

Secondhand Therapy
PonyBear Studios
Secondhand Therapy is a funny, honest mental health podcast where two unlicensed best friends unpack their weekly therapy sessions.Join Louie Paoletti and Michael Malone as they explore anxiety, ADHD, grief, masculinity, and emotional growth—with humor, heart, and total transparency. Each episode blends raw self-reflection with real time takes on therapy, trauma, relationships, and the messy process of healing.It’s real talk about mental health in the modern world, and why personal growth is so damn hard.
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Dec 15, 2025 • 59min
Emotional Defensiveness: Why Softness Feels Unsafe | #111
Louie’s therapist tells him his “direct communication” is actually defensiveness — and it sends him into an identity spiral. We talk about fear, softness, control, relationship triggers, autism traits, wanting to be chosen, and why saying “I’m scared and sad” feels like death.
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-BetterHelp:
If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our sponsor. Visit https://betterhelp.com/secondhandtherapy for a discount on your first month of therapy.
If you have questions about the brand relating to how the therapists are credentialed, their privacy policy, or therapist compensation, here is an overview written by the YouTube creators behind the channel Cinema Therapy that goes into these topics: https://www.reddit.com/r/cinema_therapy/comments/1dpriql/addressing_the_betterhelp_concerns_headon_deep/
-The Maca Team:
Louie really does take Maca every day. (He takes Black and Tri-Blend). He loves it.
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-Light Phone:
Louie really does have and use a Light Phone III. He loves it.
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We dig into the messy reality of defensiveness, vulnerability, emotional expression, fear, control, and communication patterns inside relationships. Louie shares how his therapist told him that his “direct communication” is actually a defense mechanism, and the conversation spirals into emotional avoidance, softness, and why saying “I’m scared and sad” feels impossible.
We break down:
Why “direct communication” can actually be emotional defensiveness
How vulnerability gets blocked by masculinity, shame & fear
Autism traits, miscommunication, and not hearing what isn’t said
Wanting to be chosen, fear of losing connection, and relationship insecurity
Control vs. fear: trying to protect connection vs. micromanaging outcomes
How delivery affects emotional safety (soft vs. blunt communication)
Why asking for comfort feels like weakness
Emotional funks, depression cycles, ADHD patterns & medication fears
Relationship honesty, lying, guilt, and the messy ethics of confession
It’s raw, chaotic, vulnerable, funny, and painfully relatable — the perfect mix for a mental health, relationships, therapy talk podcast.
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818-850-2448
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Dec 8, 2025 • 59min
Emotional Numbness, Triggers & Childhood Patterns | #110
Michael talks about shutting down over Thanksgiving, emotional numbness, and the messy reality of grief. Louie breaks down triggers, embarrassment, childhood patterns, and why certain moments feel like personal attacks.
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-BetterHelp:
If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our sponsor. Visit https://betterhelp.com/secondhandtherapy for a discount on your first month of therapy.
If you have questions about the brand relating to how the therapists are credentialed, their privacy policy, or therapist compensation, here is an overview written by the YouTube creators behind the channel Cinema Therapy that goes into these topics: https://www.reddit.com/r/cinema_therapy/comments/1dpriql/addressing_the_betterhelp_concerns_headon_deep/
-The Maca Team:
Louie really does take Maca every day. (He takes Black and Tri-Blend). He loves it.
http://themacateam.com/secondhandtherapy
promo code: bearcub for 10% off
-Light Phone:
Louie really does have and use a Light Phone III. He loves it.
https://www.thelightphone.com/shop?ref=mmexymn
promo code: secondhandtherapy for $50 off pre-order of Light Phone III
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In this week’s episode of Secondhand Therapy, we unpack the complicated mix of grief, emotional numbness, triggers, anger, and childhood conditioning that still shapes adult reactions. Michael opens up about spending Thanksgiving in bed, feeling emotionally shut down, and exploring why certain moments hit harder than others. Louie challenges him on avoidance, grief processing, and the stories we tell ourselves when intense emotions show up.
