

Artificiality: Being with AI
Helen and Dave Edwards
Artificiality was founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence. We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We publish essays, podcasts, and research on AI including a Pro membership, providing advanced research to leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI. Learn more at www.artificiality.world.
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Dec 12, 2021 • 1h 2min
Stephen Fleming: Metacognition
It’s human to know oneself. We are able to self-monitor, understand our cognition, and recognize gaps in our knowledge. This is called metacognition—we think about how we think. We can think of it as self-awareness or the ability to understand the state of our knowledge. In this episode, we talk with Stephen Fleming, Professor of Cognitive Neuroscience at University College London.
Steve has recently published a book on this topic called Know Thyself. We wanted to explore a number of ideas with him—metacognition as uniquely human, as an important skill, whether machines need to have some form of awareness and the issue of agency and machines.
In his book, Steve proposes that we either put self-awareness into machines, thereby reducing our need for self-awareness, or design interfaces that increase human self-awareness. If we have self-aware machines then we risk losing our own. If we want better self-awareness we must prioritize how an AI metacognition can show us its uncertainty and error. This second route is more likely to result in humans retaining autonomy. It preserves the human role of wrestling uncertainty, seeking explanations, and making sense of the world. Perhaps the biggest insight for us regarding agency and AI is how to think about it as having a structure. We talk about how true autonomy is aligning our choices and wants and how machines play a role.
About Artficiality from Helen & Dave Edwards:
Artificiality is a research and services business founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence and complex change. Our weekly publication provides thought-provoking ideas, science reviews, and market research and our monthly research releases provides leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI in their organizations. We provide research-based and expert-led AI strategy and complex change management services to organizations around the world.
We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers who aim to make the philosophical more practical and the practical more philosophical. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We are dedicated to unraveling the profound impact of AI on our society, communities, workplaces, and personal lives.
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Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music
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Jul 23, 2021 • 52min
Jevin West: Making Sense of Data
Have you ever wondered what it means to be data literate in a world of big data and AI? Now that so many decisions rely on information that is only readable by machine and our statistical intuitions, which were bad before, are now practically useless, what is data literacy in the age of AI and how important is it? We talked with Jevin West, assistant professor in the Information School at the University of Washington, co-founder of the DataLab, director of the Center for an Informed Public and co-author of the acclaimed book Calling B******t to ask these questions and more.
About Artficiality from Helen & Dave Edwards:
Artificiality is a research and services business founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence and complex change. Our weekly publication provides thought-provoking ideas, science reviews, and market research and our monthly research releases provides leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI in their organizations. We provide research-based and expert-led AI strategy and complex change management services to organizations around the world.
We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers who aim to make the philosophical more practical and the practical more philosophical. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We are dedicated to unraveling the profound impact of AI on our society, communities, workplaces, and personal lives.
Subscribe for free at https://www.artificiality.world.
If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds.
Learn more about Sonder Studio
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Learn about our book Make Better Decisions and buy it on Amazon
Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.artificiality.world.
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Jul 13, 2021 • 43min
Michael Bungay Stanier: Staying Curious
Have you wondered what makes people different from machines? Well one thing is curiosity—curiosity is something that drives humans but as yet not machines. And one person that knows humans and curiosity is Michael Bungay Stanier, coach extraordinaire and well-known author of the best selling books The Coaching Habit and The Advice Trap.
We first met Michael at the House of Beautiful Business, a very special community that gathers in Lisbon each year to make humans more human and business more beautiful. All three of us will be back at the House again this November and we highly encourage you to join in person or online.
In this interview, we wanted to find out what makes a good coach. According to Michael, it is being able to stay curious just a little bit longer. Perhaps that is what will make humans better coaches than AI for a while yet.
About Artficiality from Helen & Dave Edwards:
Artificiality is a research and services business founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence and complex change. Our weekly publication provides thought-provoking ideas, science reviews, and market research and our monthly research releases provides leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI in their organizations. We provide research-based and expert-led AI strategy and complex change management services to organizations around the world.
We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers who aim to make the philosophical more practical and the practical more philosophical. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We are dedicated to unraveling the profound impact of AI on our society, communities, workplaces, and personal lives.
Subscribe for free at https://www.artificiality.world.
If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds.
Learn more about Sonder Studio
Subscribe to get Artificiality delivered to your email
Learn about our book Make Better Decisions and buy it on Amazon
Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.artificiality.world.
#ai #artificialintelligence #generativeai #airesearch #complexity #futureofai

