

The Systemic Way
Sezer and Julie
This podcast gives the listener an opportunity to hear conversations with people from the field of systemic psychotherapy. Host Sezer and Julie, two systemic and family psychotherapists, discuss a wide range of topics, theories, practices and experiences with their guests, giving the listener an insight into this disciplines contribution to social change.Artwork by Arai Drake Creative: http://www.araidrake.com/portfolio/thesystemicway/Music by Rena PaidWe are now being supported by the Association of Family Therapy (AFT).
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Feb 12, 2022 • 1h 21min
Decolonising Psychotherapy: Solidarity, the Co-Struggle and Moving Towards Abolitionist Approaches: In Conversation with Dr. Travis Heath
In this episode we meet Dr Travis Heath, PhD, to speak about decolonising psychotherapy. He generously shares his current thinking, reading and practice around the topic.Travis Heath is Narrative Therapist, Clinical Psychologist and Associate Professor of Psychology at Metropolitan State University of Denver, Colorado. His work has focused on shifting from a multicultural approach to counseling to one of cultural democracy that invites people to heal in mediums that are culturally near. Travis has also written on the use of rap music in narrative therapy, working with persons entangled in the criminal justice system in ways that maintain their dignity, narrative practice stories as pedagogy, a co-created questioning practice called reunion questions, and community healing strategies. Travis is currently co-authoring the first book on Contemporary Narrative Therapy with David Epston. Travis has ran workshops and speak about his work in Australia, Canada, Denmark, Hong Kong, India, New Zealand, Norway, United Kingdom, and United States.Link to his Ted Talk:https://www.ted.com/talks/travis_heath_self_care_to_communities_of_care

Jan 23, 2022 • 1h 27min
Stephen: A Systemic Analysis of the Stephen Lawrence ITV Drama with Film Writer and Family Therapist Joe Cottrell-Boyce
In this episode we speak with Joe Cottrell-Boyce, film writer, systemic family therapist and social worker about the ITV drama "Stephen" which he co-wrote (2021). We explore themes of family trauma, the impact of racism, institutional racism and the search for justice and peace. We also discuss his 2021 paper "Addressing White privilege in family therapy: A discourse analysis" which was published in the Journal of Family Therapy.Watch the TV show here:https://www.itv.com/hub/stephen/10a0537 Cottrell‐Boyce, J. (2021). Addressing White privilege in family therapy: A discourse analysis. Journal of Family Therapy.Find out more about Joe's work at:https://lse.academia.edu/JoeCottrellBoyce

Jan 8, 2022 • 1h 14min
Using Geek Culture in Psychotherapy: A Systemic Odyssey - In Conversation with Josue Cardona
In this episode we meet with Josue Cardona who is the founder and president of Geek Therapy based in the USA. Geek Therapy is a affinity based model of therapeutic intervention that shows you different ways to communicate and understand people through their passions and interest. Learn more about Geek Therapy @ www.geektherapy.org

Dec 30, 2021 • 28min
Systemic Way Podcast - Catch-Up on 2021
In this episode we review the past year, looking at how the podcast started, our hopes in creating the content, review of the episodes and a look forward to what is coming up in 2022!Thank you to all the listeners and special guests that have joined us in our first year in making the podcast! Special thank you to Tasmin Arai Drake and Rena Paid for providing the art work and music for our podcast!

Dec 11, 2021 • 1h 14min
Child to Parent Violence and Abuse - A conversation with Helen Bonnick
In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Helen Bonnick, author of the book 'Child to Parent Violence and Abuse: A Practitioner’s Guide to Working with Families'. We discuss the origins of the book, core ideas, implications for practice and the systemic ideas which have both influenced and developed her work.

Nov 28, 2021 • 59min
Contextual Safeguarding: Pioneering Approach to Child Protection with Professor Dr Carlene Firmin MBE and Lisa Bostock
In this episode we speak with Professor Dr Carlene Firmin MBE and Lisa Bostock on the development, key ideas, research and implementation of Contextual Safeguarding. We explore how the framework of Contextual Safeguarding crosses over and interacts with systemic concepts and gain insights into how we can begin to use this framework in our practice. For more information on Contextual Safeguarding visit their website at https://contextualsafeguarding.org.uk

Nov 17, 2021 • 1h 2min
Systemic Approaches to Leadership - In conversation with Percy Aggett and Philip Messent
In todays episode we speak with systemic psychotherapy consultants, Percy Aggett and Philip Messent who share their thoughts on rethinking leadership and management through a collaborative approach drawing on systemic principles and ideas.Percy Aggett is a social work trained systemic psychotherapist. He was previously the Associate Clinical Director and Head of Psychological Therapies in Tower Hamlets CAMHS, East London, UK. “I am concerned to create safe, imaginative organisations. I am interested in the different ways in which people learn and how to create contexts in which people learn best. I am interested in developing dialogic approaches to team development and how mental health workers can be empowered to stay working with persistence in vulnerable communities.”Philip Messent trained and worked as social worker in the UK, then as a systemic psychotherapist, in the 1980s, then spent 30 years working in children and adolescent mental health services in the East End of London. He is also the current editor of the Journal of Family Therapy.

Oct 30, 2021 • 47min
VIVA Talk! In conversation with Professor Hannah Sherbersky
VIVA talk! In today's episode Professor Hannah Sherbersky takes us through a piece of her work in the style of a VIVA. This episode gives the listener an insight into Hannah's practice and helpful ideas about answering questions and talking about ones work in general.Professor Hannah Sherbersky is an Associate Professor, Systemic Psychotherapist, Deputy Director of Post-Graduate Taught Programmes and Co-Director of Systemic Portfolio at CEDAR, College of Life and Environmental Sciences, University Exeter.Website - www.changetree.co.ukFor the full episode of the show we used for Hannah's VIVA please see the link below:Sherbersky, H. (2019) ‘I Blame my Parents’. BBC 3 Documentary. See BBC site here. See YouTube here.

Oct 16, 2021 • 1h 10min
Non-Violence Resistance (NVR) - In conversation with Dr Peter Jakob and Joanne Buchmuller
NVR: In this episode we speak with Dr Peter Jakob and Joanne Buchmuller on the development, theory and practice of NVR. They share their own experiences and reflections in this insightful and informative conversation.Please do also check out their work at https://www.partnershipprojectsuk.com/ and their numerous publications on NVR.

Oct 2, 2021 • 1h 8min
Embodiment in Systemic Practice: A personal journey with Shona Grant
In this episode we speak with Shona Grant about her relationship to embodiment in her practice - how she discovered it, its' meaning and the ways it has developed her as a systemic therapist and social worker.