We also dive into:
Why holiday grief hits unexpectedly
Emotional numbness vs. dissociation
Organizing grief so it stops overwhelming everything
How embarrassment and shame block emotional release
Anger, frustration, and “pretending” to be healed
Nervous system triggers and why they feel like aggression
Childhood patterns around attention and how they show up in adulthood
Customer service, disappointment, and why small moments can activate big wounds
This is a raw, honest conversation about grief, emotional regulation, inner child responses, triggers, vulnerability, self-awareness, and healing,.
BUSINESS INQUIRIES: business@secondhandtherapypod.com
Support the pod:
PATREON - http://patreon.com/secondhandtherapypod
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Contact us:
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818-850-2448
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Nov 24, 2025 • 57min
When Grief Finds You - Grief Part III | #109
Louie shares a dream about his late partner that cracks open a huge conversation about grief, avoidance, triggers, and what it means to actually move forward. Michael challenges him, things get tense, and it turns into one of our most honest episodes yet.
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-BetterHelp:
If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our sponsor. Visit https://betterhelp.com/secondhandtherapy for a discount on your first month of therapy.
If you have questions about the brand relating to how the therapists are credentialed, their privacy policy, or therapist compensation, here is an overview written by the YouTube creators behind the channel Cinema Therapy that goes into these topics: https://www.reddit.com/r/cinema_therapy/comments/1dpriql/addressing_the_betterhelp_concerns_headon_deep/
-The Maca Team:
Louie really does take Maca every day. (He takes Black and Tri-Blend). He loves it.
http://themacateam.com/secondhandtherapy
promo code: bearcub for 10% off
-Light Phone:
Louie really does have and use a Light Phone III. He loves it.
https://www.thelightphone.com/shop?ref=mmexymn
promo code: secondhandtherapy for $50 off pre-order of Light Phone III
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In this deeply personal episode of Second Hand Therapy, we unpack dreams, grief, unresolved emotions, and the complicated ways they show up in everyday life. Louie opens up about a dream involving his late partner and how it challenged his beliefs around meaning, symbolism, and emotional closure. Michael pushes back with questions about avoidance, grief processing, and what it means to “move forward” after loss.
Together, we explore:
How dreams connect to subconscious processing
The difference between honoring grief vs. being defined by it
Avoidance, emotional triggers, and why they resurface years later
How unresolved childhood and adult grief compounds
Moving forward without “leaving someone behind”
What it looks like when grief unexpectedly “finds you”
This episode is a vulnerable, honest look at grief, trauma, emotional regulation, subconscious processing, healing, and the messiness of being human—delivered with the same humor, tension, and real friendship you expect from this show.
BUSINESS INQUIRIES: business@secondhandtherapypod.com
Support the pod:
PATREON - http://patreon.com/secondhandtherapypod
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Follow us here:
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Contact us:
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818-850-2448
PO BOX 230595, Las Vegas, NV 89105

Nov 17, 2025 • 1h 3min
Porn Addiction & Monastic Wisdom with Jeremy Lipkowitz | #108
Jeremy Lipkowitz breaks down porn addiction, how it affects your relationships, and why it’s more common than people think. He also talks about his time as a Buddhist monk and what that life taught him about discipline, desire, and mindfulness.
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-BetterHelp:
If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our sponsor. Visit https://betterhelp.com/secondhandtherapy for a discount on your first month of therapy.
If you have questions about the brand relating to how the therapists are credentialed, their privacy policy, or therapist compensation, here is an overview written by the YouTube creators behind the channel Cinema Therapy that goes into these topics: https://www.reddit.com/r/cinema_therapy/comments/1dpriql/addressing_the_betterhelp_concerns_headon_deep/
-The Maca Team:
Louie really does take Maca every day. (He takes Black and Tri-Blend). He loves it.
http://themacateam.com/secondhandtherapy
promo code: bearcub for 10% off
-Light Phone:
Louie really does have and use a Light Phone III. He loves it.
https://www.thelightphone.com/shop?ref=mmexymn
promo code: secondhandtherapy for $50 off pre-order of Light Phone III
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Jeremy Lipkowitz joins us for a deep, honest conversation about porn addiction, how it develops, and the real ways it impacts mental health, relationships, intimacy, and self-worth. We explore what porn addiction actually is, how it shows up in everyday life, and why so many people struggle with shame and secrecy around it.
