Let It In with Guy Lawrence

#87 My awesome guest this week is Sanjay Rawal, a film director and the man behind his latest documentary 3100 Run and Become It's safe to say I am not much of a runner, and rest assured you don't need to be to enjoy this podcast. This episode goes waaaaay beyond running and what was shared was quite mind-blowing. In a nutshell, Sanjay's latest film is 3100: Run and Become gives us a behind-the-scenes look into the most elusive and elite multi-day race in the world, the Self Transcendence 3100 Mile Race. 3100 Race Facts: Held annually. 1 x sidewalk block (0.56 miles) Queens, NYC Requires 59 miles a day 52 straight days over Summer. Promises personal expansion and discovery a deeper sense of self. The act of running to transform oneself is as old as time. Ancient man and woman ran not just for survival, but to connect with Nature and the Divine. The film also explores the historic and current relationship between running and spirituality through intimate visits with the Marathon Monks of Japan's Mt. Hiei; the persistence hunters of Africa's Kalahari tribe; and Arizona's Navajo Nation. Enjoy! About Sanjay & the movie: Sanjay Rawal worked in the human rights and international development sectors for 15 years and in over 40 countries before focusing his love for photography and storytelling onto filmmaking. His first feature, Food Chains (2014), premiered at the 2014 Berlinale and then screened at Tribeca before securing domestic distribution from Screen Media. The film was produced by Eva Longoria and Eric Schlosser and narrated by Forest Whitaker. It went on to screen in 1,100 more through its theatrical, semi-theatrical & community screening tour. A lifelong runner, Sanjay was happy to lose the pounds he gained eating Mexican food in farmworker towns and take on a project about running. His new film, 3100: Run and Become, opened in theaters in fall 2018. www.guylawrence.com.au

#86 This week I catch up with my good mate Matt Omo of Omo Sound Journeys, as we tackle what it takes to live an inspired life. This is part #5 of the Let Go & Live In Flow podcast series. Some of the talking points we covered are: - What is inspiration? - Most common problem; feeling stuck, directionless or confined - How do we move into an inspiring place? - State of being, not doing. If you want to explore this work more, then check out our 3-day retreat. If that isn't an option, on the online Academy is a great place to start. Enjoy! - Part #4 - Developing and Trusting Our Intuition- Part #3 - Embracing The Flow & The Future - Part #2 - How To Move Past What's Holding You Back - Part #1 - 3 Steps To Gain Clarity On What's Holding You Back Learn more about Guy: www.guylawrence.com.au Let It In Academy: www.letitin.com.au

#85 My awesome guest this week is Niraj Naik, an ex-pharmacist turned holistic health and breathwork expert. Breathwork has become a big part of my practice, and I was excited to get Niraj on the show to discuss his SOMA breathwork techniques. Also known as the Renegade Pharmacist, he has been on quite a journey and had to overcome some serious health conditions. Today we dive into his journey, how he overcame his challenges and how the breath helped him along the way. Enjoy! About Niraj: Niraj Naik is a qualified pharmacist who comes from a background of working long hours for several years as a community pharmacist. Becoming a certified "legal drug dealer" at the ripe age of 24, he got to witness first-hand, many clients going home with shopping bags full of drugs each month, rarely getting better and usually going on to suffer from other diseases. He also learnt of the debilitating side effects of the prescription medication which drove many of the patients to have to take more and more drugs to ease the side effects. Curious to find ways to improve his own health he attended several health seminars and discovered an in-depth approach on how to reach optimum health and vitality by understanding the true origin of disease and how to prevent it. After experiencing great benefits with his own health, Niraj was motivated to devise a scheme to see if he could also help his suffering patients. He incorporate a lifestyle plan called his "healthy shopping lists' that includes simple food swaps, tools and websites to support their specific condition. Learn more about Niraj Naik: therenegadepharmacist.com Learn more about Guy: www.guylawrence.com.au Let It In Academy: www.letitin.com.au

#84 I recently had the pleasure of being interviewed on Alexx Stuart's Low Tox Life podcast. She asked some awesome questions and it was truly a great conversation. The questions she asked me: Why did you leave 180 Nutrition and was it a hard decision? What is Let It In and why call it that? Who is this work for? Why should we even care? Why do so many people struggle with meditation or even why we benefit from it? How deep does this rabbit hole get? You do live meditations over Zoom with your academy community. Many report a magnification of intense energy that they don't experience by themselves. How does this even happen? What kind of results have you seen with people who work with you? Where does one start with this work? You have a podcast called 'The Guy Lawrence Podcast' that fully goes down the rabbit hole. Who's blown your mind the most? What goes on in your retreats, Let Go and Live In Flow? Who have your biggest mentors been for doing this work on your own personal journey towards understanding the deep benefits of meditation? Is it always rosy, when we decide to do this work? Ie, does it just get better and better or can it sometimes bring up some painful realisations and herx reactions in your experience? What is the role of music in meditation – do we need it / can we do without/does it amplify things? About Guy: Guy Lawrence is a coach, speaker, wellness advocate and entrepreneur. He is the founder of Let It In. A program designed to help people bridge the gap between the life they live and the life they truly want to live.using meditation and the language of neuroscience. This is facilitated via live workshops, retreats and the online Let it In Academy membership-based community program. He also supports people via his podcast called 'The Guy Lawrence Podcast'. These include conversations with pioneering experts that go well beyond conventional health, wealth and wisdom to inspire change in our lives. All episodes are freely available via Youtube, iTunes, Spotify & Stitcher. Learn more about Guy: www.guylawrence.com.au Let It In Academy: www.letitin.com.au TRANSCRIPT Please note, this is an automated transcript so it is not 100% accurate. Guy: Welcome to the Guy Lawrence podcast. I'm your host Guy Lawrence. After building a successful health company and the number one podcast, I decided to do something deemed a little crazy. I let it go, set a new destination called the unknown and use my heart as it come from each week. I sit down with great minds as we explore topics beyond conventional health, wealth, and wisdom to inspire and ignite the passion within us all to create the life we truly want. So my question to you is, are you ready to let it in? Guy: You all? How's it going guys? Guy here of course. Your host and a you're listening to my podcast. Awesome. I'm glad you made it today. Coz I've got a little bit different, same, same but different because the roles are reversed. I'm sharing an episode with you, uh, where I was interviewed recently and I was on the Alex Stewart podcast, Low Tox Life. It's a fantastic podcast by the way. I highly recommend you check it out. And, um, she does a awesome, basically an awesome job of interviewing people. And she certainly got the, uh, the good stuff out of me and, uh, I had a lot of good feedback from it and, uh, people reaching out, uh, thanking me for sharing and it was great. So I thought I'd actually turn it into a podcast, um, where you can hear a little bit more about me, the work I do and where I'm at and where or whether it's all. Guy: And I think we really covered some important topics today, so hopefully you're going to enjoy, uh, this conversation that I had, be sure to let me know on Instagram, Guy H Lawrence. If you use Instagram, you know, screenshot it, uh, tell a buddy anything to help me spread this word. If you find yourself tuning in each week and enjoying the show, then I, you know, all the support is so welcome. I'm in a noisy world of information. Um, it's uh, you know, it really helps to help cut through a, to get this message out there coz it is changing lives and it's beautiful and I'm loving it. Absolutely loving it. Now, as I record this, I'm not sure when this is end. Uh, so I'm not sure what's been going on, but the retreats might've happened. They might not have no August, but we do have another one booked in for January. Guy: If you have missed out on August retreats cause there was only a couple of spots left posted, sold out and there is a lot of interest and a waiting list for the January one, which is awesome, which is awesome. But that means, you know, as my work, uh, and this message gets out there more, uh, you know, I'm going to be reaching more people so the spots go quicker. Um, which is brilliant and we are making 20, 20, um, be focusing more on the retreats that will be coming up as well. And we're even looking at doing, um, an advanced retreat on top three day retreat, if you think that's possible. But it is and I come and experience it. They're amazing. Honestly, I promise you, you will definitely walk on a different person when you walked in and you will make friends for life and uh, you'll learn how to embody this work fully, which is brilliant, which is my dream coming into, um, reality, which is what it's all about. Right? Anyway, that's a just some sign up to my newsletter. If you haven't back at guylawrence.com.au. That's where I keep everyone updated. Um, yeah, hopefully I'll meet you in person Monday. Thanks for listening. Enjoy