
Secondary Rules
Join legal scholars Ryan Goss and Joshua Neoh as they discuss public law and legal theory in their podcast, Secondary Rules. In each episode, Ryan and Joshua bring to life exciting cases, puzzles, and controversies from Australia and around the world - exploring some of the biggest questions facing any legal system, and the legal questions that define our democracy.
Ryan and Joshua are both associate professors at The Australian National University (ANU) College of Law in Canberra, teaching and researching Australian public law and legal theory. Whether you're a lawyer, a law student or just somebody interested in better understanding the legal world around us, Secondary Rules is a must-listen podcast.
Season 3: Ten(ish) Big Ideas
Season 2: Ten Great Cases.
Season 1: Two Great Courses.
Latest episodes

Jul 29, 2022 • 36min
Crafty Serpent
This week on Secondary Rules, Joshua Neoh and Ryan Goss talk about constitutionalism, constitutional change, and the crafty serpent in the Garden of Eden. Waluchow on Constitutionalism Extract from the book of Genesis If you're a student in Australian Public Law or Legal Theory this semester, more available on the course WATTLE sites. Interested in starting your own law studies or learning more about our legal research? Learn more here. Our thanks to Jack O’Brien, Tom Fearon, and the ANU College of Law for their production of the podcast. Our theme music is by Soul Shifters. ANU acknowledges and celebrates the First Australians on whose traditional lands we meet, and pays our respect to Elders past and present.

Jul 17, 2022 • 1min
Trailer: Welcome to Secondary Rules
It's here! Welcome to Secondary Rules, a new podcast presented by Associate Professors Ryan Goss and Joshua Neoh. Listen as they preview what you can expect each week as they unpack timely developments in Australian public law and legal theory.