Jeremy also shares his powerful story of becoming a Buddhist monk, how mindfulness reshaped his relationship with desire, and what monastic life taught him about emotional regulation, discipline, and self-compassion.
If you're curious about addiction, mindfulness, or the psychology behind our habits, this episode hits all the big questions.
BUSINESS INQUIRIES: business@secondhandtherapypod.com
Support the pod:
PATREON - http://patreon.com/secondhandtherapypod
MERCH - http://secondhandtherapypod.com
Follow us here:
http://instagram.com/secondhandtherapypod
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Contact us:
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818-850-2448
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Nov 10, 2025 • 1h 9min
Why We Struggle With Compliments, FOMO, and Accountability | #107
Louie gets a wild text from his dad and things spiral into talk about cynicism, giving (and taking) compliments, and why we chase what we’re “missing out on.”
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-BetterHelp:
If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our sponsor. Visit https://betterhelp.com/secondhandtherapy for a discount on your first month of therapy.
If you have questions about the brand relating to how the therapists are credentialed, their privacy policy, or therapist compensation, here is an overview written by the YouTube creators behind the channel Cinema Therapy that goes into these topics: https://www.reddit.com/r/cinema_therapy/comments/1dpriql/addressing_the_betterhelp_concerns_headon_deep/
-The Maca Team:
Louie really does take Maca every day. (He takes Black and Tri-Blend). He loves it.
http://themacateam.com/secondhandtherapy
promo code: bearcub for 10% off
-Light Phone:
Louie really does have and use a Light Phone III. He loves it.
https://www.thelightphone.com/shop?ref=mmexymn
promo code: secondhandtherapy for $50 off pre-order of Light Phone III
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Louie gets a surprising text from his dad—and it sparks a conversation about how we process emotion, self-worth, and connection. In this episode, we unpack why giving and receiving compliments can feel so uncomfortable, how cynicism masks vulnerability, and what “missing out” really means when it comes to FOMO. Michael opens up about his ongoing struggle with accountability—and Louie calls him out on it.
BUSINESS INQUIRIES: business@secondhandtherapypod.com
Support the pod:
PATREON - http://patreon.com/secondhandtherapypod
MERCH - http://secondhandtherapypod.com
Follow us here:
http://instagram.com/secondhandtherapypod
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Contact us:
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818-850-2448
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Nov 3, 2025 • 58min
Why Men Struggle With Vulnerability | #106
Louie and Michael answer a listener email about why men struggle with vulnerability—diving into shame, repression, and the fear of emotional connection.
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-BetterHelp:
If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our sponsor. Visit https://betterhelp.com/secondhandtherapy for a discount on your first month of therapy.
If you have questions about the brand relating to how the therapists are credentialed, their privacy policy, or therapist compensation, here is an overview written by the YouTube creators behind the channel Cinema Therapy that goes into these topics: https://www.reddit.com/r/cinema_therapy/comments/1dpriql/addressing_the_betterhelp_concerns_headon_deep/
-The Maca Team:
Louie really does take Maca every day. (He takes Black and Tri-Blend). He loves it.
http://themacateam.com/secondhandtherapy
promo code: bearcub for 10% off
-Light Phone:
Louie really does have and use a Light Phone III. He loves it.
https://www.thelightphone.com/shop?ref=mmexymn
promo code: secondhandtherapy for $50 off pre-order of Light Phone III
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Louie and Michael respond to a listener email about why men struggle with vulnerability, emotional awareness, and connection. They dig into childhood conditioning, gender norms, and how shame and emotional repression keep men stuck in outdated ideas of strength. The conversation explores therapy, communication, emotional literacy, masculinity, and healing, asking what it would take for men to feel safe being seen. Equal parts funny and introspective, this episode is a breakdown of why men feel regressed in vulnerability—and how to change that.
