

Wisking it all
Angelo Esposito
Welcome to Wisking it all, where we interview hospitality professionals who put everything on the line to do what they do, and we try to understand how and why?
Contrary to most businesses the hospitality business is mainly made up of people who are passionate about their trade. Not many people go into it for the money but go into it for the passion of delivering a unique customer experience.
Contrary to most businesses the hospitality business is mainly made up of people who are passionate about their trade. Not many people go into it for the money but go into it for the passion of delivering a unique customer experience.
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Apr 9, 2024 • 53min
S2E30 - Crafting Stories in the Culinary World with Danny Klein
About the Episode
Danny Klein, Editorial Director at QSR and FSR magazines, shares his journey to becoming the Editorial Director and discusses the evolution of the restaurant industry. He highlights the growth of fast-casual restaurants after the recession and the emergence of fast-casual 2.0 brands. He also discusses the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on the industry and the challenges faced by restaurants. Danny shares insights from his interview with Andrew Cathy, CEO of Chick-fil-A, and emphasizes the importance of caring for people in the hospitality industry. The conversation explores the impact of COVID-19 on the restaurant industry, with a focus on quick-service restaurants (QSRs) and full-service restaurants (FSRs). It discusses how QSRs were able to secure capital and recover quickly due to their ability to adapt to delivery, curbside pickup, and drive-thru services.
In contrast, FSRs and independent restaurants faced more challenges and are still struggling to recover. The conversation also touches on the importance of independent restaurants in creating vibrant and unique dining experiences in cities. In terms of technology trends, the discussion highlights the adoption of handheld devices, pay-at-the-table kiosks, and kitchen display systems in FSRs. It also mentions the use of robotics in QSRs, although these technologies are still in the early stages of implementation.
Takeaways:
The restaurant industry has evolved significantly, with the growth of fast-casual restaurants and the emergence of fast-casual 2.0 brands.
The COVID-19 pandemic has had a profound impact on the industry, forcing restaurants to adapt to new regulations and challenges.
Interviewing Andrew Cathy, CEO of Chick-fil-A, highlighted the importance of caring for people in the hospitality industry.
The restaurant industry is filled with passionate individuals who are dedicated to providing exceptional experiences for their guests. QSRs were able to recover quickly from the impact of COVID-19 due to their ability to adapt to delivery, curbside pickup, and drive-thru services.
FSRs and independent restaurants faced more challenges and are still struggling to recover.
Independent restaurants play a crucial role in creating unique and vibrant dining experiences in cities.
Technology trends in the restaurant industry include the adoption of handheld devices, pay-at-the-table kiosks, and kitchen display systems in FSRs.
QSRs are exploring the use of robotics, although these technologies are still in the early stages of implementation.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and Background
09:26 The Passion and Love for the Hospitality Industry
22:27 The Evolution of the Restaurant Industry
25:24 The Impact of the COVID-19 Pandemic
26:51 The Impact of COVID-19 on the Restaurant Industry
31:00 The Shift in Consumer Behavior and the Definition of Value
37:17 Challenges Faced by Independent Restaurants
42:16 Technology Trends in Full-Service Restaurants
47:29 The Adoption of Technology in Quick-Service Restaurants

Apr 2, 2024 • 38min
S2E29 - Running A Digital Food Hub with Markus Pineyro of OOMI Digital Kitchen
About the Episode
OOMI Digital Kitchen is a digital food hall based in Dallas, Texas, that focuses on making great food and specializes in delivery and carryout. The founder, Marcus Pinero, shares his background in the restaurant industry and the inspiration behind creating a digital food hall. The concept of OOmi Digital Kitchen involves operating multiple brands out of one central kitchen, with a focus on cross-utilizing ingredients and providing a diverse menu. The customer journey includes both in-person grab-and-go and online ordering experiences. The use of technology, such as Ovation and Empowered Delivery, has been instrumental in improving communication with customers and ensuring the quality of food during delivery. The future plans for OOMI Digital Kitchen include expanding its brand presence and continuing to prioritize great food and customer satisfaction.
Takeaways:
Delivery is a crucial component for digital food halls to succeed.
Operating multiple brands out of one central kitchen allows for cross-utilization of ingredients and a diverse menu.
Effective communication with customers is key, and leveraging technology tools like Ovation can help gather feedback and address any issues.
Testing food quality during delivery is essential to ensure a great customer experience.
Future plans for Oomi Digital Kitchen include brand expansion and a focus on maintaining high-quality food and customer satisfaction.
Timestamps:
00:00: Introduction and Importance of Delivery
02:56: Background and Inspiration for OOMI Digital Kitchen
08:14: Brands and Concept of OOMI Digital Kitchen
12:58: Customer Journey: In-Person Grab and Go
14:26: Customer Journey: Online Ordering
16:22: Advantages of Going Digital
26:55: Lessons Learned and Importance of Communication
31:09: Delivery Challenges and Testing Food Quality
35:06: Future Plans for OOMI Digital Kitchen
36:34: Where to Find OOMI Digital Kitchen

