

CHURN FM
Andrew Michael
CHURN FM is the podcast for subscription economy pros. Every Wednesday we hear how the world’s fastest growing companies are tackling churn and using retention & engagement to fuel their growth.
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Sep 25, 2019 • 39min
EP 28 | Omid Razavi (ServiceNow) - Preventing churn by building out a product success team
Today on Churn.fm we have Omid Razavi, Global Head of Product Success at ServiceNow.In this episode, we discussed the main difference between "customer success" and "product success", the 3 key aspects of the product success role, and how ServiceNow’s product success team handles and analyzes feedback to provide actionable insights for their product team.We also discussed the importance of understanding your customer's level of maturity, how to prevent churn when your champions goals are shifting, and why you need to expand the number of "champions" you have inside your customer's companies.As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on TwitterChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 18, 2019 • 52min
EP27 | Jenny Campbell (DiscoverOrg) - 3 crucial customer health metrics you should monitor to prevent churn
Today on Churn.fm we have Jenny Campbell, Vice President of Customer Experience at DiscoverOrg.In this episode, we discussed the functions of customer marketing inside a customer success team; three essential things that move the customer retention needle; and how to define your customer segments.We also talked about DiscoverOrg's systematic approach when it comes to customer onboarding, how they continuously iterate the onboarding process, and how they measure the impact and effectiveness.Jenny also shared unique insights on the challenges she faced when DiscoverOrg acquired and merged with their competitors, and how DiscoverOrg "eats their own dog food" by using their own product for sales, marketing, and customer success.As usual, I'm excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter.Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 11, 2019 • 48min
EP26 | Yu-Kai Chou - Gamification: 4 phases of a “Player’s Journey” and how it can help you improve retention
Today on Churn.FM we have Yu-Kai Chou, the author of Actionable Gamification and creator of the Octalysis framework.We talked about the 4 phases of a player’s journey in the gamification framework, and how it can help make your product stickier, and prevent churn.We also discussed examples of good gamification in SaaS, how much is too much, and how user onboarding can play a vital role in gamifying your retention.Yu-Kai also talked about the importance of community in user retention, the role of personalization in gamification, and common mistakes companies make in implementing gamification principles.As usual, I’m excited to hear what you think of this episode, and if you have any feedback, I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don’t forget to follow us on Twitter.Enjoy the episode!Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Sep 4, 2019 • 49min
EP25 | Vinay Bhagat (TrustRadius) - How to increase customer retention by adapting to the modern buyer’s journey
Today on Churn.fm we have Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius, and ex-founder and CEO of Convio.In this episode, we talk briefly about Vinay’s unique educational background, the biggest takeaway he got from being a student at three of the most prestigious universities in the world, and the moment he realized he was destined to become an entrepreneur. Vinay also shared how he prevents churn when a champion leaves his customer’s company, how he maintains retention by continuously educating customers, and how companies can adapt to the modern buying process.We also discussed how to apply the “voice of customer” into your marketing and product development cycles, why transparency is the inevitable future of the buyer’s journey, and how you can drive more reviews from your customers.As usual, I’m excited to hear what you think of this episode and if you have any feedback I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don’t forget to follow us on Twitter Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 28, 2019 • 49min
EP24 | Guillaume Cabane - 4 Simple churn crushing tactics to unlock hyper-growth for your startup
Today on Churn.fm we have Guillaume Cabane, also known as “G”. G was the former VP of Growth at hyper-growth startups such as Drift and Segment, and now works as a growth advisor for a number of different startups. In this episode we talk about forecasting churn, the most surprising factor G found that contributes to churn, and the simplest way to battle it.We also discuss tracking and measuring your marketing efforts, the importance of understanding the “sales velocity” of your different marketing channels, and why you shouldn’t give up too quickly on a new marketing channel.G also shared the craziest thing he had ever done with automation and emphasized how a slight advantage over your competitors can make a world of difference in the SaaS business world.As usual, I’m excited to hear what you think of this episode and if you have any feedback I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don’t forget to follow us on TwitterChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 21, 2019 • 45min