BUSINESS INQUIRIES: business@secondhandtherapypod.com
Support the pod:
PATREON - http://patreon.com/secondhandtherapypod
MERCH - http://secondhandtherapypod.com
Follow us here:
http://instagram.com/secondhandtherapypod
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Contact us:
secondhandtherapypod@gmail.com
818-850-2448
PO BOX 230595, Las Vegas, NV 89105

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Oct 27, 2025 • 55min
Fawning: The Hidden Trauma Response Behind People-Pleasing | #105
Dive into the nuanced world of fawning, where extreme people-pleasing stems from hidden trauma. The hosts explore how emotional immaturity in parents can breed codependency and a desperate need for safety. They discuss the challenge of identifying emotional safety and the slow journey of healing, punctuated by Lou's sharing of his own past trauma and its impact on relationships. Learn how naming fawning brings awareness, but change is a gradual process filled with self-discovery.

Oct 20, 2025 • 1h 10min
Understanding Misogyny: Gina Martin on Compassion, Gender, and Healing | #104
Gina Martin joins to talk misogyny, feminism, and emotional healing—how patriarchy, trauma, and compassion shape identity, relationships, and recovery.
BetterHelp:
If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our sponsor. Visit https://betterhelp.com/secondhandtherapy for a discount on your first month of therapy.
If you have questions about the brand relating to how the therapists are credentialed, their privacy policy, or therapist compensation, here is an overview written by the YouTube creators behind the channel Cinema Therapy that goes into these topics: https://www.reddit.com/r/cinema_therapy/comments/1dpriql/addressing_the_betterhelp_concerns_headon_deep/
The Maca Team:
Louie really does take Maca every day. (He takes Black and Tri-Blend). He loves it.
http://themacateam.com/secondhandtherapy
promo code: bearcub for 10% off
Light Phone:
Louie really does have and use a Light Phone III. He loves it.
https://www.thelightphone.com/shop?ref=mmexymn
promo code: secondhandtherapy for $50 off pre-order of Light Phone III
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Louie and Michael talk with author and activist Gina Martin about misogyny, feminism, gender roles, and emotional safety. Gina breaks down how patriarchy, trauma, and apathy shape men’s and women’s behavior, and what true compassion, forgiveness, and accountability look like in relationships. They explore how to raise boys, gendered social conditioning, and why understanding systems—not just individuals—matters for change. This episode dives deep into feminism, empathy, recovery, therapy, and identity, offering an unfiltered look at how culture shapes our emotional lives.
Gina Martin she/her is a British gender equality activist, writer and facilitator known for her work fighting gender stereotypes, misogyny, sexual violence and the manosphere. Gina was responsible for making upskirting illegal in England and Wales (with 3 countries following suit), and changing discriminatory Instagram policy. She is also a writer, has published three books and has a best-selling Substack. Gina now works in schools across Australia running workshops for high schoolers on gender stereotypes.
Gina's IG: https://www.instagram.com/ginamartin/?hl=en
Gina's Substack: https://ginamartin.substack.com/
Gina's Latest Book: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/452339/no-offence-but-by-martin-gina/9781529177572
BUSINESS INQUIRIES: business@secondhandtherapypod.com
Support the pod:
PATREON - http://patreon.com/secondhandtherapypod
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Follow us here:
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Contact us:
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818-850-2448
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Oct 13, 2025 • 1h 11min
Perfection is the Problem | #103
Lou and Michael unpack wabi sabi, the beauty of imperfection—talking therapy, accountability, control, and what it means to be seen before you’re “fixed.”
BetterHelp:
If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our sponsor. Visit https://betterhelp.com/secondhandtherapy for a discount on your first month of therapy.