Mar 26, 2024 • 48min
S2E28 - Transforming Restaurant Managers Into Hospitality Leaders with Jason E. Brooks
About the Episode
In this episode, Angelo Esposito interviews Jason Brooks, a hospitality professional with over 30 years of experience. They discuss various topics related to the restaurant industry, including getting into the business, lessons learned from top brands, actionable tips for restaurant operators, and the importance of coaching as a leadership trait. They also touch on the challenges of talent acquisition and market realities, creating self-sustaining systems in restaurants, and closing the gap between customer expectations and operator execution. Jason shares his inspiration for writing his book, 'Every Leader Needs Followers,' which aims to transform restaurant managers into hospitality leaders.
Takeaways
The first emotion every human being experiences is tied to food.
Training and orientation should focus on creating an owner-like orientation and giving a big picture view of the business.
Delegation should be done strategically, considering the admin level and priority of tasks.
Soft skills are crucial in the restaurant industry, and managers should focus on building a people-centric culture.
Aligning customer expectations and operator execution is essential for driving sales and customer satisfaction.
Timestamps:
00:00: Introduction and Background
01:26: Getting into the Restaurant Business
06:05: Lessons Learned from Top Restaurant Brands
07:26: Actionable Tips for Restaurant Operators
09:50: Improving Orientation and Training
10:44: Creating Many GMs through Delegation
12:39: The Importance of Coaching as a Leadership Trait
15:28: Balancing Talent Acquisition and Market Realities
19:42: Developing Self-Sustaining Systems in Restaurants
20:40: Regression in Managers' Soft Skills
30:09: Aligning Customer Expectations and Operator Execution
42:04: Inspiration for Writing the Book

Mar 19, 2024 • 33min
S2E27 - Operating Healthy Restaurants with Alessandro Biggi - Founder, Avo
About the Episode
In this episode, Angelo Esposito interviews Alessandro Biggi, the founder of Avo, a destination for seasonal nourishing and uniquely crafted salads and bowls. Alessandro shares the inspiration behind Avo and how the concept evolved to focus on healthy and filling meals. He discusses the challenges and learnings of starting a restaurant without prior experience in the industry. Alessandro emphasizes the importance of simplicity and convenience in the menu and customer experience. He also highlights the significance of building a strong internal culture and investing in training for employees. Alessandro provides insights into the criteria for opening new Avo locations and offers advice for aspiring food entrepreneurs.
Takeaways:
Customer craves simplicity and convenience in the menu and customer experience.
Building a strong internal culture and investing in training are crucial for success in the restaurant industry.
Balancing the original vision with customer feedback is essential for growth and adaptation.
Financial management and forecasting are key aspects of running a successful restaurant business.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Background of Avo
03:22 The Inspiration Behind Avo
05:14 Opening the First Avo Location
06:36 Challenges and Learnings in the Restaurant Industry
09:48 Balancing Vision and Customer Feedback
11:42 Avo Menu and Customer Favorites
13:05 The Difference in Food Culture between Italy and the US
15:27 The Vision for Avo's Future
20:12 Importance of Financial Management in the Restaurant Industry
23:27 Key Nuggets of Advice for Food Ventures
28:38 Criteria for Opening New Avo Locations
31:01 Advice for Starting a Food Venture
32:29 Connect with Avo

Mar 12, 2024 • 32min
S2E26 - PathSpot's mission to make 99.9% germ-free restaurants a reality
About the Episode
PathSpot is a comprehensive health and safety operation system for the food service industry. Their flagship product is a hand scanner that detects invisible contaminants on hands after washing. PathSpot aims to optimize safety, reduce waste, and improve employee satisfaction. They have gained traction by focusing on customer feedback and building a scalable supply chain. The labor optimizations and data-driven insights provided by PathSpot have resulted in significant ROI for their clients. The company plans to expand internationally and empower consumers and employees to make decisions based on data. Christine Schindler, Co-Founder and CEO of PathSpot, encourages entrepreneurs to embrace the challenges and impact they can make.
Takeaways
PathSpot is a comprehensive health and safety operation system for the food service industry.
Their flagship product is a hand scanner that detects invisible contaminants on hands after washing.
PathSpot focuses on customer feedback and building a scalable supply chain to gain traction.
The labor optimizations and data-driven insights provided by PathSpot result in significant ROI for clients.
PathSpot plans to expand internationally and empower consumers and employees to make decisions based on data.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction to PathSpot and their flagship product
02:48 Christine's journey from Biomedical Engineering to Co-Founding PathSpot
06:03 The problem PathSpot solves and their comprehensive health and safety operation system
09:46 The early days of PathSpot and how they gained traction
12:54 The ideal customer profile for PathSpot
15:11 The customer journey and how PathSpot works with clients
19:30 Wins and KPIs for restaurant clients
24:39 Future plans for PathSpot
27:21 Advice for entrepreneurs and those transitioning from the medical field
31:16 Plugs and contact information