EP23 | Eleanor Dorfman - Faster is not always better: How Segment improved retention by adding friction to their onboarding process
Today on Churn.fm we have Eleanor Dorfman, Head of Customer Expansion at Segment.We talked about Eleanor’s unique background and how she transitioned from a career in law to education and finally settled in the tech startup world.Eleanor also gave us insight into how Segment planned their current onboarding process, how adding friction to their onboarding lead to higher retention, and the most surprising thing they found that caused churn.We also discussed why customer retention is a team sport, and how customer success starts at the beginning of the sales process and not after a sale has been made.As usual, I’m excited to hear what you think of this episode and if you have any feedback I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don’t forget to follow us on TwitterChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 14, 2019 • 49min
EP22 | Michael Redbord - How HubSpot turns customers into marketers by creating a customer-driven culture
Today on Churn.fm we have Michael Redbord, the General Manager of Service Hub at HubSpot.We talked about why you should proactively turn your customers into your best marketers, how customer success teams play an important role in doing it, and why you should keep talking to customers as you scale. We also discussed why creating a mindset around churn and retention early on is important to an organization, and how to build a customer success team with that in mind. Michael also shared the evolution of HubSpot’s customer success team during their key growth phases and the 3 key roles of a customer success team.As usual, I’m excited to hear what you think of this episode and if you have any feedback I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm. Don’t forget to follow us on TwitterEnjoy the episode!Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Aug 7, 2019 • 47min
EP21 | Jinny Oh (Wandr) - How product strategy and UX design impact churn
Today on CHURN.FM we have Jinny Oh, Founder of Wandr Studio, a product strategy and UX design firm.We chatted about how Jinny built a multi-million dollar business as a digital nomad and her motivations to build a remote company.We also discussed how Wandr helps SaaS companies tackle churn through product strategy and UX design, how to test your ideal customer personas before building a product, and the importance of having a solid information architecture to avoid build a Frankestein product.Jinny also shared how product copy impacts product design, how to conduct a usability audit, and how to effectively roll out a product redesign without impacting the existing user's experience.I’m excited to hear what you think of this episode and if you have any feedback I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fm and don’t forget to follow us on Twitter.Enjoy the episode!Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Jul 31, 2019 • 47min
EP20 | John Gleeson - How KeepTruckin keeps a near-perfect customer retention rate
Today on CHURN.FM we have John Gleeson, the Head of Customer Success for Upper SMB, Mid Market, and Enterprise of KeepTruckinWe chatted about what it’s like building a customer success team in a fast-scaling startup and how they achieve a near-perfect customer retention rate.John also shared the tool stack his Customer Success team uses, why their customer success team is set up into two different functions between onboarding and Customer Success, and how they proactively prepare for customer renewals.We also discussed the importance of measuring a customer health score and how to utilize it, why closing new deals shouldn’t be the customer success manager’s responsibility, and how John would tackle churn and retention if he would join a new company and start from scratch.As usual, I’m excited to hear what you think of this episode and if you have any feedback I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on andrew@churn.fm. Don’t forget to follow us on TwitterChurn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.

Jul 24, 2019 • 48min
EP19 | Wes Bush (ProductLed Institute) - Product-led growth, a buzz word or just good business?
Today on CHURN.FM we have Wes Bush, Author of "Product-Led Growth" & host of the ProductLedSummit.com.We chatted about what product-led growth is and why you should care. Why Wes started the Product-led Summit, and how you can get started with Product-led growth. We also discussed the importance of striking a balance between educating and motivating your users during user onboarding, why optimizing the first 5 minutes of a users journey is make or break moment and he provided a methodology to do so.Wes also shared how to pick between a freemium and trial model in a product-led strategy, A framework for pricing and packaging a freemium offering, and what he would do starting out at a new company trying to tackle churn.I’m excited to hear what you think of this episode and if you have any feedback I would love to hear from you. You can email me directly on Andrew@churn.fmEnjoy the episode!Churn FM is sponsored by Vitally, the all-in-one Customer Success Platform.