this conversation with Alex. Guy: Be sure to let me know. Awesome guys. Alexx: Hello and welcome to the Low Tox Life podcast. I'm Alex Stewart, your host and today is show 144. And my guest is Guy Lawrence. So, uh, some of you might remember and if you haven't listened to this show before, please do go back and listen to it. The first time that Guy Lawrence was on the show. And, uh, we talked about his exploration of various ways that one can push one's mind, uh, and how the effects then impact life. Uh, and we spoke about that very much from his personal experience. Guy is a coach, speaker, entrepreneur. A lot of you might know him as having founded the one 180 nutrition brand. Uh, but he also then went on to found a very deeply personal business project called, Let It In after having experienced so many shifts, uh, with, uh, some experimental therapies, let's call it, uh, over the years. And some of those include Wim Hof method. Alexx: Some of them include Iowasca, some include the work of Dr. Joe Spencer. And as he went on, he started to build his own personal brand of how to help people shift from a life, uh, where they felt a sense of lack in, in terms of their own potential. And, uh, and to let in the magic of the mind shifts that, uh, that we need to really live, uh, the life we want and create, um, transformation. And it's not kind of, we were Tony Robbins live the life you want and transform yourself. It's really beautiful, deep connecting to the self work. And uh, you might have taken the opportunity already in the last couple of weeks to download your free seven minute heart coherence meditation, uh, and a five step morning routine that guy has now. He is not one of those people that professors that you need to do this routine exactly this way every morning. Alexx: Otherwise it's not going to work. You know, some of us have a bazillion kids a job, uh, you know, lots of, lots of busy days in the week and it really is just about starting to um, focus on prioritizing ourselves and realizing that every aspect of our life goes much, much better when we gift ourselves a bit of time in the mornings to center ourselves. And sometimes for people they might find that ends up being at the very end of the day when it's quiet and there are children asleep and it's easier to make space then. So this can look how ever you want it to look for yourself. But that hot space, uh, the heart coherence meditation is a real treat. And, uh, I think there's a Chinese proverb that says, if you don't have 30 minutes, you must take an hour. Uh, and I think, uh, if we can't take seven minutes, then really we really need to take a good long, hard look at ourselves and, uh, and try and figure out why we aren't carving out time for ourselves to get centered. Alexx: And, uh, and uh, I guess, you know, really connect to to ourselves. You're so often, you know, the minute our eyes open, it's Facebook, it's Instagram, it's checking the emails. It's uh, one child who's lost their sockets, the average child who wants to have a cat or not peanut butter on the toasters. It's everything coming at you from outside. And if we start our days like that in reaction mode, we haven't had the chance to be intentional about anything. And often we can get more flustered by those little things that are of course going to come our way in a busy morning regardless. So I'm a really big fan of this commitment to self. And, um, and please do take the time to download the seven minute meditation. You will not regret it. So, um, www dot. Let it in.com. Dot. AAU forward slash Alex with two xs and that will be the link for you to download that, a meditation and morning routine to see if a, if that might create some shifts for you. Alexx: So in, uh, in guys words, he did mystifies meditation to create transformation from the inside out and he's taught hundreds of students approven roadmap that he applies daily, um, to create a future you, you truly desire. And so this is very much, you know, it's almost like a singer songwriter that you can say, I can see those influences from this artist and that artist that came before him. And, uh, and I, I very much see that in, in guy, I think of people like Bruce Lipton, Joe Dispenza, you know, some of the people who are at the absolute forefront of neuroscience and what guys gift is, is taking those often very complex themes, often quite expensive, hard to reach, get to events, et cetera. We have to be realistic about that and create something really accessible for people through his memberships, through his own retreats here in Australia and um, and workshops. So I know a few of you low tuxes have been to guys workshops and really, really enjoyed it. So I'm really looking forward to sharing this chat with you guys today and uh, and I hope you like it as much as I enjoyed this conversation. Alexx: Hey Guy, how are you? Guy: I'm fantastic Alex. Thank you for having me on the show. Alexx: I'm really excited for this conversation, especially now. I know a little bit more about what you've been rabbiting on about all these years, makes him feel like I can actually have a conversation about this rather than being curious about who I'm interviewing. You know what I mean? So for people who haven't come across you, your work, your class with one 80 nutrition, I think we really good to start today by talking a little bit about your, um, therea as a pessimist, China. You know, that was really one of the big things that you were doing as you moved into one 80 and a and the curious reasons as to why you might've left such a burgeoning fantastic, um, supplement company. You know, there's such beautiful whole food powders for people for this movies and, and breakfast bowls and things and uh, and everything was going so well, but you decided to pivot. So I think that's always interesting to learn about people's experiences from the outside. Guy: 100%. Yeah, I'm a realized as well when you, I love the word pivot and there's an element of living life where I realized now that you kind of almost need to stay ahead of the curve in terms of being able to see maybe things that are coming from the way you live in your life. Sometimes we want to deny, uh, what can be happening and we suppress and hide away from it. And then it'll cost us a snowball, can become an avalanche in time. And, and I felt that's what was happening for me. You know, I've always been a searcher, Alex, ever since I can remember. It's just in my DNA. I don't know why. Um, and I always, I'm a daydreamer as well, so I always kind of find the size and go, this is the life I kind of live, but I actually lean in and I've made choices of my life. Guy: There can be the led me on all sorts of directions and pause and, but there was always fundamental beliefs holding me back that I didn't realize subconsciously, um, through my twenties, you know, it cost me many relationships. I never held down a job. I traveled so much and I realized traveling was a way of me avoiding anything really. Even though it, it told me so many beautiful things about life and so many skillsets at the same time, there was a deep sadness inside that wanted me to, what is it? Am I broken? What's on? I just couldn't piece anything together. And I immigrated to Australia in an almost like a last ditch attempt to start from ground zero again. Um, and then I got into the fitness industry and I loved it. I used to play rugby. I was always into my sports and I was passionate about that. Guy: And I really love working with people. I just, I was just, I could talk to people all day. I really could. And especially if we hit it off and I'd like many conversations. And one of the biggest Epiphanes I had was, was seeing that my own belief structure started diminish, especially around nutrition and health. And I'm sure you've seen it with the low talks industry in your own personal journeys, right? Um, and I got really passionate and pissed off about it. So I ended up creating a product and founding a company called one 18 nutrition back in 2010 where I was getting frustrated with people coming into me asking for all this nutritional advice, but then yet leaving, feeling stuck and still eating and doing the same things that were probably getting them into the position in the first place. So I thought if we could create a product that would actually help people not to think make it much easier. Guy: It was like a more natural protein smoothie. We could make an and and the next thing you know, and I was in a place where, I don't know, I, I wasn't happy, but I found this passion and I could move in and within three and a half years we were turning over millions of dollars in a year and I'd never kind of seen anything like that in my own life before. And I was like, oh my God, what the hell is going on with all this? But I was following my heart and I wasn't really attached to anything. But at the same time I had a podcast and I was exploring so many facets of health because I realized that so many beliefs and so many things that I believe to be true that just wasn't on my own belief systems would be challenged. I was like, well, if I'm wrong about that, what else am I wrong about? Guy: Or what am I doing? So I really started to explore the self and explore the health industry and for over that time it just started leading me to a body of work, which is obviously what we're going to end up talking about today. And I couldn't. The more I, the more I learned, the more I just couldn't believe what was going on. And from this exploration, and I'm sure we'll get into it in a sec, but it just got to a point where I was trying to help people with their health. I was trying to get a message out, but for me this, this work was the missing component completely. Because if we're not willing to start to address how we think and our emotional states and on come the observer of those things at any in time, we tend to then find the external things like that