

Secondhand Therapy
PonyBear Studios
Secondhand Therapy is a funny, honest mental health podcast where two unlicensed best friends unpack their weekly therapy sessions.Join Louie Paoletti and Michael Malone as they explore anxiety, ADHD, grief, masculinity, and emotional growth—with humor, heart, and total transparency. Each episode blends raw self-reflection with real time takes on therapy, trauma, relationships, and the messy process of healing.It’s real talk about mental health in the modern world, and why personal growth is so damn hard.
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Jul 21, 2025 • 1h 2min
Hobby Hunting and Identity Crises | #091
In a candid exchange, Louie reveals his concerns about his therapist's politics while navigating the awkwardness of early therapy sessions. He embarks on a quest for hobbies that enrich his life and relationships, discussing the fine line between fun and obligation. Michael shares his identity struggles, prompting reflections on self-worth and the nature of good character. They confront the fears tied to creative pursuits and reassure each other that personal growth can mean letting go of toxic relationships.

Jul 14, 2025 • 58min
New Therapists, Old Patterns | #090
Louie and Michael just had intake sessions with their new therapists—and the experiences couldn’t have been more different. Louie returns to working with a woman therapist and unpacks what it’s like doing virtual therapy from the intimacy of your own space. He opens up about childhood trauma, the emotional impact of therapy on Zoom, and why his new therapist has never used social media—and what that says about mental health today.
Meanwhile, Michael is adjusting to a new relationship dynamic and facing fear in unexpected places—including a moment when his partner fell asleep and he felt too anxious to go for a walk. The two discuss how fear of abandonment, relational anxiety, and early trauma still show up—then dive into a classic role play that spirals in the most chaotic (and healing?) way.
If you're into therapy, emotional processing, relationship dynamics, or navigating modern mental health—this episode is for you.
Who doesn't love muffins, ya know.
Topics:
Virtual therapy vs in-person sessions
Fear of abandonment & relationship anxiety
Social media and mental health
First therapy sessions and trauma discovery
Role play therapy (with laughs and breakthroughs)
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Jul 7, 2025 • 60min
Replay - PTSD and Self-Love with Hanorah
Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions involving sexual assault.
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Jun 30, 2025 • 1h 1min
I Don’t Want Help! What Even is Growth? | #089
This episode ends up going very deep... Michael’s patience hits a breaking point after being on hold for 4 hours—then his girlfriend tries to help, and it only makes things worse. Lou and Michael unpack why support can sometimes feel like control, and how some conversations trigger defensiveness or feel like interrogation. They dive into the tension between processing emotions vs. taking action, explore their very different approaches to therapy, and debate what real growth actually looks like. The episode takes a deeper turn as they confront generational trauma, emotional triggers, and what it takes to break toxic family cycles.
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Jun 23, 2025 • 59min
Replay - Little Boy on the Beach Gave Me a Panic Attack
Michael unpacks a vivid dream that stirred up old wounds, leading to a raw conversation about how he’s really processed his grief. He and Louie dive into what “showing emotion” actually means—especially for men—and why crying in front of people feels impossible. Louie opens up about a therapy exercise that triggered a full-blown panic attack, and the episode takes a deeper turn as they both reflect on their childhoods and how it shaped them.
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Jun 16, 2025 • 58min
Read Receipts & The Panic Spiral of “I Miss You” | #088
Louie’s off keto and melting down over Cinnamon Toast Crunch, but it quickly becomes clear this episode isn’t really about cereal. What starts as a goofy check-in turns into a full-blown emotional audit — from the weight of unsaid feelings to the desperate scramble to fix something you maybe just made worse. The guys unravel the difference between:"How can I talk to you better?" vs. "What can we do differently?"
Selfless care vs. reputation management
Guilt-driven repair vs. genuine accountability
They dissect what it means to feel dismissed, how panic can hijack your intention, and why changing how you speak to someone isn’t always love — sometimes it’s self-erasure. It’s funny, it’s chaotic, and Also featuring:
– “You hit me with a baseball!”
– Weaponized ‘I miss you’s
– A fake breakup that feels a little too real
– Love on the spectrum
– And Michael finally realizing he’s never actually thought before speaking 🙃
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Jun 9, 2025 • 1h 2min
Fake Growth. Real Talk. | #087
This is probably our most uncomfortable conversation so far... This week, we dive into the messy beauty of personal growth, family trauma, and the illusion of progress. Michael spirals into thoughts about mortality and uncovers patterns passed down through his family—aka the “family curse.” He opens up about feeling stuck, avoiding discomfort, and calling it self-improvement. Louie isn’t having it. He calls out the loopholes, the fake growth, and the safety blanket of the comfort zone. There’s tension. There’s truth. There’s laughter in between the heavy stuff.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, lied to yourself in the name of growth, or wondered if your trauma is inherited—this one’s for you. mental health, therapy, self-awareness, generational trauma, comfort zone, vulnerability, personal development, funny therapy podcast
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Jun 2, 2025 • 46min
I Don’t Feel Connected to my Mother | #086
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May 26, 2025 • 44min
Grief (Part II) / Music Triggers & Healing Over Time When the World Won’t Stop | #085
Louie opens up about how music can unexpectedly trigger waves of grief — and reflects on the strangely beautiful reality that the world keeps moving after someone dies. Michael shares how his own experience of loss has shifted over time, revealing how grief evolves and reshapes our sense of self. Together, they explore the many forms grief can take — from deep sorrow to unexpected moments of connection and hope — and how it intersects with our mental health. Whether you're grieving a loved one, a relationship, or a version of yourself, this conversation offers comfort, perspective, and a reminder that you're not alone.
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May 19, 2025 • 57min
Therapy Intake Questions, ADHD Struggles, and Starting with a New Therapist | #084
Social media boundaries in therapy, ADHD shutdowns, and how productivity shame messes with your self-worth.
Starting therapy with someone new can feel… awkward. Louie shares about his first session with a new therapist, and the surprising comment he received on Instagram that sparked a deeper conversation. Should therapists follow you on social media? Meanwhile, Michael opens up about his ongoing struggles with ADHD, productivity shame, and what it’s like to emotionally shut down when tasks pile up. In this episode, we unpack:
Awkward first sessions with new therapists
Should your therapist follow your Instagram?
Therapy intake forms: too much too soon?
ADHD, executive dysfunction, and self-worth
The emotional weight of productivity culture
If you've ever questioned your therapist, your brain, or your to-do list — this one's for you.
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