The Cash Flow Contractor

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Oct 30, 2025 • 1h 3min

279 - Buying the Business You Work For: Turning Experience into Ownership with Shaun Sykes

Discover how 29-year-old Shaun Sykes transformed from a labor worker dragging brush to the proud owner of Arbor Image, a thriving tree care company. In this revealing conversation, Shaun shares the exact systems that allowed him to cut $47,000 in monthly overhead, increase gross profit margins from 40% to over 60%, and structure a successful ownership transition—all while making both clients and team members happier.What You’ll LearnHow to identify and cut unnecessary overhead that's killing your profitsPractical strategies to increase your gross margins by 20%+ within monthsWhy your pricing fears are holding you back (and how to overcome them)How to implement pay-for-performance systems that make your team more efficientWays to leverage global talent to multiply your business capabilitiesTime Stamps01:16 - The Glass Wall Incident03:30 -Tree Talk: Assessing the Yard04:37 -Meet Shaun Sykes: From Laborer to Arborist08:35 -The Business of Tree Care17:36 -Taking Ownership: The Journey to Becoming a Business Owner34:16 -Legal Aspects of the Deal37:56 -Cutting Overhead Costs43:46 -Leveraging Virtual Assistants for EfficiencySnippets from the Episode"My unique skill isn't being an arborist, it's aligning incentives. That is my number one skill. I love writing up incentive plans and working with the team on bonus programs." - Shaun Sykes, Owner of Arbor Image"We were paying out less money per job on labor than we ever had, and they are making more money than they've ever had." - Shaun Sykes on the pay-for-performance results"We made a 20% price increase, didn't see a drop in close rate. So we took another 20-30% increase, and then finally saw a small drop to about 50% close rate." - Shaun Sykes on pricing courage"The biggest thing that started the confidence to make changes was getting our marketing in order and having way more than enough leads." - Shaun Sykes on transformation catalyst"Nearly every change we were scared to make ended up getting us more customers because we came across as more professional."- Shaun Sykes on implementing systemsKey TakeawaysStart with your bookkeepingTrack every lead source religiouslyRaise prices until you see resistanceAlign incentives across your entire teamCut overhead ruthlessly ($47,000 monthly)Require deposits and payment methods on fileLeverage global talent for critical admin rolesResources⁠⁠⁠24 Things⁠⁠⁠ Construction Business Owners Need to Successfully Hire & Train an Executive Assistant⁠⁠⁠Schedule⁠⁠⁠ a 15-Minute Roadblock CallCheck out⁠⁠⁠ OpenPhone⁠⁠⁠Build a Business that Runs without you. Explore our⁠⁠⁠ GrowthKits⁠⁠⁠ Need Marketing Help? We Recommend⁠⁠⁠ Benali⁠⁠⁠Need Help with podcast production? We recommend⁠⁠⁠ Demandcast⁠⁠⁠More from Shaun SykesShaun Sykes - Owner, Arbor ImageArbor Image websiteMore from Martin Holland⁠⁠⁠theprofitproblem.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠annealbc.com⁠⁠⁠   ⁠⁠⁠Email Martin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Martin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠More from Khalil⁠⁠⁠benali.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠More from The Cash Flow ContractorSubscribe to our⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to our ⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠Follow On Social:⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ Facebook⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠X(formerly Twitter)⁠⁠⁠Visit our ⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email⁠⁠⁠ The Cashflow Contractor
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Oct 23, 2025 • 58min

278 - Maximize Your Contractor Business Sale: How Private Equity Values What You've Built with Christian Olson

Christian Olson, an investment banker and M&A advisor at Footprint Capital, reveals strategies for maximizing contractor business sales. He discusses how standardizing systems boosts valuations, the critical role of culture in deals, and the importance of preparation for acquisitions. Christian highlights the difference between business brokers and investment bankers, emphasizes the value of a solid tech stack, and warns against accepting initial offers without knowing true worth. Engage with expert insights on becoming a 'platform company' to ensure long-term benefits.
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Oct 16, 2025 • 55min

277 - Planning Your Exit: Building a Business That Doesn’t Need You with Aaron Mills

Aaron Mills, a construction finance and accounting expert with over 20 years of experience, discusses how to create a construction business that operates independently of its owner. He shares success stories, including how one contractor skyrocketed from $30M to $90M while reducing their work hours to just a few per week. Mills emphasizes the power of accurate financials, the importance of WIP schedules, and practical strategies for freeing owners from daily operations, ensuring the business remains profitable and valuable.
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Oct 9, 2025 • 54min

