

Lazy Leverage
Jon Matzner and Peter Lohmann
Talking about using leverage in life and business.
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Jan 13, 2026 • 60min
Why AI Adoption Isn't Driving Productivity | Lazy Leverage #91
Have you ever invested in technology only to see no improvement? Small businesses face this frustrating reality. The key isn’t just the tech itself, but how it’s implemented. Discover four crucial steps for technology rollout that many overlook, from identifying what tech can do to updating outdated policies. Learn why simply adopting AI won’t solve growth issues unless it addresses real constraints. The discussion also includes practical examples and creative tactics for maximizing operational efficiency.

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Jan 6, 2026 • 57min
Dashboards, Scorecards, and the Hidden Psychology Behind Manual Data Entry | Lazy Leverage #90
The conversation dives into why elite operators in M&A thrive by elegantly modeling deals while billionaires often avoid risks. Manual data entry is championed for fostering accountability over automation. A crucial distinction is made between scorecards that track controllable activities and dashboards for lagging indicators. The hosts debate whether to judge people based on outcomes or processes, stressing that each metric should have a single owner. They share cautionary tales of perverse incentives and emphasize practical best practices for effective scorecard management.

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Dec 31, 2025 • 48min
The Barbell Approach to Everything: Business Operations, Media Consumption, and Life Changes | Lazy Leverage #89
Peter discusses his feelings of being stuck in midlife, while Jon suggests ketamine therapy as a way to break mental patterns. They explore a 'barbell strategy' for change, advocating for either tiny tweaks or huge commitments. The dilemma of productizing complex solutions is highlighted through their experiences at LeadSimple and Sagan, emphasizing the need for clarity in customer services. Lastly, they talk about the comfort of familiar media, sharing how reruns and beloved books can provide relief in chaotic times.

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Dec 23, 2025 • 44min
How the 37% Rule Solves Hiring, House Hunting, and Life's Biggest Decisions | Lazy Leverage #88
Discover the secrets of the 37% Rule, a clever mathematical strategy for making tough decisions like hiring or house hunting. Learn how interviewing 37% of candidates before making a commitment can maximize your choices. Explore the challenges of when to use time-bound constraints versus knowing total options. Delve into the debate on salary—should pay reflect global standards or individual value? Plus, tips on how to sell opportunities effectively to attract great talent. It's all about making smarter, informed decisions!

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Dec 18, 2025 • 1h 16min
The Single Most Important Business Concept: Theory of Constraints Explained | Lazy Leverage #87
Explore the Theory of Constraints, a game-changing concept that reveals every business has a singular bottleneck impacting throughput. Discover why optimizing non-constraints can be a waste of resources and how strategic idleness can actually boost efficiency. Learn from analogies like F1 pit crews and a chain's weakest link to understand operational implications. The five-step TOC process offers actionable insights, emphasizing profitably aligning resources. Transform your approach by identifying and focusing on that critical constraint!

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Dec 15, 2025 • 54min
The Death of Cover Letters: AI, Costly Signals, and the Broken Job Market | Lazy Leverage #86
AI is shaking up the job market by making traditional signals of candidate quality, like cover letters, obsolete. The hosts discuss how easily AI can generate fraudulent rental applications and legal documents. They critique job marketplaces for increasing hiring costs and advocate for tailored hiring processes. The idea of a new social contract emerges: making applications tougher in exchange for valuable feedback. Role-specific assessments, like real project tests, are proposed to truly gauge a candidate's skills.

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Dec 9, 2025 • 42min
Floors & Ceilings: The Anti-Perfectionist Framework for Business Owners | Lazy Leverage #85
Explore frameworks that reshape small business thinking. Discover how the floors-and-ceilings concept can combat perfectionism by redefining goals. Leaders can benefit from a touch of mystique, adding depth to their authority. The conversation also dives into the implications of using AI in workplace communication, balancing efficiency with the need for a human touch. With innovative ideas on recruiting and feedback, Jon and Peter emphasize the importance of processes before tech, ensuring clarity in all business practices.

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Dec 4, 2025 • 43min
Why Your Best People Are 8,000 Miles Away | Lazy Leverage #84
Jacob Klein, a savvy real estate entrepreneur behind Incline Homes, reveals how his Filipino team dramatically outperforms local workers. He discusses revolutionizing construction by delivering luxury homes at a fraction of the cost, powered by global talent and AI. Jacob shares his journey from micromanaging to embracing a systems-oriented approach, highlighting the importance of outsourcing and evolving leadership roles. With insights on automation and process documentation, he demonstrates how smart hiring can reignite passion and drive business success.

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Nov 21, 2025 • 14min
Building Internal Software That Actually Gets Used | Lazy Leverage #83
In this engaging discussion, Anya Dashligina, a senior leader on Sagan's team in Buenos Aires, shares her insights on transforming internal software. She reveals how Sagan's talent pool concept repurposes vetted candidates for members to hire for free. Anya highlights the initial struggles with clunky PDFs and static posts, paving the way for a sophisticated searchable platform. Her key takeaway? Perfection can hinder progress—embrace iterative development with AI tools to refine and enhance functionality.

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Nov 20, 2025 • 45min
The Barnacle Problem: Why Your Business Keeps Slowing Down | Lazy Leverage #82
Explore the intriguing challenges of business growth, likened to barnacles slowing down a ship. Learn how outdated processes and irrelevant marketing create frustration within teams. Discover the concept of Chesterton's Fence and why analyzing existing structures is vital before making changes. Delve into mapping tasks by identifying outputs, inputs, and transformation processes, helping to uncover hidden inefficiencies. Lastly, understand the importance of focusing on high-value roles, balancing workloads, and creating meaningful job descriptions.