If you have questions about the brand relating to how the therapists are credentialed, their privacy policy, or therapist compensation, here is an overview written by the YouTube creators behind the channel Cinema Therapy that goes into these topics: https://www.reddit.com/r/cinema_therapy/comments/1dpriql/addressing_the_betterhelp_concerns_headon_deep/
The Maca Team:
Louie really does take Maca every day. (He takes Black and Tri-Blend). He loves it.
http://themacateam.com/secondhandtherapy
promo code: bearcub for 10% off
Light Phone:
Louie really does have and use a Light Phone III. He loves it.
https://www.thelightphone.com/shop?ref=mmexymn
promo code: secondhandtherapy for $50 off pre-order of Light Phone III
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This week on Secondhand Therapy, Lou and Michael dive into the Japanese philosophy of wabi sabi—the art of imperfection—and unpack what it means to be seen while you’re still in pieces. They talk accountability versus blame, how guilt and control intertwine, and why savoring small moments might be the real therapy. With stories from real life and a mix of humor, ego, and introspection, this episode explores the messy middle of growth, relationships, and being human.
BUSINESS INQUIRIES: business@secondhandtherapypod.com
Support the pod:
PATREON - http://patreon.com/secondhandtherapypod
MERCH - http://secondhandtherapypod.com
Follow us here:
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Contact us:
secondhandtherapypod@gmail.com
818-850-2448
PO BOX 230595, Las Vegas, NV 89105

Oct 6, 2025 • 1h 1min
When Childhood Fear Becomes Adult Anxiety | #102
Michael and Lou unpack how childhood trauma fuels anxiety, codependency, and fear of abandonment. A raw mix of therapy insights, humor, and hard truths on boundaries, recovery, and self-worth.
BetterHelp:
If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our sponsor. Visit https://betterhelp.com/secondhandtherapy for a discount on your first month of therapy.
If you have questions about the brand relating to how the therapists are credentialed, their privacy policy, or therapist compensation, here is an overview written by the YouTube creators behind the channel Cinema Therapy that goes into these topics: https://www.reddit.com/r/cinema_therapy/comments/1dpriql/addressing_the_betterhelp_concerns_headon_deep/
The Maca Team:
Louie really does take Maca every day. (He takes Black and Tri-Blend). He loves it.
http://themacateam.com/secondhandtherapy
promo code: bearcub for 10% off
Light Phone:
Louie really does have and use a Light Phone III. He loves it.
https://www.thelightphone.com/shop?ref=mmexymn
promo code: secondhandtherapy for $50 off pre-order of Light Phone III
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In this episode of Secondhand Therapy, Michael and Lou dive deep into the messy intersections of childhood trauma, codependency, and the fear of abandonment. What starts as a simple conversation about space in friendship unravels into a raw exploration of why small conflicts can feel catastrophic, how anxiety distorts reality, and why it’s so hard to separate present struggles from old patterns.
They talk candidly about boundaries, people-pleasing, and how growing up under constant fear leaves a permanent mark on self-worth. With sharp humor and unfiltered honesty, they reflect on therapy sessions, personal breakthroughs, and the exhausting cycle of trying to protect every relationship at the cost of their own peace.
This is an episode for anyone who has wrestled with low self-esteem, overthinking, or the nagging belief that every disagreement might mean the end. Through laughter, vulnerability, and plenty of hard truths, Michael and Lou remind us that recovery is less about erasing the past and more about learning to live with it without letting it define us.
BUSINESS INQUIRIES: business@secondhandtherapypod.com
Support the pod:
PATREON - http://patreon.com/secondhandtherapypod
MERCH - http://secondhandtherapypod.com
Follow us here:
http://instagram.com/secondhandtherapypod
http://tiktok.com/@secondhandtherapypod
Contact us:
secondhandtherapypod@gmail.com
818-850-2448
PO BOX 230595, Las Vegas, NV 89105


