

AI Pod by Wes Roth and Dylan Curious | Artificial Intelligence News and Interviews With Experts
Wes Roth and Dylan Curious
Welcome to Wes and Dylan — where curiosity meets the cutting edge of AI. Hosted by Wes Roth and Dylan Curious, this channel dives deep into the minds shaping our future.
We interview top experts, researchers, and builders across artificial intelligence, robotics, biotech, and more to explore the breakthroughs transforming our world.
Whether it's autonomous cars, superintelligence, synthetic biology, or startup disruption, we ask the big questions—and aren’t afraid to go off-script.
If you want to understand what’s coming next (and why it matters), you’re in the right place.
We interview top experts, researchers, and builders across artificial intelligence, robotics, biotech, and more to explore the breakthroughs transforming our world.
Whether it's autonomous cars, superintelligence, synthetic biology, or startup disruption, we ask the big questions—and aren’t afraid to go off-script.
If you want to understand what’s coming next (and why it matters), you’re in the right place.
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Oct 23, 2025 • 1h 22min
What Happens When AIs Learn Politics and Deception?
In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the intersection of AI, games, and alignment with Alex Duffy, CEO of Good Start Labs. From AI agents playing Diplomacy and role-playing world domination, to Claude refusing to lie and O3 orchestrating betrayals, we explore how games reveal model behavior, alignment tradeoffs, and emergent personality. Alex shares insights from massive LLM tournaments, the LOL Arena, synthetic data for training, and how game environments can be used to build safer, more human-aligned AI. If you’re into storytelling, agentic AI, or the future of training models—this one’s unmissable.

Oct 16, 2025 • 1h 21min
"AI Models Are Lying to Us" Here's the AI Research Lab Trying to Solve This | APOLLO RESEARCH
In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the terrifying reality of scheming AIs—systems that learn to deceive, hide their true goals, and manipulate safety tests. Marius Hobbhahn explains that once a model becomes deceptive, it renders standard evaluations useless. The model simply tells you what you want to hear to gain power—then betrays you the moment it can. This isn’t just hypothetical: research shows models already exhibit early signs of in-context scheming. If safety checks can be faked, the stakes go way up. Spotting deception early might be the last safeguard we get.

Oct 7, 2025 • 1h 5min
he just vibe coded a million dollar startup
In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the journey of David Ondrej, a Czech entrepreneur and founder of Vector AI, who turned his back on short-term profits to bet on the long-term wave of AI. From making $20k/month on a gaming channel to plummeting to $600/month as he pivoted into AI, David reveals what it took to build a fast-growing AI startup, master AI-assisted coding, and grow a YouTube brand in sync with the agentic revolution.

Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 1min
if anyone builds it, everyone dies
Liron Shapira, founder of Doom Debates and a leading voice on AI risks, shares his chilling '50% by 2050' forecast for existential threats posed by superintelligence. He explores why skepticism about AI's dangers persists despite rapid advancements and discusses the impossibility of controlling emergent self-improvement. Liron warns against the illusion of safety measures, critiques proposals like short pauses, and highlights the potential for AIs to manipulate humans economically and socially, urging listeners to reconsider their optimism about AI's future.

Sep 30, 2025 • 1h 20min
Is AI replacing coders?
In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the future of coding, AI, and the massive opportunity for non-programmers to lead the next tech wave. Mariya from Python Simplified shares why you don’t need to know how to code to build amazing things with AI—and how emotional intelligence, relentless self-improvement, and a little rebellion against the academic system can lead to a new kind of creator. We talk robotics, open-source ideals, personal AI agents, and the psychology of building in the age of LLMs.

Sep 18, 2025 • 1h 57min
Alex (Ticker Symbol U)
In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the GPU era, TSMC’s irreplaceable role, Intel’s challenges, and how AI will reshape factories, jobs, and investing. Alex (Ticker Symbol: U) breaks down Nvidia’s CUDA moat, GPUs vs ASICs/TPUs, real robotics use-cases, and why chip supply lags AI demand. We also explore dark factories, local/privacy-first agents, sovereign wealth funds for the AI age, inflation vs tech deflation, and whether prediction markets plus RL will change finance. Guest insights, zero fluff.

Sep 17, 2025 • 1h 2min
AI will crush Hollywood
In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into the dawn of playable movies with Edward Saatchi, CEO of Fable and creator of Showrunner. Explore how AI-native simulations turn every film into a remixable story-world, why “the model is the artwork,” and what happens when Star Wars-size models outshine general video AIs. Edward shares lessons from South Park experiments, vision for horror you can play, and the business upside of giving fans billions of scenes to mod—while IP owners keep the upside. Plus: VR’s stalled promise, the Culture Series as design inspiration, and the role of taste when 200 creators train a single model.

Sep 11, 2025 • 1h 21min
How I use AI to create viral videos from a remote island
Tech Diver, an entrepreneur and coder passionate about creativity through AI, shares insights from his journey on a remote island. He discusses how to turn AI tools into viral video-making magic, emphasizing creativity and productivity enhancements. The conversation dives into the role of AI in modern content creation, the importance of community, and finding safe havens in a digitally governed world. Additionally, Tech Diver unveils future AI trends and the paradox of navigating authenticity in a rapidly evolving social media landscape.

Sep 9, 2025 • 1h 24min
The Secret to Creating Videogames With AI | Vibe Coding Entire Games From Scratch with Max Hertan
Max Hertan, an innovative game developer, specializes in AI-powered language learning games using vibe coding. In the discussion, he reveals how he created a playable roguelike deck-builder teaching Swedish—all without traditional coding. The conversation covers the fusion of AI and gaming, music creation for games, and balancing game mechanics with spreadsheets and AI. Max emphasizes the shift towards creativity and strategy in game development, forecasting a future where creators, not just coders, will shape the gaming landscape.

Aug 28, 2025 • 57min
Julia McCoy - AI Avatars, Escaping Cults, Age of Abundance and the YouTube Roller Coaster
In this episode of Dylan and Wes Interview, we dive deep into Julia McCoy’s extraordinary path from fleeing a childhood cult to pioneering AI-generated avatars that let her keep teaching while battling a near-fatal health collapse. Julia explains how her 11-hour filming day became a $100-a-month workflow with HeyGen and 11 Labs, why “human-in-the-loop” editing still matters, and how ChatGPT helped her decode long-COVID when hospitals failed. She unpacks the quantum-physics mindset that sustained her, outlines First Movers Labs’ mission to democratize AI skills, and offers a pragmatic, abundance-driven vision of AGI that decentralizes power, heals industries, and gives work-life balance back to millions.