can be holding the spark and it could be negative or it could be just poor choices day by day that we make not are continually keeping us in our sells areas where we stuck and it had such an impact on me. Guy: It was actually changing me as a person. I was starting to really evaporate and let go or have a lot of negative belief systems and emotions that I didn't actually realize that I was living with because it was so familiar. Well it's the unconscious mind isn't it? It's the unconscious mind. Yeah, exactly. So then I was found myself in this position where, you know, I was in the company, I was in the business, a partnership with Stu and, and, and it was all going great, but the, the self was dissolving like the, I was breaking down inside to degree. But what I realize now is that I was just shedding the old self and my true self was starting to come through or the next sort of chapter of my own evolution of me if you'd like. And I think that happens so often with all of us, but we don't, we never give them the tools to look at this or handle this or even aware that this exists. Guy: But because I had, cause I was already learning these tools. So instead of suppressing it, which would, I've done what I've done for so many years and why I've got myself in unhappy situations in the past, whether the way I was living my life, I started to embrace it and started to go, okay, well what it was, if this is actually a gift, one of them is if I can actually start to step into this unknown and uh, and allow this better version of myself to come through, or this improved whatever, I don't know if bet as the right word and start to help others with this. So I, I just, it was just bursting out of me. So I made a conscious decision and it was terrifying. Don't get me wrong, you know, I'm set up. I'd finally got to a position in life where I was earning good money. Guy: I'd never experienced that before. I thought this was me, this was, this was my purpose and yet it was unraveling. So my ego, I was able to let it go and have to go, okay, this might be nodded after all. And maybe there's more, maybe there's more to life. And I always think about do I, when I, when I'm old and you know, I'm in my final days of my life cause it's gonna happen for all of us at some stage. I often think about that and look back, would I be happy with this decision I'm about to make right now? Yes or no. And the more I have that relationship and connection with myself, the more I kind of just trying to wonder my heart instead of my head. And it was a big decision that I thought, well if I'm going to teach this stuff and have color to live by it fully, you know, I can't be an 85% and then go around spotting it out, this is what you need to do. It's like, no, no, I want, I want to, I want to inspire people by my actions. Not so much by my words. Yeah. And stepping down and making that decision to move was incredible because it felt like I was coming out of the closet. All right. Alexx: Yeah. Yeah. Well that is a, I mean a lot of people are wondering around feeling trapped by the current situation in some way that, you know, the sensation of being trapped varies to a degree from person to person. But I've met so many people that feel in some way trapped, like they can't see a path forward. Like they don't feel the sense of purpose. And I truly believed that this is what's hurting our communities and our countries to at certain extent this, these lack of being able to harness a, a sense of learning and people to drive a beautiful higher purpose is what makes us also granular is what makes all the troll comments on Facebook is that we're just like so closed in focus, so on open. And uh, and I totally agree with you. When you finally see a way to shed that skin that's been kind of hugging you, tie in a bad way or in a way that no longer feels right for you, uh, then, you know, it's, it's an incredibly freeing, um, emancipating moment. Guy: It's huge under the biggest key factor is, and it took me a while to get it right, was actually you just need to find your edge that you'll come through because I think if we feel safe moving forward, we look forward a lock safe. Cause we always result back to, you know, the old path. And, and I always think about like if you can touch your toes or if you can't touch your toes, there's a point where you know, you're actually stretching your hamstrings, but if you stretch too far, you're gonna pull a hamstring and you're gonna be in a lot of pain. So it's about finding our own edge and stretching that a little bit more. And, and finding areas in your life where the, how small or how big and finding your edge constantly inst on the, become comfortable with that because the more you can become, become comfortable with that, the more you can be comfortable with the unknown and not when you can start to shed and let go and realize that we're not necessarily who we believe we think we are. And then change comes from that in magnificent ways. Alexx: So I have a question here because I think it's a really interesting one. Often wearing relationships or were part of a family at least, uh, where if you're doing all of this incredible in a work, you're stretching yourself beyond your edges. Uh, we're gonna talk about meditation and how that fits into things, uh, in a little second. But you've done all of this work personally and yet your cohabitating with people who have not. How does one navigate that aspect of things Guy: in, in, in what sense that I've missed you the first very few. Alexx: No, that's okay. So I was just curious because you, you talking about all this, um, wonderful awakening, finding your edges, all of that good stuff. And then you're still in your daily life. Like you still married to someone or you've got the three kids or you're looking after your sick mother-in-law or as all the normal things still happening around you. And I'm curious to hear your take on how one navigates that while one is Guy: transforming in their own self. Okay. Okay. Cause that's a big one, right? It's huge. It's huge. And I think that the first element there is, is that we need to proactively want to do this work. And I'm from that place because while I realized in my own circumstances was that I was beginning to change what my circumstances around me weren't changing so that that takes time. And then there's an element of, of um, acceptance is probably the first step into this. So as opposed to resistance, all the difficulties that we have going on, on a daily basis that we actually have to accept this is the situation. I'm here today based upon my choices, conscious, wrong, conscious through my life and take complete ownership of this moment right now. And I think that is the biggest key moving forward. I'm from taking that ownership, we then start to, um, the next step is actually to start to become the observer of our actions during our day. Guy: During that time, because as I'm sure you've mentioned before, you know, 95% of our day is running normally from a program or an unconscious pattern. And we need to start observing, um, stepping outside of that, which we can cause if we consciously aware of what we do and we not running from a program and that's when we can start to change. But I think even if we don't know what we want to move towards, if we're feeling stuck or we have no idea what direction there is cultivating, and Tony robins says it so well, but actually cultivating an attitude of gratitude. Cultivating moments in your day where you can find joy from just being in the moment has a massive, massive impact on the very way you are going to perceive every single situation, moment by moment in your day. So if you can start to actually alter your perception, which is all internal to the way you feel, then you're going to start bringing in more love and more joy into your day without needing an external circumstance to stop making you to feel happy or a certain way. Guy: And once you can start to cultivate that, like truly called the way that this is not just all talk about it. And I'll write a couple of sentences in my gratitude journal and carry on being miserable for the rest of my day. This is actually truly embracing this work. Then from that point you, you start to take complete ownership of your own emotional self and the and the way, not so much the way you think, but being able to observe your thoughts because our reality is governed by our nervous system and I actually believe this work is actually the evolution of the nervous system, which we can get into in a sec if you want, but the nervous system is the filter between what you're perceived in right now in this moment. You're interpreting that through your sensory experiences. Then it has to bypass through your nervous system and your nervous system is sending a signal and come to the rest of your body. So you've got your perception, the filter of the nervous system and then the body and depending on how you're seeing every situation, you're going to be firing a wiring and a certain way and then you're going to be creating emotional states are going to continue to keep you locked in feeling this way and you're never going to see opportunity. Alexx: MMM, okay. I have an example, a personal example on that exact thing. So you're talking about perception filter than the body. I'm talking about when I had really bad mold illness, when it was at its absolute worst, the body was doing all the crazy things that was going through my filter and it was making my mind think I was going to die. So it was kind of coming from the inside out and then it became this negative feedback loop that I started to consciously realize I was in. That made me start doing the work to change to being perception filter body. Guy: Exactly. So if you, if you've lived a certain way for a certain period of time, I'm almost of us, let's be honest, we are creatures of habit. You have created a familiar feeling that's