Mar 5, 2024 • 48min
S2E25 - Grills, Grit, and Growth: Charlie Eblen's Recipe for Business Expansion
Episode Notes
Amid the pandemic, Charlie Eblen boldly initiated Single Tree Wood Fire BBQ, showcasing his entrepreneurial spirit. The name 'Singletree' was chosen to commemorate his grandfather, a multifaceted individual: a 27-year Army veteran, an attorney, a federal judge, and a leader in both the Four-H Club and the Masons. For Eblen, 'Singletree' not only honors his grandfather's legacy of service and leadership but also captures the essence of the farm that played a pivotal role in his personal growth. He also discusses the challenges of starting a restaurant from the ground up and underscores the importance of establishing a solid reputation through quality and hospitality. Charlie also highlights the significance of storytelling and leveraging social media to engage with customers and expand the brand. He shares insightful lessons learned and underscores the transformative role of technology in the hospitality sector.
Additionally, Charlie Eblen shares his journey of building a brand and impacting the community. Charlie and his team at Singletree Barbecue support the community through initiatives like can drive for homeless children and a nonprofit organization that prevents veteran suicide. They also prioritize youth sports and believe in the power of coaches and discipline in shaping a person's character. Charlie emphasizes the importance of telling your story and advises that everything you do is content. He encourages authenticity and shares practical tips for overcoming video editing challenges. Ultimately, Charlie's goal is to make his family proud and create a positive impact on the community.
Takeaways:
Focus on building a strong reputation by delivering high-quality products and exceptional hospitality.
Tell your story and use social media to connect with customers and grow your brand.
Embrace technology and leverage its power to improve operations and enhance the guest experience.
Be prepared to work hard and make sacrifices as an entrepreneur, but stay committed to your vision and goals. Building a brand should be driven by a desire to make a positive impact on the community.
Supporting the community can take various forms, such as organizing can drives for homeless children and preventing veteran suicide.
Youth sports and the right coaches can play a significant role in shaping a person's character.
Telling your story is essential, and everything you do can be turned into content.
Authenticity is key in content creation, and it's okay if your videos are not perfect.
Prioritize personal success by focusing on what truly matters, such as family and making a positive impact on the community.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and Background
04:10 - Job loss led to entrepreneurial realization in crisis.
09:49 - Juggling multiple business tasks, learning new challenges.
10:42 - Learning the challenges of opening a business.
14:54 - Navigating sales targets with a focus on quality.
18:41 - Driven by passion for hospitality and barbecue.
22:11 - Keeping up with family on social media.
23:10 - Embracing social media improved hospitality industry outreach.
29:18 - First weekend away, son's baseball tournament stress.
31:35 - Admiration for impact on veteran and local community.
36:33 - Supporting veterans, aiding their transition, fundraising events.
37:41 - Choosing impactful coaches for kids' sports is important.
42:43 - Switching mentality, finding joy in family time.
46:34 - Expresses appreciation for toast and marketing collaboration.
47:46 - Closing Remarks

