The Road to Autonomy

Grayson Brulte
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Jan 5, 2026 • 42min

Episode 359 | Autonomy Markets: Waymo's PR Problem and Tesla's Missed Deadlines

This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss the fallout from Waymo’s crisis management failure in San Francisco, where a power outage left hundreds of vehicles stranded and blocking intersections throughout the city. Waymo’s prolonged silence on the incident and lack of transparency regarding what truly happened could lead to a decline in public trust just as robotaxis begin to scale. Down in Austin, Tesla missed their 2025 driver-out deadline in Austin, prompting Grayson to push his prediction for driver-out/safety attendant out commercial service to late February or early March 2026.Then there is Uber, a company with an ever-changing narrative around autonomy—shifting from demand-generation to hybrid networks, and now claiming mass adoption is still decades away. What will the next narrative be, and will it change once again post-CES?Closing out the show, Grayson and Walt discuss how escalating geopolitical tensions in Venezuela and potential political shifts in the UK could force a hard reset for companies relying on Chinese autonomous technology to scale their robotaxi businesses.Episode Chapters0:00 Lights Out in San Francisco2:44 Why Did Waymo’s Freeze When the Power Went Out?8:34 Remote Drivers15:00 Robotaxi in Austin18:33 Scaling Robotaxi 22:48 Autonomous Vehicle Policy24:47 Austin Incident Reports 27:17 Uber’s Ever-Changing Narrative 30:31 Miami-Dade Sheriff Deploys Autonomous Patrol Vehicles 32:38 Foreign Autonomy Desk40:26 CESRecorded on Sunday, January 4, 2026 --------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Dec 30, 2025 • 45min

Episode 358 | How the Permian Basin is Accelerating Kodiak's Commercialization Plans

Pete Bigelow, Public Relations Manager, Kodiak joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss his firsthand experience in the Permian Basin and how the region acts as a "literal and figurative sandbox" for autonomous trucking.During the episode Grayson and Pete discuss Kodiak's operational partnership with Atlas Energy Solutions, the hardening of technology against extreme weather and road conditions, and how these industrial learnings are accelerating Kodiak’s timeline for driverless highway operations in the second half of 2026.Episode Chapters0:00 Permian Pete3:50 Permian Basin8:02 Automation in the Permian Basin11:10 Learnings from the Permian Basin16:01 Permian Basin Operations18:49 SensorPods23:50 Kodiak's Diversified Business Model27:34 Autonomous Trucking Regulations30:15 Permian Basin Road and Traffic Conditions35:49 Permian Pete's Ride Experience41:31 Autonomy Markets OutlookRecorded on Friday, December 19, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Dec 23, 2025 • 41min

Episode 357 | Automating Logistics Yards with Computer Vision

Darin Brannan, CEO & co-founder of Terminal Industries joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss transforming the logistics yard into a fully automated environment using computer vision and agentic AI. Unlike legacy approaches that rely on RFID tags or manual "clipboard and radio" processes, Terminal Industries utilizes a proprietary computer vision platform trained on real world data, including weather occlusions, dirt, and glare to achieve high-accuracy tracking without requiring perfect conditions. By digitizing the yard through an agentic workflow approach, the company is moving beyond simple point solutions to building a unified operating system that connects the warehouse to transportation, effectively enabling the transition from manual oversight to autonomous execution.Episode Chapters0:00 Playing Chess2:35 Yard Operating Systems7:15 Yard Bottlenecks 9:33 Traditional Yard and Warehouse Operations15:15 Computer Vision 19:05 Building LLM Models24:37 Data Control Centers27:43 Automating Yards36:34 Changing Consumer Habits39:03 Autonomous Trucks and Yards40:07 Future of Terminal IndustriesRecorded on Monday, December 15, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Dec 20, 2025 • 41min

Episode 356 | Autonomy Markets: Tesla’s Austin Moment, LiDAR Chapter 11 & HYPR Emerges

This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk, Grayson hit the road and met with Tim Kentley-Klay of HYPRLABS in San Francisco, Tesla started removing the safety attendees in Austin and Waymo is reportedly raising another round at a $110 billion valuation.Grayson shares details from his exclusive first ride in the HYPRDRIVE vehicle in San Francisco and insights from his The Road to Autonomy podcast interview with Tim Kentley Klay. They discuss HYPR’s emergence from stealth and the company’s unique vision-only, self-reinforcement learning approach to autonomy.As the vision-only modality gains market validation, the conversation shifts to Waymo. Despite generating significant momentum with a sensor suite heavily reliant on LiDAR and radar, the company is reportedly seeking to raise $15 billion in external capital at a $110 billion valuation. Grayson and Walt debate the strategic logic behind the raise and offer predictions on when Waymo will surpass one million paid rides per week.Closing out the show, they analyze the implications of a recent Bloomberg report suggesting that Sterling Anderson is being groomed to become the next CEO of GM.Episode Chapters0:00 Brighter with Herbert1:32 HYPRDRIVE Ride and Meeting with Tim Kentley Klay6:50 Waymo From SFO to the City with No Highway12:28 Tesla Starts Removing Safety Attendants in Austin18:03 Luminar Files for Chapter 1122:26 California’s Pending Tesla Ban25:30 Sterling Anderson’s Growing Role at GM31:24 Waymo’s Capital Raise 37:43 Kodiak’s Partnership with Verizon39:58 Next WeekRecorded on Friday, December 19, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Dec 16, 2025 • 37min