going on and that's definitely, and that feeling is so familiar. That is how you identified yourself and the, the, the ego part of you was, is, is holding on to that because that's you. That's, that's how you expect it to be. Now that feeling is producing a, a hormone and a chemical at any given moment. Okay. And not this constantly sending a signal. You've got a million cells coming online. Every single second they turn over. That's what the body's doing. And all the body wants to do is keep you in homeostasis. It wants to keep you safe. We have what's called the biological imperative, the, the drive to survive, right? Like Bruce Lipton talks about this a lot and the moment you start to have a, a different feeling outside of your own familiarity, alarm bells are going to start going off, whether it's a positive feeling or not. Guy: So that's why the very things that we can want to move towards okay is, um, can feel scary and uncomfortable because it's produced different feelings and those feelings that is producing something that we are not familiar with. I mean, I often joke, but some people don't. If they've not received love in a long time, the moment they start to receive level, get a hug from someone, you can freak them out because they're just not used to feeling that. So that means then we are chemically dependent because we have to produce chemicals to produce a feeling and we become chemically dependent. The body becomes chemically dependent upon the way it feels because we have to produce that. Like if, so we can basically get very, um, attached to the way we think and the way we feel subconsciously. And the body's doing all the work for you. Guy: And if you think about that, we are actually programmed these days for stress. Most people are running 70 to 80% from the hormones of stress. That's a fact. I'm sure everyone here has gone on holiday and gotten sick or finally gone. Whoa. I really needed that break. So we're, we're, we're constantly hammering the nervous system and sending a very different signal to the body. And I think I was interviewing Cristiana knows what I think was talking about chat with everybody. I'll pop it in the notes. Okay, thank you. Yeah. But soon as seen an American, now 80% of doctor related medical issues are stress related. Right? So it's a big problem. And I think the biggest thing we can actually do is start to start at firstly be aware that we are, we could be, we could be not actually running on our true selves. We could be running from a stress response and actually start bringing it back and reprogramming that homeostasis, reprogram that nervous system and get in a body that's dependent upon those feelings to, to really start to cut the supply, cut the cord. And, and you will be literally like a junkie probably having withdrawal symptoms for a couple of weeks. I had a, I had a month of crazy withdrawal symptoms. Guy: But then if you stop, go through that like a lifetime of choices and habits can't be fixed in a couple of days or this is, this is, this is life changing stuff that requires processes and on a shift and a shift in thinking. But, but you can't change that here. The evolution of how, go deep for a sec, cause it's been on my mind lately and I've been bringing it up. So if you think about the evolution of consciousness right itself, it'd be fair to say that more recently we have as a human species, we are evolving quicker. Okay. Where were we getting smarter as a species and to where we might be 500 years ago and all the way back to if we were an ape changing and then you got extremely smart people, a of just got a higher level of consciousness. Like you know Steve Jobs and Einstein and all these people that were just on the other spectrum and you got us kind of in the middle. Right? But it's, it's progressively moving forward. I know I'm not the same person I was even five years ago because my awareness is evolving and if consciousness is awareness, then that needs my consciousness and slowly evolving unexpanded but the issue is if I try solving my problems, my situations or anything of the same level of mind that created it, then I'm never going to change. Because Alexx: where people get trodden down by willpower and best intentions and all that kind of stuff. Guy: Exactly. And the few belief consciousness, uh, is, is, is, is us and it requires the nervous system to run through to have an direct experience. Then wouldn't it make sense to evolves the, the nervous system, which is actually governing the homeostasis in the first place. I've been able to expand that awareness and as we expand that awareness, then for me what I, the way I start to look at it, then it requires a development of the nervous system improving the autonomic nervous system because that's actually what runs every single system within body. But by doing that, it allows us to grow and we start to meet it at a different level of mine. Because from this work, as you start to get out of your head more and into your heart and start allowing a, this worked one fold, a deeper connection to everything starts to unfold as well. Guy: And there's a deeper sense of knowingness and a deeper sense of purpose can come from and joy and love and happiness and all these more positive states of being. And eventually you can start to be in a place where you don't actually want for anything because you're just feeling good about yourself and you stand to meet it at a different level of mind. And that that created it in the first place. Cause most of the decisions we've been constantly making probably based on Shia or based on lack or based on security and buttoning down the hatches. Well, we'd always going to continue to get the same if we choose to do that. Yeah. But one of my biggest wake up calls was when I actually the first time achieve what was deemed as success in my life. I still wasn't happy. It still hadn't fulfilled but ended up polling side. I'm like, I thought that was it. I mean it was, and what is that? I mean Alexx: stepping stone rather than, you know, quite often we think ms supposed to arrive somewhere, but really it's all just stepping stones. Guy: Exactly, exactly. And I think we've gone, well kind of from the question you asked, I don't even remember what it was, but to bring it back to the daily basis, that's why for me it's so important because all we have is now, and I know philosophically we can understand it and intellectualize it. You know, they say, you know, if you, if you're in the future, you and you, it's gonna make you're anxious. You know, if you're in the past you can get depressed and now is the gift of the presence in the moment. They call it the present. But it's like if you can really start to embrace that and pull yourself out of those patterns, then it can really start become a game changer. Because once you start to find those deeper, that deeper fulfillment without the need for an external circumstance to deliver that the way starts to show itself. Guy: It really does. But your, your your now back in control. And I think the, the name of the game has been able to, no matter what's going on in life, and don't get me wrong, I haven't got this in the bag, but I work at it. You know, no matter what's going on in your external world, like you've got this from the inside out and, and if, if, oh, there's anger right now, I can feel myself coming in and becoming angry or there's some negative salts coming up. We, we, we, we're not necessarily our, our thoughts and our emotions. There's a part of us that can observe that say like storm clouds that come in, I'm come out, you know, when you honor it, you don't have to suppress it. You just let it pass through until the, the, the is left. Alexx: MMM. Well, Dr Joan Rosenberg talks about the fact that as soon as 90 seconds of a, of, of feelings, so if you're actually happy to acknowledge that it's a wave, you can let a wave wash over you and that's doable. If you think about it in a 92nd context, everyone can do that Guy: 100% but if you don't process those charges, which we never really are taught and we hold staff trauma things our whole life, then the body is going to hold that in and we might not even know it's there and not. It's going to be constantly then create enough familiarity of what you deemed to be known as safe because it's familiar and you're going to send a very certain signal to the nervous system constantly. The autonomic nervous system, which of course is governing the whole service doctor, the whole body essentially. It's amazing. Alexx: Yeah. So can I ask, because people might be going, wow, this sounds really interesting and I feels like the right time to just break it down to something really tangible. Like to get a window into, uh, how you do this work and what format it takes for you every day. What does it look like to do the work, to break the programs of the past and our familiarity and our subconscious thinking and to start to become an observer. What, what does that look like for you on a day to day basis? Guy: Okay, so it starts with the practice. Ultimately then there needs to be skill set required to, to learn and do everyday just like go into the gym. You haven't lifted weights before and you can only lift three kilos and then it's four, then six and then you get stronger. It evolves over time. So for me, there's a couple of areas of practice and this is where you start small and then all of a sudden this window of dining goes super deep. But the first, the first thing I do is there's two practices that I, I always start people off and on. One is, um, and I, because I always say meditation is actually do what you do with your eyes open during your day. That's where true meditation is necessarily sitting and quiet in the morning. But then you marry them up. So a meditation practice, and I would recommend styling for a minimum of 10 minutes a day. Guy: And I say 10 minutes in the morning when you first get up, because