276 - The #1 Mistake Contractors Make When Hiring (and How to Build a Team That Stays) with Ryan Englin

Ryan Englin, founder of Core Matters and expert in recruitment marketing, reveals that hiring issues often stem from a marketing perspective rather than an HR one. He discusses innovative methods to attract and retain quality talent by treating recruitment like a marketing initiative. Englin emphasizes creating a 'bench' of candidates, measuring behaviors instead of hours, and establishing engaging systems to keep employees invested. He also highlights the hidden costs of bad hires and the importance of nurturing a positive work environment.
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Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 4min

275 - Get the Most Out of Your Team: Daily Huddles, Employee Incentives & Smart Software Tips

Unlock your team's potential with daily huddles that enhance clarity and accountability in just 10 minutes. Explore how tailored employee incentives can boost morale, steering clear of the common pitfalls. Learn the importance of choosing the right software to improve productivity and profitability. Discover creative ways to motivate your crew beyond monetary rewards, including recognition strategies aligned with personal values. Plus, get insights on leveraging AI for better communication and effective knowledge management within your team.
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Sep 25, 2025 • 1h 10min

274 - Finding Your Financial Independence Number with Chad Hufford

Is your business building your wealth, or just funding your lifestyle? In this eye-opening conversation with financial advisor Chad Hufford, we break down how contractors can define their "target number" for financial independence and create a clear path to achieve it—without sacrificing the present. Discover practical strategies to build wealth both inside and outside your business.What You’ll LearnHow to calculate your specific "target number" for financial independenceWhy creating a "work-optional lifestyle" is crucial for business ownersThe proven debt elimination strategy that creates momentum for wealth buildingHow to balance business cash reserves with personal financial planningWhy most financial advice fails (and what actually works for contractors)Time Stamps01:04 - Episode Intro01:28 - Life Lessons and Reflections02:58 - Guest Intro04:05 - Importance of Having a Financial Plan05:15 - Proactive Financial Strategies07:59   - Creating a Closer Relationship with our Future10:36 - Setting Financial Goals27:39 - Living Within Your Means32:54 - Debt Elimination Strategies37:20 - Investing for the Future38:02 - Customizing Your Financial Plan39:07 - Mortgage vs. Investment Dilemma40:58 - Consumer Debt and Long-Term Goals44:08 - Business Cash Reserves46:53 - Investment Strategies and Diversification53:18 - The Role of a Financial Advisor56:49 - The Importance of Adherence01:00:58 - Building a Long-Term Financial Vision01:05:49 - Final Thoughts and Getting StartedSnippets from the Episode"Nobody would ever buy a house that was built without a blueprint, but too often we let our futures unfold without one. We end up being a little more haphazard, sometimes aimless."— Chad Hufford"If you don't know where you're going and you start feeling lost, the tendency is to just go faster, to double down on everything you're already doing."— Chad Hufford"Education without execution is merely entertainment. If you are learning things without implementing them in your life, you're not gonna get much benefit."— Chad HuffordKey TakeawaysDefine Your Financial Independence Target NumberReduce Personal Lifestyle Expenses Before Building WealthPay Off Consumer Debt Before Aggressive InvestingBuild Business Cash Reserves of 3+ MonthsFocus on Investment Income, Not PrincipalDiversify Like an Orchard, Not a Single TreeChoose a Financial Advisor Who Holds You AccountableResources⁠⁠24 Things ⁠⁠⁠⁠Construction Business Owners Need to Successfully Hire & Train an Executive Assistant⁠⁠⁠⁠Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠ a 15-Minute Roadblock CallCheck out⁠⁠⁠⁠ OpenPhone⁠⁠⁠⁠Build a Business that Runs without you. Explore our ⁠⁠⁠⁠GrowthKits ⁠⁠⁠⁠Need Marketing Help? We Recommend⁠⁠⁠⁠ Benali⁠⁠⁠⁠Need Help with podcast production? We recommend ⁠⁠⁠⁠Demandcast⁠⁠⁠⁠More from Chad HuffordChad Hufford - Financial Advisor, Veritas AlaskaWebsite: Veritas AlaskaVeritas Alaska PodcastLinkedIn: Chad HuffordMore from Martin Holland⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theprofitproblem.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠annealbc.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email Martin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Martin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠More from Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠benali.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠More from The Cash Flow ContractorSubscribe to our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow On Social: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X(formerly Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visit our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Cashflow Contractor
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Sep 18, 2025 • 37min

273 - Setting Clear Employee Expectations: What's The Minimum vs. What Drives Success