Episode 355 | Self-Driving on 33 Watts: How HYPR Labs Trained a Model for Just $850

Tim Kentley Klay, CEO & co-founder of HYPRLABS, joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss how the company is achieving autonomous driving in downtown San Francisco using just 33 watts of compute and zero simulation or HD maps. By prioritizing "learning velocity," HYPR utilizes an end-to-end neural network that learns continuously from real-world driving data, avoiding the structural noise injected by classical simulation and hand-coded heuristics.While the industry often relies on massive engineering teams and brute-force compute, HYPRLABS is executing a high-efficiency strategy with a team of just four engineers and a foundational model trained for only $850. Drawing inspiration from DeepMind’s AlphaZero, the company allows the AI to model the environment without predefined rules, using their autonomous vehicle fleet as a validation platform for a new category of robots launching next year.Episode Chapters0:00 Introduction to HYPRDRIVE1:30 HYPRDRIVE5:40 Learning Velocity 8:10 Building HYPR12:23 Training the System 18:55 The Origins of the HYPR Approach 21:36 Building Trust23:35 Simulation 27:07 $850 to Train the Model30:44 HYPR Robots33:22 Cameras35:16 What's Next Recorded on Sunday, December 14, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Dec 13, 2025 • 53min

Episode 354 | Autonomy Markets: Rivian’s Vertical Integration Bet, Wayve’s Nissan Win & Uber’s Autonomy Narrative

Rivian is making waves with its decision to build its own chips and lidar, moving away from NVIDIA. The introduction of a subscription service raises questions about distractions versus strategic moves. Wayve celebrates a significant partnership with Nissan for a rollout in North America and Japan starting 2027. Meanwhile, Uber grapples with its autonomy narrative as it gets overshadowed by competitors. The episode wraps up with insights into global autonomy trends and how various companies are adapting to the evolving landscape.
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Dec 9, 2025 • 46min

Episode 353 | How Robotaxis Solve the "RideShare Lottery" Problem

Ed Olson, Founder and CEO of May Mobility, dives into the transformative power of robotaxis in the rideshare realm. He explains how these autonomous vehicles can eliminate the frustrating 'rideshare lottery' by offering consistent, premium services. Olson discusses May's innovative partnerships with giants like Toyota and Uber, prioritizing hybrids for efficiency. He also highlights the importance of adaptable world models for various driving cultures and the social benefits of autonomy, especially for enhancing mobility for the elderly.
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Dec 6, 2025 • 35min

Episode 352 | Autonomy Markets: Waymo Upstages Uber’s Party: Avride’s Debut & The Reality of Scaling

A thrilling showdown occurs in Dallas as Waymo outshines Uber with a surprise driverless announcement. The hosts dissect Uber's marketing missteps, highlighting an attendant spotted in promotional footage, raising questions about public perception. They also analyze the implications of Avride's limited launch area and debate what constitutes true commercial scaling. As Waymo expands into new cities, the race intensifies, stirring discussions on safety messaging and the autonomous trucking market heating up.
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Dec 2, 2025 • 53min

Episode 351 | The Million Robot Bet: Why Enterprise Wins Before Homes

Hugh Nguyen, Partner, Automotive Technology & Mobility, KPMG and Lerrel Pinto, Co-Founder, Assured Robot Intelligence (ARI) joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss why the immediate future of humanoid robotics lies in enterprise applications, rather than consumer homes.Powering the humanoids is the software "brain" and system integration, which are becoming the primary differentiators over commoditized hardware. As humanoids scale, the timeline for adoption is accelerating; Lerrel predicts the deployment of one million robots by 2030, driven by acute labor shortages and the economic practicality of enterprise use cases compared to the regulatory hurdles of the consumer market.Episode Chapters0:00 Humanoid Robot Market6:44 Humanoid Due Diligence9:40 Humanoid Value Chain12:08 Humanoids Size and Hands16:52 Building Humanoids18:52 Humanoid Personalities20:24 Managing Humanoid Risk22:24 Humanoid Fleets25:36 Humanoid Use Cases29:58 China33:20 Humanoid Policy38:42 Chips45:44 Deploying Humanoids in the Workplace49:28 Future of HumanoidsRecorded on Thursday, November 6, 2025--------About The Road to AutonomyThe Road to Autonomy provides market intelligence and strategic advisory services to institutional investors and companies, delivering insights needed to stay ahead of emerging trends in the autonomy economy™. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.com.Sign up for This Week in The Autonomy Economy newsletter: https://www.roadtoautonomy.com/ae/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Nov 29, 2025 • 32min

Episode 350 | Autonomy Markets: China vs US: Who Can Scale Faster, WeRide or Waymo?

Walter Piecyk, an industry analyst known for his insights on transportation and autonomous vehicles, joins the conversation to discuss the launch of fully autonomous robotaxis by Uber and WeRide in Abu Dhabi. They explore WeRide’s ambitious fleet expansion and compare it to Pony.ai's growth strategy. The dialogue shifts to Waymo’s recent DMV approval in California, highlighting infrastructure challenges. Walter shares his firsthand experience with Tesla's FSD 14.2 in NYC, raising intriguing questions about driving behavior in an autonomous future.

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