

Lazy Leverage
Jon Matzner and Peter Lohmann
Talking about using leverage in life and business.
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Nov 14, 2025 • 20min
Radical Candor Across Cultures: High Care, High Honesty | Lazy Leverage #81
Sofía Bravo, Head of Recruitment at Sagan, shares her expertise on cultural dynamics in Latin America. She explains the phenomenon of performative work, where junior team members focus on justifying mistakes rather than analyzing them. Jon and Sofía discuss the importance of radical candor—high care and high honesty—and how leaders can model this behavior to foster psychological safety. They emphasize the need for clear feedback while avoiding defensive responses and highlight the power of selective praise to reinforce desired behaviors.

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Nov 11, 2025 • 18min
Specific, Shared, Supported: The Leadership Standard That Actually Works | Lazy Leverage #80
In this engaging discussion, Christian Ruf, a special operations veteran and founder of Uncommon Elite, shares his expertise on effective leadership. He emphasizes the crucial role of clear expectations in avoiding delegation failures. Christian introduces his three S's framework: Specific, Shared, and Supported. He highlights the importance of making expectations crystal clear, providing context for autonomy, and equipping teams with necessary resources. Plus, the innovative brief-back technique ensures alignment before tasks are executed, preventing miscommunication and enhancing performance.

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Nov 6, 2025 • 47min
Career Transitions Without Burning Bridges | Lazy Leverage #79
Entrepreneurs often find it tough to be present with family while juggling work pressures. The discussion delves into the paradox of physical presence versus mental distraction at home. The hosts explore how household help can actually enhance meaningful family time. Transitioning careers without severing connections is another key theme, emphasizing the importance of reinventing oneself gradually while leveraging past experiences. Relationships are highlighted for their lifelong value, encouraging a smart approach to career moves.

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Oct 30, 2025 • 34min
Military Leadership Meets Small Business Operations: Why Former Operators Make Perfect GMs | Lazy Leverage #78
Christian Ruf, a former special operations helicopter pilot turned executive recruiter, shares his unique perspective on the hiring dynamics of lower-middle-market businesses. He highlights the need for battle-tested leaders who thrive in chaos, especially from the military. Christian discusses two hiring tiers: premium operators with MBAs and tactical GMs, emphasizing the high impact of the latter. He also shares his personal journey of hands-on labor to better understand small businesses, demonstrating the value veterans bring beyond industry experience.

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Oct 28, 2025 • 51min
Why Strategic Partnerships Beat Membership Drives | Lazy Leverage #77
Jon and Peter dive into the power of strategic partnerships, emphasizing how one deal can outweigh months of traditional membership drives. They discuss the difference between systems thinkers and deal-makers, showcasing how the latter can create significant leverage. Vehicle selection within industries is highlighted, as they encourage operators to explore adjacent models for maximizing potential. The duo also shares practical tactics for capitalizing on opportunities, and reflect on the dynamics of community building at conferences.

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Oct 23, 2025 • 31min
The New Manager's Dilemma: Why You Can't Review Every Email | Lazy Leverage #76
Priscilla Montenegro de Nicaragua, a first-time manager at Sagan, delves into the challenges of transitioning from contributor to manager while seeking coaching from Jon. They discuss the danger of micromanagement and the importance of selective oversight, introducing the Marine Corps concept of 'directed telescopes.' The duo distinguishes between acceptable 'aggressive mistakes' and unacceptable 'sloppy mistakes.' Jon emphasizes training her team to anticipate her standards rather than reviewing every email, aiming for a strong collective accountability.

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Oct 21, 2025 • 52min
Building Software Your Team Actually Uses | Lazy Leverage #75
Unlocking the power of AI for small businesses is the focus here. Internal tools trump personal productivity hacks, offering the greatest potential. Jon shares how he transformed hiring processes, screening thousands of applicants in seconds. The hosts advocate for custom tools tailored to unique workflows instead of conforming to existing software. They emphasize identifying business constraints and using AI to solve them, from screening to property management outreach. The conversation concludes with practical applications of AI that cut costs and boost efficiency.

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Oct 15, 2025 • 46min
The Crane Break: Why Taking a Month Off Reveals Everything Wrong With Your Business | Lazy Leverage #74
Stepping away from your business can reveal all the operational flaws you never noticed. The Crane Break strategy is about taking a month off to expose bottlenecks and dependencies. By planning your absence in advance, you create urgency to solve issues, achieving more time freedom. The conversation emphasizes that businesses should serve their owners, pushing you to prioritize your needs. As transaction costs drop, new business models emerge, enabling growth through innovative outsourcing and tech.

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Oct 1, 2025 • 43min
The High-Pay Debate: When to Invest in Expensive Talent | Lazy Leverage #73
Jon and Peter passionately debate their hiring philosophies. Jon advocates for developing entry-level talent, drawing inspiration from Marine Corps culture, while Peter favors hiring proven professionals for immediate impact. They discuss the value of business coaches, with Jon skeptical of their effectiveness compared to Peter’s appreciation for external guidance. The conversation also touches on balancing immediate results with long-term cultural fit, and how predictable revenue can allow for bigger bets on higher-cost hires. Their insights reveal a nuanced approach to team building.

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Sep 12, 2025 • 1h
Why Your Team's AI Tools Are Still Just Fancy Shovels (And How to Force the Bulldozer) | Lazy Leverage #72
Join Jon Matzner, co-founder of Sagan, as he dives into the world of AI in small businesses. The discussion covers how founders can effectively streamline operations through meaningful AI adoption. Jon emphasizes differentiating between tactical and strategic AI use to create real value. He also highlights the need for a strong vision and trust within teams, while navigating leadership challenges. Practical tips on integrating AI tools and fostering innovation are shared, providing listeners with actionable insights for transforming workflows.