In this candid discussion, Martin and Khalil tackle the frustrating challenge of employees who do the bare minimum versus those who go above and beyond. They explore how contractors can set clear expectations, build a performance-driven culture, and address the difficult conversations most business owners avoid. Whether your team is underperforming or you're struggling with how to promote the right people, this episode delivers practical strategies for building a team that cares about your business as much as you do.What You’ll LearnWhy setting dual expectations creates confusion and poor performanceHow to hire for character and train for skills instead of settling for experienced mediocrityWhen to replace employees who don't align with your company cultureWhy promoting based on tenure instead of potential damages your businessHow to effectively onboard new employees with a two-week intensive approachTime Stamps00:55 - Episode Intro01:52 - Balancing Business Leverage and Personal Well-being04:23 - Real-life Examples of Employee Management09:20 - Setting Clear Expectations and Performance Standards16:55 - Hiring for Character and Training Newbies21:33 - Promoting for Potential vs. Performance26:43 - Employee ReviewsSnippets from the Episode"When you delay difficult conversations, they accrue interest. That guy that's been there for 20 years probably should have had a conversation 19 years ago."— Khalil Benalioulhaj"The only people available to be hired are either malcontent, unhappy, inexperienced, or incompetent."— Martin Holland (quoting his father)"When you hire people, you have to be absolutely crystal clear on expectations. And you have to self-examine and make sure you don't have dual expectations."— Martin Holland"Clear is kind. If you can start your conversation with what this is about and how it's going to end, then that's great."— Khalil BenalioulhajKey TakeawaysDon't Set Minimum Standards That Become AnchorsLead By Example To Create A Culture Of ExcellenceHire For Character, Train For SkillsReplace Underperformers QuicklyPromote Based On Potential, Not TenureHave Difficult Conversations EarlyDedicate Two Weeks To Proper OnboardingResources⁠24 Things ⁠⁠⁠Construction Business Owners Need to Successfully Hire & Train an Executive Assistant⁠⁠⁠Schedule⁠⁠⁠ a 15-Minute Roadblock CallCheck out⁠⁠⁠ OpenPhone⁠⁠⁠Build a Business that Runs without you. Explore our ⁠⁠⁠GrowthKits ⁠⁠⁠Need Marketing Help? We Recommend⁠⁠⁠ Benali⁠⁠⁠Need Help with podcast production? We recommend ⁠⁠⁠Demandcast⁠⁠⁠More from Martin Holland⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theprofitproblem.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠annealbc.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email Martin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Martin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠More from Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠benali.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Meet With Khalil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠More from The Cash Flow ContractorSubscribe to our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow On Social: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X(formerly Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visit our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Cashflow ContractorConnect with UsVisit cashflowcontractor.com for more episodes and resources to help you build a contracting business with less stress, more time, and more money. Subscribe to our podcast on your favorite platform and follow us on social media for daily insights into growing your contracting business.
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Sep 11, 2025 • 44min

272 - Stop Juggling Everything: How Contractors Can Buy Back Their Time with John Nieuwenburg

Business coach John Nieuwenburg, an expert in helping construction owners in British Columbia, shares valuable insights on reclaiming time. He emphasizes how contractors often waste 5-7 hours a week on low-value tasks. John discusses the importance of delegation, particularly using virtual assistants, to foster leadership skills. He introduces the concept of ‘attention’ as a vital resource and offers practical strategies for enhancing team culture and building a reliable talent bench, enabling contractors to focus on high-impact work.
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Sep 4, 2025 • 1h 10min

271 - What If You Could Double Profits Without Doubling Your Effort? with Todd Hagopian

Todd Hagopian, an author and business turnaround expert, introduces his innovative Hypomanic Operational Turnaround (HOT) system, designed to revitalize struggling enterprises in 6-12 months. He emphasizes the impact of aggressive 80/20 strategies and grandiose goal setting on profitability. The discussion includes practical advice on executing 52 improvement projects in a year without overwhelming teams and leveraging pricing strategies for optimal profit margins. Todd also shares insights on harnessing bipolar strengths to inspire creativity and drive business success.
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Aug 28, 2025 • 57min

270 - Stop Losing Sales: The 7 Principles of Persuasion Every Contractor Should Know with Tara Landes

Tara Landes, a certified Cialdini trainer and business systems expert, shares invaluable insights for contractors. She reveals the seven principles of persuasion that can ethically influence clients and enhance team dynamics. From increasing customer retention through strategic price adjustments to managing toxic team members effectively, Tara provides actionable strategies. Learn how small changes in communication can lead to big sales improvements and the power of personalized engagement in building lasting client relationships.

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