there's, there's going to be an internal struggle going on. The moment you sit down and close your eyes, you're going to find yourself latching onto all sorts of things. The thoughts, your email, you want, your coffee is cold, is hot, it's noisy, it's this, it's that. And all of those things are happening because your body wants to remain distracted from the present moment that you start to highlight how much addiction you might have to different things with our yourself, even knowing it. So if you can conquer it, sitting down for 10 minutes every morning, how the hell are you going to conquer it when, when the world is happening and flying at you? And there's all sorts of things going on. So, so you need to start in a place like that first. Guy: And the second thing that I always encourage people is a gratitude practice and it's massive. And then you can combine them both, but even bringing it into your day when you least want to do it, because you then break in that emotional state. You're then starting to, you might be running on the hormones of stress. You might be getting caught up and it's like, wow, can I flip this switch? Can I go back to breathing another, my heart and five minutes and reset a different, very signal to my autonomic nervous system and see if I can get myself out of sympathetic into parasympathetic, into rest and repair on doing that alone will, it will help reset the body and then you're going to start to come back at a different level of mind through your day. Because ultimately we're, you know, we're a collection of unconscious choices moment by moment by moment. That's why we're, we are where we're at right now. So then two things are absolutely beautiful and they marry up really well and it's very subtle at first. But the feeling will start to, to, um, to change over time. And other people will see it in you. They'll, they'll feel it as well cause your energy will start to change. Animals feel it. Little animal magnet, Alexx: little doggies and cats just come up to me and they're like, hey Guy: 100%. Exactly right. And then you start to look at, but we need, I think one of the missing components, uh, is support. Like we always want to go and tackle this stuff alone. Um, the other thing we need to practice as well is [inaudible] look blind, find our voice again. Cause sometimes we can, um, we can suppress our true self to fit in the needs of others to fit in our community or whatever it might be. And all these things are piling down upon us day by day. So, so by slowly cultivating those two practices and being aware, then you're going to start to notice things coming to up that comes in. Having a reference point of other people that are going through the same thing. I've been able to share the same thing, encourage it and have compassion instead of just dumping upon your way. Guy: You, you know what's going on here, have you lost the plot and you know, then then, then you're always going to divert back to the old self always. And I think people don't actually realize how powerful and needed that is. It's massive. And whenever I make changes in life, whenever I'm going to fail, I will always see people that are living and breathing examples of what it is I want to develop with. And I'll always put myself in communities then that have raised the bar of where I'm at and I want to be around that kind of association to help not put you down, but actually helped lift you out. Alexx: So does it feel like then, because this actually comes exactly back to the question that I asked like half an hour ago, that we tangented all over the place around what you do as a member of a family, a partnership, etc. Does it then mean that, like I always talk about low tox knowledge as picturing a big rope and there are some people who are climbing that rope of a bit further than you and they're holding their hand back and they're reaching out to you to drag you up so that you can then do the same for people who, uh, a bit for the behind you on the journey. So it almost feels like when you know you want to move forward, it's okay that the people around you aren't there or aren't there yet. It's more about you seeking a support network where that is happening. Therefore changing your energy, raising your vibration and your emotional state. And by being the change often you then start to see people around you become curious about how, how you're able to be so calm and, and content. Um, is that kind of where you, how you found it working? Guy: Yeah, absolutely. And you, nobody likes told what to do. No, they don't. And just because this is one, just because this is one person's journey, it doesn't mean it's another person's journey. No matter how close you are. To them, no matter how much you love them, we're all individual having this human experience. That's how I see it. So if we want to influence people for the better, then the only way we can do that is by being our own example of our best version of ourselves. And from that, um, people will start to resonate 100% but we, we need to take ownership first of ourselves. And quite often we try and influence others to, to fit in without personal needs or our personnel gains. But those personal needs and gains might actually be coming from a very fear based place that we are not even aware of. Guy: So the whole situation just continues to go. So we need to take a hundred percent ownership. Okay, I'm going to do this. If you're in a relationship like over within, leaded in, um, you know, I had a, an amazing example. So I had a lovely lady, Belinda. She came to me very stressed out, comes from not triphasic Rhodes but wanting to learn this work. And yet her partner, like they've hopefully spoke to me about this on the podcast, but her partner was ex police force, a PTSD sufferer, you know, some serious traumatic stuff going on. And you can imagine what his lens of life would be like. Yeah. From that nervous system firing in that way all the time. Now he had huge resistance to her cause she was starting to change. I started to evolve, but she kept true to herself. And then there was a moment where Chris was our bloody hell. Guy: I better go on Jeff to six months. It might've been okay. It seems to be working for her. I've got to realize I'm, maybe I need to try something new or different. And then, and then by that is evolution. There's no changes and now they're there on this back, on this tangent together, which is a beautiful thing. Right. And then they can support each other more. But um, you know, the only thing we can do is, yeah, take 100% ownership of ourselves first. And what you find with this work, you actually have more compassion for other people. Once you go through it and you understand that you will see the pain within other people. You want just to like stop judging people. How did the sense Chile evaporates? Yeah. And you've, you've got to, if you, if he's still judging people for, for what I did like let it go because if you required a judge somebody else, and I still catch myself time to time, you know, but, but at the end of the day, there's something in you that you haven't resolved to, to vent that judgment on someone else. Yeah. And that's, that's what you need to do is sit the mirror. Alexx: So how do we, uh, because this is a huge thing people struggle with. Even if they're starting to do some work on their cells, they, they know that meditation is a great way to, uh, to help us personally evolve. How can we move meditation? I'm curious about your thoughts on this. I have my own from a a have two and a no, I should do to as if I would miss it. Guy: Hi again. I can only speak for myself personally. Alexx: No, I'm really interested to see, you know what that point was for you, where you just started to show up versus, yeah, it's an embody Guy: experiment experience. So it's like trying to explain somebody what Spain is like. If they've not been to Spain before and they can look at the brochure, they can do all these things, but unless they actually experienced it, they'll never know. So then they truly need to want to go to Spain first for the problem with meditation is that it can be a slow burn initially because you know you're coming up against yourself, but you can amplify experiences very quickly. Like I was only, I run a, uh, energy center meditation for my community last night or this, and I was chatting to a gentleman afterwards that had this huge impart experience up to 40 minutes and he was discussing and he was like, I didn't know whether it be free. He was just lit up. Yeah. And I said to him, you've just experienced something that people might not have experienced for years by sitting on a stool every morning. Guy: And Go and wandering aimlessly trying to figure it all out. Washing. Am I doing this right? My question. Bye Bye. Coming into a community of people because you can amplify it, you can amplify it through work and so forth. But now he's at a new reference point cause he's got a new reference point. He is extremely hungry to figure out a way how to get back there and do it again because he's now starting to feel it from the inside out. I know we can take away our own experiences from us. So to take it from normally what happens, most people will get to a point where they're in so much pain, they go enough, I've got to change something and then they start to go, I'm going to, they've probably tried everything else and then I go, I'm going to give this crazy thing ago or whatever belief systems that have rounded and then ideally if they can then get enough momentum to make some decisions and that's where a community and a reference point and other people come into play. Guy: Because if you're around people that are talking about it all the time, say, Oh my God, I've been having this, I manifest this into my life, these changes I'm making. My kids is just more relaxed all the time now. And my relationships, like if you're sharing that you're