

The Road to Autonomy
Grayson Brulte
How would you feel if the transport truck beside you on the highway had no driver? Or the car passing beside you had no driver? Would it make a difference if the widespread deployment of autonomous trucks could ease supply chain problems almost overnight and that autonomous vehicles do not get distracted or speed? And would you feel better if you knew autonomous trucks and vehicles could reduce carbon emissions by 30 percent or more. Learn more from world's leading mobility experts on The Road to Autonomy®, an ahead-of-the-curve podcast hosted by Grayson Brulte.
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Dec 20, 2025 • 41min
Episode 356 | Autonomy Markets: Tesla’s Austin Moment, LiDAR Chapter 11 & HYPR Emerges
This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk, Grayson hit the road and met with Tim Kentley-Klay of HYPRLABS in San Francisco, Tesla started removing the safety attendees in Austin and Waymo is reportedly raising another round at a $110 billion valuation.Grayson shares details from his exclusive first ride in the HYPRDRIVE vehicle in San Francisco and insights from his The Road to Autonomy podcast interview with Tim Kentley Klay. They discuss HYPR’s emergence from stealth and the company’s unique vision-only, self-reinforcement learning approach to autonomy.As the vision-only modality gains market validation, the conversation shifts to Waymo. Despite generating significant momentum with a sensor suite heavily reliant on LiDAR and radar, the company is reportedly seeking to raise $15 billion in external capital at a $110 billion valuation. Grayson and Walt debate the strategic logic behind the raise and offer predictions on when Waymo will surpass one million paid rides per week.Closing out the show, they analyze the implications of a recent Bloomberg report suggesting that Sterling Anderson is being groomed to become the next CEO of GM.Episode Chapters0:00 Brighter with Herbert1:32 HYPRDRIVE Ride and Meeting with Tim Kentley Klay6:50 Waymo From SFO to the City with No Highway12:28 Tesla Starts Removing Safety Attendants in Austin18:03 Luminar Files for Chapter 1122:26 California’s Pending Tesla Ban25:30 Sterling Anderson’s Growing Role at GM31:24 Waymo’s Capital Raise 37:43 Kodiak’s Partnership with Verizon39:58 Next WeekRecorded on Friday, December 19, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 16, 2025 • 37min
Episode 355 | Self-Driving on 33 Watts: How HYPR Labs Trained a Model for Just $850
Tim Kentley Klay, CEO & co-founder of HYPRLABS, joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss how the company is achieving autonomous driving in downtown San Francisco using just 33 watts of compute and zero simulation or HD maps. By prioritizing "learning velocity," HYPR utilizes an end-to-end neural network that learns continuously from real-world driving data, avoiding the structural noise injected by classical simulation and hand-coded heuristics.While the industry often relies on massive engineering teams and brute-force compute, HYPRLABS is executing a high-efficiency strategy with a team of just four engineers and a foundational model trained for only $850. Drawing inspiration from DeepMind’s AlphaZero, the company allows the AI to model the environment without predefined rules, using their autonomous vehicle fleet as a validation platform for a new category of robots launching next year.Episode Chapters0:00 Introduction to HYPRDRIVE1:30 HYPRDRIVE5:40 Learning Velocity 8:10 Building HYPR12:23 Training the System 18:55 The Origins of the HYPR Approach 21:36 Building Trust23:35 Simulation 27:07 $850 to Train the Model30:44 HYPR Robots33:22 Cameras35:16 What's Next Recorded on Sunday, December 14, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 13, 2025 • 53min
Episode 354 | Autonomy Markets: Rivian’s Vertical Integration Bet, Wayve’s Nissan Win & Uber’s Autonomy Narrative
Rivian is making waves with its decision to build its own chips and lidar, moving away from NVIDIA. The introduction of a subscription service raises questions about distractions versus strategic moves. Wayve celebrates a significant partnership with Nissan for a rollout in North America and Japan starting 2027. Meanwhile, Uber grapples with its autonomy narrative as it gets overshadowed by competitors. The episode wraps up with insights into global autonomy trends and how various companies are adapting to the evolving landscape.

Dec 9, 2025 • 46min
Episode 353 | How Robotaxis Solve the "RideShare Lottery" Problem
Ed Olson, Founder and CEO of May Mobility, dives into the transformative power of robotaxis in the rideshare realm. He explains how these autonomous vehicles can eliminate the frustrating 'rideshare lottery' by offering consistent, premium services. Olson discusses May's innovative partnerships with giants like Toyota and Uber, prioritizing hybrids for efficiency. He also highlights the importance of adaptable world models for various driving cultures and the social benefits of autonomy, especially for enhancing mobility for the elderly.

Dec 6, 2025 • 35min
Episode 352 | Autonomy Markets: Waymo Upstages Uber’s Party: Avride’s Debut & The Reality of Scaling
A thrilling showdown occurs in Dallas as Waymo outshines Uber with a surprise driverless announcement. The hosts dissect Uber's marketing missteps, highlighting an attendant spotted in promotional footage, raising questions about public perception. They also analyze the implications of Avride's limited launch area and debate what constitutes true commercial scaling. As Waymo expands into new cities, the race intensifies, stirring discussions on safety messaging and the autonomous trucking market heating up.