Feb 27, 2024 • 36min
S2E24 - Notch’s Innovative Approach to Accounts Payable for Restaurants
About the Episode
In this conversation, Angelo interviews Jordan Huck, CEO of Notch, a technology platform that specializes in automating accounts payable and accounts receivable for the food service industry. They explore the inspiration behind Notch, detail the customer onboarding process, and highlight the advantages for restaurants managing multiple suppliers. Jordan shares both success stories and lessons from his entrepreneurial journey. Additionally, they discuss Notch's partnership with WISK and direct listeners to where they can find more information about Notch.
Furthermore, Jordan Huck, CEO of Notch Financial, talks about the company's strategy for engaging with the industry and its commitment to providing valuable content. He stresses their obsession with customer service and their goal to exceed customer expectations. Jordan also addresses how they tackle challenges and the value they strive to deliver to restaurants. The conversation wraps up with a discussion on hosting a webinar and exploring potential partnership opportunities.
Takeaways:
Notch is a technology platform that offers accounts payable and accounts receivable automation for the food service industry. - Notch is ideal for restaurants with multiple suppliers and fragmented supply chains. - The onboarding process for Notch is quick and easy, with customers able to start using the product within a day. - Notch has seen success in helping restaurants streamline their invoicing processes and reduce manual work. - The partnership between Notch and WISK aims to provide customers with a comprehensive solution for managing inventory and accounts payable. Notch Financial focuses on creating helpful content for the industry. - The company is obsessed with providing exceptional customer service. - They pride themselves on their ability to respond to challenges effectively. - Notch Financial aims to provide value to restaurants through webinars and partnerships.
Timestamps:
Timestamps:
00:00: Introduction and Overview of Notch
03:29: Inspiration and Origin of Notch
06:55: Early Days and Testing at Notch
08:51: Ideal Customers for Notch
10:26: Benefits of Notch for Restaurants with Multiple Suppliers
13:01: Onboarding Process for Notch
16:47: Success Stories with Notch
18:55: Cultivating Culture at Notch
21:23: Lessons Learned as an Entrepreneur
29:28: The Partnership Between Notch and WISK
32:51: Conclusion and How to Connect with Notch

Feb 20, 2024 • 33min
S2E23 - Seth Cohen on Adapting and Growing Sweetfin
About the Episode
Seth Cohen, President and Co-founder of Sweetfin, shares the story of how the Premium Poke concept was created and grew to 20 locations. He discusses the challenges of opening the first location, the importance of having a strong team and company mission, and the incorporation of customer feedback. Cohen also shares his future plans for expanding Sweetfin and offers advice for aspiring entrepreneurs.
Takeaways:
Building a strong team with the right personalities and skills is crucial for success.
Consistency, strong standard operating procedures, and attention to detail are important for maintaining a strong brand.
Incorporating customer feedback and continuously improving is essential for growth.
Having a clear company mission and values helps guide decision-making and maintain focus.
Raising more funds than initially planned and being prepared for unexpected challenges is important when starting a business.
Being innovative and taking risks can help a business stand out in a competitive market.
Timestamps:
00:00: Introduction and Overview
01:17: The Story of Sweetfin
04:33: Opening the First Location
09:22: Challenges and Lessons Learned
15:30: Expanding to Multiple Locations
19:43: Developing the Menu
23:16: Building a Strong Team
27:30: Incorporating Customer Feedback
29:11: Future Plans and Expansion
29:55: Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs
31:54: Conclusion

Feb 14, 2024 • 49min
S2E22 - Building Connections Through Feedback with Zack Oates
Zack Oates, CEO of Ovation, emphasizes human connection in hospitality. He shares Ovation's feedback platform, importance of recovering upset guests, lessons from his startup journey, and celebrating success. Customer feedback is crucial for business improvement. Oates highlights the role of technology in feedback processes.

Feb 6, 2024 • 52min
S2E21 - Transforming Marketing Campaigns with Evocalize's Data-Driven Tools
Episode Notes
In this conversation, we had the opportunity to interview Justin Ulrich, VP of Marketing at Evocalize, a tool that helps automate paid digital local marketing based on local data. Justin shares his marketing journey and how he transitioned to Evocalize. He also discusses successful marketing campaigns and the challenges faced by restaurants in marketing. Justin explains how Evocalize helps restaurants improve their digital marketing effectiveness and reduce time spent on managing ads. He also shares the process of getting set up with Evocalize and the ROI that clients can expect. The conversation concludes with a discussion on marketing strategies and the importance of quantity and consistency in marketing. The conversation covers the topics of creating and repurposing content, as well as future plans for Evocalize.
Takeaways:
Creating long-form video content is challenging but can be repurposed into various forms of content.
Different people consume content in different ways, so it's important to create content in various formats.
Evocalize plans to expand its marketing capabilities to serve smaller businesses and enter new industries.
Changes in lead generation regulations will require businesses to generate their own leads, creating opportunities for Evocalize.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:41 What is Evocalize?
04:09 Justin's Marketing Journey
06:33 Transition to Evocalize
09:05 Successful Marketing Campaign
12:23 How Evocalize Helps Restaurants
16:49 Challenges Faced by Restaurants in Marketing
18:39 Improving Digital Marketing Effectiveness
22:56 Process of Getting Set Up with Evocalize
26:19 ROI for Evocalize Clients
28:26 Marketing Strategies for Evocalize
34:16 Importance of Quantity and Consistency in Marketing
37:07 Promoting Content and Learning from Feedback
40:15 Creating and Repurposing Content
45:43 Future Plans for Evocalize