

The Systemic Way
Sezer and Julie
This podcast gives the listener an opportunity to hear conversations with people from the field of systemic psychotherapy. Host Sezer and Julie, two systemic and family psychotherapists, discuss a wide range of topics, theories, practices and experiences with their guests, giving the listener an insight into this disciplines contribution to social change.Artwork by Arai Drake Creative: http://www.araidrake.com/portfolio/thesystemicway/Music by Rena PaidWe are now being supported by the Association of Family Therapy (AFT).
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Sep 5, 2021 • 43min
Sharing Systemic Stories - A Writing Project by Nana Bonsu and Marilena Karamatsouki
In today's episode Julie and Sezer meet with the Co-editors of Pandemic as Systemic Flux which is a writing project within Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice . The writing project has established and reflects a preoccupation with a need for the systemic practice community to feel ownership of our journals, to feel connected to the texts they read, and feel entitled to take up space with their writings.We hear how the writing project came about and some of the stories that have driven the need for this important project to be created. Nana Bonsu is a Systemic Psychotherapist, social worker and head of clinical services at Richmond and Wandsworth councils in London and Marilena Karamatsouki is Psychologist and Systemic Family Therapist in Greece.

Aug 22, 2021 • 1h 8min
Cross Cultural Systemic Practice in Singapore: A Conversation with Maimunah Mosli and Fajar Saban
Systemic Work in Singapore: A Conversation with systemic psychotherapists Maimunah Mosli and Fajar Saban on how they have introduced systemic practice to the multi-cultural landscape of Singapore.In this episode we discuss cross-cultural practice, the role of spirituality and systemic community work. We also hear the inspiring journey and development of the SYM academy in Singapore.

Jul 31, 2021 • 1h 12min
A conversation with Peter Rober: Inner conversations, dual processes and the self-reflective therapist
A conversation with Prof. Dr. Peter Rober who is a clinical psychologist, family therapist and family therapy trainer. Peter practices and teaches in Belgium and has several articles in international journals of family therapy. In this episode we hear how Peter became a family therapist and his use of inner conversations and dual process thinking through case examples. Alongside this Peter talks about how different systemic theories support and develop his current practice.

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Jul 18, 2021 • 1h 44min
The Solution Focused Conversation - Solution Focused Brief Therapy - With Eileen Murphy and Mawuli Amesu
Eileen Murphy, a leader in Solution Focused Brief Therapy with decades of experience, and Mawuli Amesu, a senior consultant specializing in motivational interviewing, share their insights. They discuss the transformative power of focusing on solutions rather than problems, emphasizing client empowerment and recognizing success. Listeners will learn about unique intervention techniques, the importance of strength-based conversations, and innovative approaches in youth development. The duo highlights their collaborative efforts in social care, showcasing effective strategies to enhance emotional expression and self-reflection.

Jul 3, 2021 • 1h 22min
Walking your Walk: Dr Sharon Bond and Kerri Newns share experiences on developing a systemic training course.
In this episode we speak with Dr Sharon Bond and Kerri Newns about Chiron, an independent training institution. We hear stories, reflections and processes on the journey of creating and developing an additional voice to the mainstream systemic training institutions.

Jun 19, 2021 • 1h 1min
Gwyn Daniel talking Family Dramas: Connections Between the Arts, Shakespeare and Systemic Thinking.
In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Gwyn Daniel, a systemic psychotherapist and trainer who has experience of working in both children's services and in adult mental health. We focus on her wonderful book Family Dramas: Intimacy Power and Systems in Shakespeare's Tragedies (2018) and the connection between systemic thinking and the arts. Gwyn is also co-author of Gender and Family Therapy (with Charlotte Burck), Growing Up in Stepfamilies (with Gill Gorell Barnes, P. Thompson and N. Burckhardt) and co-editor of Mirrors and Reflections: Processes in Systemic Supervision (with Charlotte Burck) as well as many other professional articles and book chapters. She has taught widely in the UK and internationally on many topics, including children and post divorce conflicts, systemic approaches to families where there is parental mental illness and on systemic couple's therapy. She continues to find ideas about gender and power central to her understanding of family relationships and organisational dilemmas.

Jun 6, 2021 • 52min
Systemic Approaches in Social Work: A conversation with Nana Bonsu and Derek Dyer
In this episode Sezer and Julie speak with Nana Bonsu and Derek Dyer about their wonderful work in integrating systemic ideas within the context of children and families social work. Nana is the head of service for a local authority and leads on the implementation of systemic practice and Derek is the service manager for the local authorities children looked after and care leavers teams.

May 23, 2021 • 41min
Small Acts of Resistance - Thinking about Refugees: In conversation with Esther Usiskin Cohen
In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Consultant Systemic Family Psychotherapist Esther Usiskin Cohen about her inspiring work with refugee populations in the jungle camps in Calais. We hear about the Refugee Resiliance Collective (AKA Calais Resilience Collective - Tavistock Group) which is a team of therapist who are developing approaches to enhance the resilience, capacity, coping strategies and skills of refugees, staff and volunteers in the Calais camp.

Apr 24, 2021 • 46min
Izzat (honour), Sharam (shame) and the Call for Systemic Explorations: A conversation with Doreen Robinson and Dr Reenee Singh
In this episode, Julie and Sezer speak with Systemic Psychotherapist Doreen Robinson and Dr Reenee Singh about their practice, experience and ideas within their joint paper Forced Marriage as a Representation of a Belief System in the UK and its Psychological Impact on Well-being (2020) which can be found in The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health (Majors, Carberry, & Ransaw, 2020).

Apr 24, 2021 • 1h 4min
Black Therapist - White Families, Therapists’ Perceptions of Cultural Competence and the making of The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health : A conversation with Karen Carberry and Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon
In this episode Sezer and Julie speak with Karen Carberry and Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon about their paper Black Therapists – White Families, therapists’ perceptions of cultural competence in clinical practice (2020) which can be found in The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health (Majors, Carberry, & Ransaw, 2020).