Jul 7, 2021 • 41min
Mollie Pettit: Visualizing Data
Making decisions with data requires some form of communication with data. But how do we communicate with numbers and characters and binary bits? The best way today is through data visualization.
Visualizing data has come a long way since the early days of hand-drawn charts and graphs. Starting with the desktop publishing revolution of the 1980s through to the current world of data viz tools in the cloud, anyone can create a graphical representation of data. While in many ways this democratization of data visualization is a good thing, it also means we're awash with charts and graphs, many of which unintentionally don't tell the story intended. Some intentionally mislead.
Visualizing data well is more complex than you might think and that's why we reached out to a true expert in the field, Mollie Pettit, to talk about how she approaches visualization. In particular, we were interested in some of the more complex issues like how to visualize confidence in data.
About Artficiality from Helen & Dave Edwards:
Artificiality is a research and services business founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence and complex change. Our weekly publication provides thought-provoking ideas, science reviews, and market research and our monthly research releases provides leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI in their organizations. We provide research-based and expert-led AI strategy and complex change management services to organizations around the world.
We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers who aim to make the philosophical more practical and the practical more philosophical. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We are dedicated to unraveling the profound impact of AI on our society, communities, workplaces, and personal lives.
Subscribe for free at https://www.artificiality.world.
If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds.
Learn more about Sonder Studio
Subscribe to get Artificiality delivered to your email
Learn about our book Make Better Decisions and buy it on Amazon
Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.artificiality.world.
#ai #artificialintelligence #generativeai #airesearch #complexity #futureofai

Jun 29, 2021 • 1h 28min
Josh Lovejoy: Designing AI
Have you ever wondered about what it takes to design AI that doesn’t do more harm than good? We speak with Josh Lovejoy who is perhaps the most experienced out there in the field of human-centered AI design. At the time of our recording, Josh was Head of Design for Microsoft’s Ethics & Society team. Since our recording, Josh has taken a role as a UX Manager in Google’s Privacy & Data Protection Office. We started our interview by asking Josh why human-centered design is so important when working with AI.
About Artficiality from Helen & Dave Edwards:
Artificiality is a research and services business founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence and complex change. Our weekly publication provides thought-provoking ideas, science reviews, and market research and our monthly research releases provides leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI in their organizations. We provide research-based and expert-led AI strategy and complex change management services to organizations around the world.
We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers who aim to make the philosophical more practical and the practical more philosophical. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We are dedicated to unraveling the profound impact of AI on our society, communities, workplaces, and personal lives.
Subscribe for free at https://www.artificiality.world.
If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds.
Learn more about Sonder Studio
Subscribe to get Artificiality delivered to your email
Learn about our book Make Better Decisions and buy it on Amazon
Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.artificiality.world.
#ai #artificialintelligence #generativeai #airesearch #complexity #futureofai

Jun 21, 2021 • 44min
Kate O'Neill: Humanizing Tech
Have you ever wondered what it means to be a humanist in the age of technology? How can we put human values into a machine? How can we even know what those human values are? We asked Kate O’Neill, founder of KO Insights and author of the Tech Humanist, this question and found that there’s a lot to work with when it comes to understanding humans and what they might want their machines to do.
About Artficiality from Helen & Dave Edwards:
Artificiality is a research and services business founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence and complex change. Our weekly publication provides thought-provoking ideas, science reviews, and market research and our monthly research releases provides leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI in their organizations. We provide research-based and expert-led AI strategy and complex change management services to organizations around the world.
We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers who aim to make the philosophical more practical and the practical more philosophical. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We are dedicated to unraveling the profound impact of AI on our society, communities, workplaces, and personal lives.
Subscribe for free at https://www.artificiality.world.
If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds.
Learn more about Sonder Studio
Subscribe to get Artificiality delivered to your email
Learn about our book Make Better Decisions and buy it on Amazon
Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.artificiality.world.
#ai #artificialintelligence #generativeai #airesearch #complexity #futureofai