going to want to find a way to do it. But if all you've got when you come out of your, into your conscious day is people around you that are, that are not have it at all, then it's, it becomes more challenging. So it's, it's being able to smart enough to go, you know what, I think there's something in this, I'm ready to do the work. And then finding ways to fast track that. Otherwise it's always going to be a struggle. Alexx: 100% and you know, I see this with every change that you want to make. Maybe it's dietary and you're the only family on your street or in your school who's eating, you know, whole foods and trying to cook everything from scratch and really making a go of it. And then you go to social functions and there's twisties and Doritos and all these things and the pain. It feels painful to say what you have personally moved on from around you. You feel painful to people. It's not judgment. I personally don't ever think it's judgment, but it almost feels like you get whacked in the face with reality and you need the safe haven of a nice big community that's doing this work as well. Whether that stitching toxins, changing the food you're rating or evolving beyond your personal reality today. Absolutely massive. So I'd love to know, I'm just still on meditation as a practice. Alexx: I am a huge fan of music. I tried meditating for years with all sorts of different ways and the the silent meditation with absolutely no cues at all, nothing, just nothing I could just never ever was something I looked forward to. Even though I'm someone who's able to look forward to things if they're challenging, if that makes sense. You know what I mean? Like a five. Find a greater sense of purpose around the thing. It doesn't matter if it's not a great experience for me. I'll know that it was worth it, but with silent meditation, not, never felt with it and then, but never excited and never felt worth it. Never. So regrettable sense of purpose. As soon as music came into the equation for me, that really transformed things for me. And I'd be curious to say, you know, I know you take your lidded in community, which we'll go into a little bit through, um, all sorts of different meditations. You talked about energy, um, centers, and that's one of the most powerful forms of meditation that I've ever experienced myself as well. Um, music or no music, does it matter? Uh, is it really dependent on the individual? Guy: I think none of it matters. I really, I actually think they are all tools to get us to the same place. And I think, and I've certainly met, I've met people on that, you know, um, Tom Campbell, the NASA physicist is one person that springs to mind, but you can literally not meditate anymore and be in a meditative state all day with your eyes open. Yeah. And you just, you're just there. Right. So, so everything that we have and I, and I would see it cause you get people seeing, get emotionally attached to different things. And so I was helping Moto bought a workshop the other week. Somebody had brought all these crystals in and they were lining them up this Chaquez oranges. Wow. How necessary is that? But if it helps us get somewhere, then it's, then it's great. And if it doesn't, it's not necessary. Alexx: Yeah. Cool. So it really is about the individual, and I guess an analogy that just popped up that I was writing down then was that people enjoy different modes of transport to get to the same destination. Guy: Exactly. And different drivers. Yeah. And so forth. But I think you have, I think as well, meditation is interpreted very differently depending on our belief system. For me, meditation is not about necessarily quiet in the mind, but it's been able to become the observer of the mind and the feelings. So there's a separation and, and when you let go fully, you can like, um, I know Joe Dispenza, we'll talk about, you know, you reached the quantum field, or you could call it a zero point consciousness, the defined the divine matrix, whatever, whatever names that are forwards. And then it's almost like the soulful self visit. There's a undeniable connection to something greater and larger, uh, than US individually. For me, once you get into that connection, that's where the subconscious is, is your, you're in the subconscious now and, and that's where I want to change something about it. Guy: So I want to reorganize my autonomic nervous system and to do that, I need to generate emotional states. [inaudible] to me, that's what music really comes into play because not only can it just, you know, it's going to inspire me more. Do I need the music? Uh, maybe, maybe not, I don't know. But I love having that music to come in. But then you can take music a step further and actually just using sound frequence necessarily fearful, orchestrated music. But to a point where there's a certain frequency set for certain energy center, which which can help because ultimately if you believe we are physical matter and energetic beans, so there's, there's, there's a combination of both. Then what quantum physics and sciences talking about now is that they always used to think the smallest particle riches going back down to the quantum level is actually producing the energy field. Guy: But now they say no, hang on. Is this the energy field producing the particle, which is a very different school of thought and it's very brutally different tone, your physics side and biology. So, so that energy can become coherent or in inquest. That can be a density too dependent on our non emotional states by using sound as well. You can actually tune in and start to reorganize that frequency, which of course starts sending a different signal. But we get, we, again, this is going into deeper stuff, but then you need to allow body to release that stored energy to move. And that might come out as Tias that might come out. It was all sorts of laughter, feelings fit, whatever that is. Alexx: Yeah. And convulse volts, you've kind of body movement. Guy: Yeah absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, because quite often the nervous system is not, not used to or required to run a higher amplitude of energies because sometimes I stole the energy has to come out at a higher amplitude. So the body will reorganize itself to allow it to come through us and out of us. And then we finally fully processed the, the, the, the incident, the emotion, the trauma, whatever is we held onto that could have been from when we were three years old and we don't even know it's there and fascinates me. Alexx: It is fascinating. And I, I've, I remember when I started doing meditation, I started actually doing Joe's work. Even just last year, um, more intensely I guess, or more regularly is probably a better word. Uh, I had never seen anyone else do it. And this is why the community aspect and will I really want to get into talking about the work you do in terms of the structured work you take people through. Um, because I think it's so important. So I had just done these meditations very quietly. You know, I'd even heard his voice taking me through the breath and moving my energy up my spine and all the things I thought I was doing it well and I was having a few little interesting moments. Sure. But it wasn't until I went onto the advanced wake long where you're shown and surrounded by so many people who've been doing the work for a lot longer. Alexx: Uh, and I realized just how much of the autonomic nervous system released came into play to really shift things. And as soon as I was almost given that visual audit, audible permission to really let rip, it's just like this is on. And uh, and it's really amazing what comes up. So even because you unlock the door, the smallest sentence in a meditation, if you're being guided can just release a whole bunch of stuff. I'll never forget standing on the beach, on the sunshine coast, my headphones doing the morning meditation and at one point you're walking into your future and that whole pot Spain happening and it was really exciting. Then you're told to stand still and look out onto the horizon and a trends, and then put your hand on your heart and turn your love inwards. I burst into tears, hysterical crying because the energy, keeping that energy all for myself and loving myself when I'm such an outward loving person was almost too much to bear. It was so unfamiliar and a, and it was just such a moment for me in this whole exercise we call the work and uh, and I think, you know, it, it's just such a, an amazing thing to, to realize all these different little levels that people can go through. Guy: Yeah. And then once you have those experiences, you can't undo them. Not No. And then you bring that memory into your current day. Right. And it, it really starts to change the way you perceive every situation, moment by moment. And that's, that's where we make our choices in life. And it, it changes your whole trajectory. Alexx: Yeah. That's fair enough. Yeah. So, um, you obviously have created this community and I sort of don't really want to call it a business. It's just more of a community energetically. It feels like a better word and it's called lead it in. And uh, the guys who've been listening to the show so far this month, I've heard me talk about it a little bit because, uh, you're offering our communities amazing meditation, uh, that you have on your website, uh, this month, which I think is a great way to celebrate the show that we're talking to each other with today. What made you, how, how did that take shape and what did you decide it was going to look like? And does it evolve as things go on? Guy: It constantly involves hundred percent. I, um, I wanted to create something where I felt like was needed and an almost that was missing in my life from learning and doing this work. And that was to be able to have a safe place to come and connect people to know the, not alone to do this and move forward and cultivate a practice around