Episode 33. While in Atlanta at the 2019 ISIT DBT conference, Ulland and Jo continue an interview with Izzy and Julianna, a mother-daughter dyad from a family they worked with over two years ago. They share what it was like as an individual and family to learn and apply DBT to their life and the challenging family work they were open and willing to take on. Izzy discusses how the idea of learned helplessness broke her stuckedness so she could pursue change with a passion.

Episode 32. While in Atlanta at the 2019 ISIT DBT conference, Ulland and Jo interview Izzy and Julianna, a mother-daughter dyad from a family they worked with over two years ago. They share what it was like deciding to come across the country to a 12 week, high fidelity DBT residential program.

Episode 31. In this episode, Ulland and Jo discuss three common lessons learned from invalidating environments including confusion, hopelessness and crisis=connection. Jo probably cusses a couple of times. Ulland discloses a shocking detail that he has a friend who is a dentist, and again pretends to know more than he likely does.

Episode 30. In this episode, Jo and Ulland redo the biosocial theory—at least the third third. This section covers invalidating environments. This episode also can be found on YouTube under the channel "All Therapists are Jerks".

Episode 29. In this episode, Jo and Ulland redo the biosocial theory—at least the second third. This section covers behavioral dysregulation. This episode also can be found on YouTube under the channel "All Therapists are Jerks".

Episode 28. In this episode, Jo and Ulland redo the biosocial theory—at least the first third. This section covers emotion dysregulation.This episode also can be found on YouTube under the channel "All Therapists are Jerks".

Episode 27. In this episode Ulland and Jo review how to have difficult conversations.  How to win at tug of war.  Maybe keeping the cowl on is a good idea--just in case, Kylo.   Much of this episode has to do with how one needs to be aware of one's own ability to regulate in the moment to be effective.  

Episode 26.  In this episode Ulland and Jo review various skills and principles within DBT that can be used in parenting. Examples are given. Validation and dialects are common themes.  

Episode 25.  In this episode, Ulland and Jo review in the moment interactions through the use of Lorna Smith Benjamin's Interpersonal Reconstructive Psychotherapy. The dimensions are a dialect between disconnection and connection, and control versus emancipation. 

Episode 24.  In this episode Ulland and Jo review relational mindfulness.  Reactivating relationships is central to this episode for relationships that have grown distant with conflict.  Jo dishes on an ex-roommate and how she was affected by distance in the relationship.  Special continued thanks to Alan Fruzzetti and his training for DBT in family therapy.