Jun 15, 2021 • 49min
Tania Lombrozo: Intuition and data
Have you ever wondered why we humans love to use our intuition even when we are surrounded by data and we also know that even simple algorithms can be more accurate than human judgment? We put that exact question to Tania Lombrozo, Arthur W. Marks ’19 Professor of Psychology and director of the Concepts & Cognition Lab at Princeton University, and it turns out that the answer is surprisingly complex.
About Artficiality from Helen & Dave Edwards:
Artificiality is a research and services business founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence and complex change. Our weekly publication provides thought-provoking ideas, science reviews, and market research and our monthly research releases provides leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI in their organizations. We provide research-based and expert-led AI strategy and complex change management services to organizations around the world.
We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers who aim to make the philosophical more practical and the practical more philosophical. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We are dedicated to unraveling the profound impact of AI on our society, communities, workplaces, and personal lives.
Subscribe for free at https://www.artificiality.world.
If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds.
Learn more about Sonder Studio
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Learn about our book Make Better Decisions and buy it on Amazon
Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.artificiality.world.
#ai #artificialintelligence #generativeai #airesearch #complexity #futureofai

Jun 7, 2021 • 52min
Steven Sloman: Trusting knowledge
Join Steven Sloman, a Professor of Cognitive, Linguistic and Psychological Sciences at Brown University, as he dives into the intriguing concept of the Knowledge Illusion—how we often believe we know more than we truly do. He discusses the cognitive challenges of explaining intuitive ideas, the dynamics of relying on community knowledge, and how our understanding is affected by AI. Sloman emphasizes the need for humility, open dialogue, and awareness of our cognitive limitations in a world increasingly influenced by technology.

Jun 9, 2020 • 47min
Rana el Kaliouby of Affectiva on emotional AI
In this episode, we have a conversation with Rana el Kaliouby, CEO and Co-Founder of Affectiva, about emotional AI, bias in AI and her new book, Girl Decoded. Rana is a leader in her views on ethical AI and how to design AI systems for humans—two topics that are near to our hearts! We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.
Note we open with a short conversation about IBM’s announcement about no longer selling general purpose facial recognition technology—an unusual step for a big tech platform to cancel a product line for ethical reasons.
About Artficiality from Helen & Dave Edwards:
Artificiality is a research and services business founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence and complex change. Our weekly publication provides thought-provoking ideas, science reviews, and market research and our monthly research releases provides leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI in their organizations. We provide research-based and expert-led AI strategy and complex change management services to organizations around the world.
We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers who aim to make the philosophical more practical and the practical more philosophical. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We are dedicated to unraveling the profound impact of AI on our society, communities, workplaces, and personal lives.
Subscribe for free at https://www.artificiality.world.
If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds.
Learn more about Sonder Studio
Subscribe to get Artificiality delivered to your email
Learn about our book Make Better Decisions and buy it on Amazon
Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.artificiality.world.
#ai #artificialintelligence #generativeai #airesearch #complexity #futureofai

Jun 7, 2020 • 42min
Renée Cummings of Urban AI on urban AI
In this episode we have a conversation with Renée Cummings, Founder & CEO of Urban AI, about the issues and opportunities for AI in urban settings. While we recorded this before the current protests, our conversation with Renée couldn’t be more timely as we talk about the use of AI in law enforcement and recruiting. We think Renée’s specialized focus on AI in urban settings will be essential to understand as we, as a society, seek to bring people together and rise up out of the conflicts and economic strife that are hurting so many today.
About Artficiality from Helen & Dave Edwards:
Artificiality is a research and services business founded in 2019 to help people make sense of artificial intelligence and complex change. Our weekly publication provides thought-provoking ideas, science reviews, and market research and our monthly research releases provides leaders with actionable intelligence and insights for applying AI in their organizations. We provide research-based and expert-led AI strategy and complex change management services to organizations around the world.
We are artificial philosophers and meta-researchers who aim to make the philosophical more practical and the practical more philosophical. We believe that understanding AI requires synthesizing research across disciplines: behavioral economics, cognitive science, complexity science, computer science, decision science, design, neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology. We are dedicated to unraveling the profound impact of AI on our society, communities, workplaces, and personal lives.
Subscribe for free at https://www.artificiality.world.
If you enjoy our podcasts, please subscribe and leave a positive rating or comment. Sharing your positive feedback helps us reach more people and connect them with the world’s great minds.
Learn more about Sonder Studio
Subscribe to get Artificiality delivered to your email
Learn about our book Make Better Decisions and buy it on Amazon
Thanks to Jonathan Coulton for our music
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.artificiality.world.
#ai #artificialintelligence #generativeai #airesearch #complexity #futureofai