it. Because the more I learned about this work, the more deeper gets and the more almost reassurance we need sometimes that we not going crazy. And this, this is all perfectly normal, you know, especially from my own experiences. And I wanted to create literally a roadmap that I kind of take myself on and how can I condense stuff for people so they can achieve the same results but in a quicker process. So in my vision, there was always going to be a community of people coming together. Guy: And of course the Internet is the best place to do that. At least they connected. So that was the first step. And then it was like, how can I simplify this work in such a way that there's a, there's a process and if they're willing to follow the dots, they're gonna get, go in and have Aha moments and then they can start the piece, all the bigger picture stuff together and on the science on go, not go, not, but stop the intellect blind in you from taking action. Let's just start taking action. So, so that's when the online membership model evolves. And, and I knew if I stopped beating this drum and I'm going to draw people in, but that was only one piece of the puzzle because obviously I wanted to create workshops where people can come in unexperienced and meet me and on do that, which I am doing around the country. Guy: And then there always for years, Alex just rental doing retreats like I've gone tell her dog too many retreats over many, many years experience different mentors and awesome people. And it was just in me too too. Bringing that process together to do it in, in a way that I felt was safe, effective and could take people through a journey and a process and actually start to even speed up that process even quicker. Cause like once you have those embodied experiences, we start to do that. And obviously I've met a lot of amazing people to work with as well over the years. And uh, I've teamed up with a couple of people that I feel are amazing and they feel, and uh, we started combining three day retreats together as well. And so there's like, there's almost like a, I'm all in my mind is almost like a 12 months blueprint where you can go, right. I mean, I'm going to go through all this and you'll come out the other side and you kind of go, wow, now I get it. Now I understand that. Alexx: And do you create, I mean, I would imagine that because you're taking people on a journey, a defined learning space as why I write equals is rather than a, you know, 50 billion blogs, um, there's, there's a sense of people really committing and a sense that they're immersed in other people who have made that same commitment. Guy: Massive. Yeah. And, and, and not say, I actually, I joke when I'm even render workshop, I take over to her like only joined a few granny. I get no good to any of us. If you, if like to join them, leave. And I understand we, we love the idea of change, but then we get caught up, but they will become a pint about people join, leave, and then rejoined six months later. I had somebody just spoke into my retreat the other day that came to my workshop 18 months ago. Right. I'm ready, I'm all in. And then she signed up to [inaudible] and it's like, great, brilliant. You know, and I'm not going to expect people to be in there forever either. Like I understand it's okay, but you know, there's just this point where you think, yeah, you know, in your heart when you're ready to do this work. Alexx: Hmm. And maybe you're that person stepping stone on their own journey and it's like, ah, I need this guy guy in my, exactly right now and now I'm, I need to move on. And I think that's, um, that's a really beautiful thing to be able to acknowledge that that's the experience of [inaudible]. Guy: Yeah, no, I always wanted to, after going through what I did with one 80 and coming out the side, I always wanted to just do something that was purely coming from my heart and be very conscious of every single decision I make moving forward without putting pressure on myself or stress, you know, and getting caught up in the business aspect too much of it. Because I think that's where we can come and start quite often, especially when you're trying to build a business or living or doing what you, you do and it's like, Whoa, can't we produce something that's coming from hot that actually is contributing and creates, you know, a winning situation for everyone that's evolved and actually fall in love with this themselves though. And from doing conscious a Dolan, I literally just opened the door and say, this is the door I walked through. This is how I did it. If you want it follow up, but I'll just hold the door open a few. You have to do the work yourself, like my icon. I can't change you. I'm just here to show you how to change yourself. Alexx: Yeah. And that is so key, isn't it? Because in a world where everyone is chasing the silver bullet, everyone is trying to attach, not everyone, but most people, our culture sort of dictates that we need to find these gurus where the answer is somewhere else in someone else in someone else's way. And the answer is inside us. Guy: Exactly. Exactly. And if I can do it, trust me, anyone can do this is just need, you just need to want it more than your current situation. Alexx: Hmm. Um, so on a retreat, uh, obviously, you know, meditating old day every day, what you mentioned there are a couple of other people that you've linked up with. What can people expect because there's so many different retreats out there and uh, I knew pretty quickly on in my retreat story that I wasn't one for those gentle yoga and grains movie at sunset with a massage kind of retreat. I want shifts, I want ugly, I want greasy, I want, you know, I want to really rattle things and see where I can take myself. Um, what kind of a retreat, if you were making a brochure, would it, would it, it's certainly not a cocktails. Guy: So, so essentially I teamed up with, um, Matt Omo and, um, he has been in this, this body of work for over 15 years. He's phenomenal. Uh, he works with sound and, uh, I had the huge, huge shifts that releasing when I worked with them about six or seven years ago. That's my first met Matt. And I was just blown away the whole, the grief of my past and dad came out of me that had been holding on for a couple of years and it was just incredible and I was like taking 20 kilos off my backpack and I don't really even in this work. And, um, and uh, we've become really, really good friends, you know. So there was math, I always wanted to do some work for Matt. So, um, and uh, the other person is that we wanted to bring a female energy into the equation as well. Guy: And um, we work with Petra Brzozowicz who I met on a small Joe Dispenza retreat in Costa Rica 18 months ago. And she's just incredible with this work. She actually trains Joe Dispenza's trainers, um, and she's been involved in this work a long time and has an experience and we call it the let go and live in flow, which is literally letting go of the old to allow you to, to find more flow and serenity in your life. And, and to do that, we need to start getting it out of your body. And we use a movement in Yoga and breathing and sound on, but it's done in a very safe, controlled manner. We actually create a few environments where you have to control your emotional states. Uh, we keep people in the unknown, so they don't know what they get each day. So, um, but they know what, what the outcome is, you know, so we kind of help bring people together, connect and people make friends for life. Guy: You know, it's, it's intimate. There's no hiding, you know, it's not like going to old people with 1100 people there. It's, it's much smaller and intimate. Yeah. And uh, and it's, yeah, it's amazing. I've been blown away by the response we sold out within six weeks when we opened it up for August and then we just opened up another one a couple of weeks ago with all of our hearts and spots full as well. And we'll be opening them up more and more next year. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I just love it. I wish it was tomorrow and not six weeks or eight weeks or whenever it was. Alexx: Well, luckily time three third dimension time moves fast so it'll be here before you know it, but we do that Guy: that as well. Absolutely. Alexx: Yeah. Amazing. Um, there are a couple more questions I want to ask you. One because you have your own podcast and you interview some great people. Uh, Guy: okay. Alexx: Can you think of off the bat something that has truly blown you away that someone has shared that in all your experiences of life you'd had so far up until the point of that interviewer or that interviewee and that thing that they said you had just never thought that way before? Guy: Who comes to mind for that? That's actually really big question I say. I always think about the way they leave me feeling afterwards. Normally, sometimes I walk away from days grim. Oh my God, that was just amazing. And I get to sit there like a kid in a candy store just chatting to awesome, awesome people. And I gotta be honest, still to this day, the personal left me walking away. That feeling was a guy called Joshua man [inaudible]. He wrote a book called duty of the die, a beauty of a darker soul. And I'll quickly very quickly share the story with you. But he was a platoon leader on essentially they went off and he got it, him and his mate during Afghanistan and they got shot. He got shot by a sniper. And I won't go into this because the story itself is just unbelievable. Alexx: And do we have this show on your library check, right. Guy: And, and um, he ended up dying for 15 minutes and when he came out of that, he, um, he still survived, which was quite incredible for being flatlined. And I don't know if you know anything about CPR, but the brain dies after four minutes or there's been there for 15 was just normal and he went into a huge depression or do suicidal [inaudible] to his life or as you can