money in launching Kubrick.
How they’ve managed to grow the business so rapidly in the highly competitive consulting market.
How they were able to create a consulting firm in an industry that they knew very little about and the steps they took to build industry leading expertise at Kubrick.
Their approach to business planning and their monthly planning process that ensures the firm continues to grow rapidly.
Their unique consulting business model and the benefits and challenges they’ve found as a result of it.
Their advice to those looking to set up their own business in consulting or outside of it.
And much much more!
If you want to find out more about Kubrick Group or reach out to Simon or Tim you can do so on the links, emails and phone numbers below:
Kubrick Group: http://kubrickgroup.com/
Tim Smeaton:
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-smeaton-424929/
Email: timsmeaton@kubrickgroup.com
Phone: +44 203 8664621
Simon Walker:
Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-walker-8763b9/
Email: simonwalker@kubrickgroup.com
Phone: +44 203 8664622