Dec 2, 2025 • 53min
Episode 351 | The Million Robot Bet: Why Enterprise Wins Before Homes
Hugh Nguyen, Partner, Automotive Technology & Mobility, KPMG and Lerrel Pinto, Co-Founder, Assured Robot Intelligence (ARI) joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss why the immediate future of humanoid robotics lies in enterprise applications, rather than consumer homes.Powering the humanoids is the software "brain" and system integration, which are becoming the primary differentiators over commoditized hardware. As humanoids scale, the timeline for adoption is accelerating; Lerrel predicts the deployment of one million robots by 2030, driven by acute labor shortages and the economic practicality of enterprise use cases compared to the regulatory hurdles of the consumer market.Episode Chapters0:00 Humanoid Robot Market6:44 Humanoid Due Diligence9:40 Humanoid Value Chain12:08 Humanoids Size and Hands16:52 Building Humanoids18:52 Humanoid Personalities20:24 Managing Humanoid Risk22:24 Humanoid Fleets25:36 Humanoid Use Cases29:58 China33:20 Humanoid Policy38:42 Chips45:44 Deploying Humanoids in the Workplace49:28 Future of HumanoidsRecorded on Thursday, November 6, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Nov 29, 2025 • 32min
Episode 350 | Autonomy Markets: China vs US: Who Can Scale Faster, WeRide or Waymo?
Walter Piecyk, an industry analyst known for his insights on transportation and autonomous vehicles, joins the conversation to discuss the launch of fully autonomous robotaxis by Uber and WeRide in Abu Dhabi. They explore WeRide’s ambitious fleet expansion and compare it to Pony.ai's growth strategy. The dialogue shifts to Waymo’s recent DMV approval in California, highlighting infrastructure challenges. Walter shares his firsthand experience with Tesla's FSD 14.2 in NYC, raising intriguing questions about driving behavior in an autonomous future.

Nov 25, 2025 • 53min
Episode 349 | Autonomous Private Pods, Public Prices: The $20M/Mile Solution to a $2B/Mile Problem
Mark Seeger, Founder and Co-CEO of Glydways, explores innovative solutions for urban congestion with on-demand autonomous pods. He discusses how traditional taxi models can exacerbate traffic issues. Instead of expensive rail systems, Glydways offers a lightweight infrastructure costing only $20M per mile. Mark highlights the potential for scaling in global markets and the need for governments to embrace this disaggregated transit model. He emphasizes affordability, safety, and the importance of transparent collaborations for future deployments.

Nov 22, 2025 • 36min
Episode 348 | Autonomy Markets: Waymo's Six Stages of Autonomy
This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Waymo’s accelerated nationwide expansion with new markets, Minneapolis, Tampa, New Orleans, Miami, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and Orlando getting ready to come online, while breaking down and coin Waymo’s Six Stages of Autonomy.As Waymo expands, competition is brewing in Dallas where Avride in partnership with Uber and Lyft in partnership with Mobileye will begin to operate commercial robotaxi services later this year and into next year, as Dallas begins to emerge as a major robotaxi market.Beyond Waymo, the episode explores broader industry signals, from sidewalk delivery robots that are scaling, to Zoox’s extremely limited San Francisco deployment despite Amazon resources, and the accelerating Chinese robotaxi expansion into Europe.Episode Chapters0:00 Waymo’s On-Going Expansion 2:21 Waymo’s Disney World Opportunity 8:04 Waymo’s Six Stages of Autonomy 14:45 Waymo’s Upcoming Dallas Launch 18:08 Dallas Robotaxi Competition 20:36 Waymo’s Current Political Issues 25:09 Scaling Delivery Robots 28:41 Zoox Has Scale Ambitions 32:34 Foreign Autonomy Desk 33:21 Next WeekRecorded on Thursday, November 21, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Nov 18, 2025 • 51min
Episode 347 | The Next Autonomous Vehicle M&A Wave Starts Below the Line
Hugh Nguyen, Partner, Automotive Technology & Mobility, KPMG joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss the emerging wave of autonomous vehicle partnerships, the hidden value in fleet operations, and the coming M&A consolidation that will reshape the industry.As the autonomous vehicle ecosystem accelerates through a phase of rapid partnership formation, the real value lies “below the line” with fleet operations, depot management, safety protocols, and operational expertise that rarely makes headlines. While the market fixates on vehicle counts and technology partnerships, the proprietary knowledge of how to actually deploy and scale robotaxi operations at profitable unit economics represents the true competitive moat. Hugh predicts the next 18-24 months will see continued partnership proliferation across global markets, followed by strategic consolidation driven not by headline M&A deals, but by precision talent acquisition and operational capability roll-ups. The winners will be those who control fleet operations, understand regulatory navigation, and can scale profitably. Capabilities that are increasingly attracting investor interest as the industry matures beyond the cult of the founder and towards operational excellence.Episode Chapters0:00 KPMG's Thoughts on Autonomous Vehicles 6:04 Autonomous Vehicle Partnerships 15:31 Emerging M&A Activity 23:48 What Happens When a Partnership Doesn't Work?25:47 Autonomous Vehicle Fleet Management 31:45 Autonomous Vehicle Asset Rollup 40:10 The "Passport" Model 47:17 Cult of The Founder48:54 M&A OutlookRecorded on Thursday, November 6, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