imagine, PTSD. But at right at the end, um, he said, uh, you know, the troll, he was so grateful for the incident because the incident only triggered what was already within him prior to that that caused him to go into depression and PTSD. It wasn't the incident itself and the way which was amazing and the way you come out the other side. Um, all of that on. Now what he's doing is he is in studying quantum physics, like is fully down this rabbit hole. And he was such a nice guy, but that just hit me in a way when he, when he's there describing it and you just, he was just as roar energy and I've had some amazing people on there. Like all this work. I just dive right down into, you know, yeah. But yeah, he left sat with me, still said to me when I think about it. Alexx: Yeah. Well I can say it. It was just like, oh my gosh. It's like months and years later. Yeah. Um, okay. So to finish this, uh, beautiful conversation, I'd love to ask you Guy: to share, uh, Alexx: what a beautiful morning might look like for someone wanting to gently step their way through starting to do some of this work. So what would a beautiful morning look like for them? That first thing in the morning, what does it look like? Guy: Okay. If they want to start this work and this a beautiful morning for them, um, they, they want to jump out of bed for the star, like actually jump, literally jump out of bed and go, okay, game on. I'm now awake. I've been given this gift over a day, you know, called life and I really want to embrace and be the best version of myself for it today and I'm going to fill up my cup first. I'm going to take ownership of myself before I serve everyone else and be given for everyone else. Cause if I don't have enough to give myself today, then how can I be expected to give on an empty tank to other people that are daily care about and love and want to be there for so well thinking like that I would sit down and then I'd encourage them to set an intention for the day. Guy: Where's my, how do I, how do I want this to go? What w how can I embody something? What mantra can I hold onto the remind myself of this moment right now? And then I would just go into the heart and I would breathe in and out, in and out of the heart and I would feel my life. But at the very bit of my heart, you know, and stop too, feel grateful for this, this moment we started culpable. Cultivate those feelings and emotions and really let it pour over. Because once you start getting used to that, it can become so addictive. It's thought to love life. Hmm. And then, and then you can, once you get in south field and then as you get good at this, you're able to drop into the, they offer and see the states. You can get into our subconscious and then you can start to feel emotions and feelings as if you've already achieved something. Guy: What is it I'm going for? Where am I? What is I want to be? Who do I want to become? What am I doing? And then I'd hold those states and then when I feel like I own it, like really own it and I feel it in every cell of my body, I would just set my thanks and my appreciation and I would get up from that, a different person to run. I sat down and you can't tell me if you're not willing to give that a go and do that. It's not going to change the direction of your life and who you are as opposed to turning on the alarm. Can a check in your emails when two minutes, you know, it's on Facebook and getting caught up and keeping yourself distracted because those distractions are continuously keeping you from the very things that you want in your life. Guy: But that's why I call it let it in. Like you really have to start allowing that process to happen. Stop forcing things and hoping that's gonna make things quicker. Me, you know, cause it doesn't, it just keeps pushing it away. It's just like constantly chasing the carrot and you'll never grabbed, you know, so I, and I think if you can just start with that and we've come alive, you know, I like to move in the morning as well. I do yoga, I have a cold shower normally, or finish on a cold shower and all of a sudden I'm, I'm ready. I'm prepared. And then, uh, and then if I, if I don't do that for, I, I really notice it, I'll, I really notice it. Alexx: Yeah. My son came into my bedroom this morning just as I was about to start my meditation and he's like, mom, can we practice some fractions? And in my mind I was like, Betty, my mouth came out of course weighty jump in and we were huddling and I thought, no, I'm going to be grateful for this moment right now. Exactly. And then I started planning, okay, when in my morning am I going to slot this meditation? And ideally I'd like to get it in before I chat to you, like before my workday starts. And so that I feel really calm, open, focused. And so I decided when I dropped him off to school that I would go straight to the blood tests that I needed to get because I was doing some annual bloods and uh, and just sit in the waiting room and do my meditation there. Alexx: And I just became completely oblivious to the crazy children running around and everything going on in that waiting room. I was this zen, zen person and then got in trouble from the nurse for not hurting Nicole. But it was perfect. And I think, you know, for me it illustrated that a few things sometimes happen that do bust us out of our ideal morning routine. But if you're committed, you find a, you really do find a way and you start to find a way more and more. Once you realize the meaning of turning him with what it can give you. Guy: But, but you find a way. But you also find when the moments to be like you just said, oh, this is the time to be with my son as opposed to getting frustrated with it all because I can't do the work like at all, you know? And that's where the flow of life comes in and the, and the ABS. And I've been able to navigate and read that and just go with it more and just think this is, this is a gift right now. I'm gonna I'm going to embrace it. Yeah. Alexx: Yeah. I just love that. My son loves math. It's really intense. I was always a bit of a maths nerd, not in the school sense, but I just love problem solving. So to just lie in bed, cuddle and help him out with some fractions and seeing him get it was just bliss. So, um, so yet it had to be the medical waiting room for me this morning. But I think it was great that that came up because often we at lay what looks perfect and what would be the perfect way to do things. And then people are ashamed in their own little corner of the world when it isn't perfect and it doesn't work out that way. Okay. So good. Guy: Join the present moment and it can happen when it happens. Yeah. Yeah. The quicker you let it go, the quicker you can move on. Hm. Alexx: So good guy. Thank you for this amazing chat. Everyone can find you obviously at a, on your website, we've got all of the details there. Is there a particular place you like for people to connect with you most? Guy: Look, I'm the website guylawrence.com.au. It's got everything on there. I've, I've got another URL which has literally led to it in Dotcom that I, you and a Instagram. I'm pretty active on there. You'll see me in an ice bath normally. Alexx: So do you do one of those every day? Guy: Every week? I do. I just had on this phone and actually, yeah. Alexx: Fabulous. Well, I'm encouraging everybody to get in touch. Uh, check out the website. Obviously the wonderful meditation that's available for everybody to sign up to and, and experience. Uh, it's definitely gonna be worth your time. Thank you once again, God for joining me on the show. Guy: Thank you for having me. Really appreciate it. Guy: Cool guys with you, enjoyed that conversation I had with Alex. I loved it, you know, and uh, hopefully the, a little bit of wisdom in there and if you've made it to the end then I'm sure you did, which is awesome. And where do I want to mention as well is that, not sure if you know, but I've made it easier than ever to access my free meditation. I have a seven minute meditation that I, um, give away and it's supported with my five step morning routine plus a section of my workshop. Like it's all there freely available like at my website, guylawrence.com.au. Or You just click the free meditation times and it's easier than ever. Now you can just log into like almost an app and you can scream. The meditation is designed to interrupt. Your Day is 27 minutes. Everybody's got seven minutes. And uh, it's one of my goats rituals that I do daily or highly recommend or a lot of long on my five step routine. If you haven't checked that out, back to the website. Yeah. Cool. See you next week.

#83 My awesome guest this week is Lisa Tamati. This conversation will have your jaw wide open in amazement by the end of it! We dive into the depths of her unshakable mindset on how she overcame some incredible athletic feats, and more recently, her relentless quest to help her mother who suffered a severe brain aneurysm and stroke. The journey with Lisa and her mum will have you in awe of what the human body and spirit is capable of. Enjoy! About Lisa: Lisa Tamati is New Zealand's best known ultramarathon runner. Since the publication of her first book, Running Hot, she has gone on to run ultramarathons in the Gobi Desert, the Sahara Desert and the Himalayas. Learn more about Lisa Tamati: www.lisatamati.com Learn more about Guy: www.guylawrence.com.au Let It In Academy: www.letitin.com.au TRANSCRIPT Please note, this is an automated transcript so it is not 100% accurate. Guy: Hi, I'm Guy Lawrence and you are listening to the guylawrence podcast. If you're enjoying this content and you want to find out more and join me and come further down the rabbit hole, make sure you head back to the guylawrence.com.au. Awesome guys. Enjoy the show. Guy: Lisa, welcome to the podcast. Lisa: Nice to be here Guy. I really, really privileged to be on your show. Thanks for having me. Guy: Oh, you're so welcome. I have to say, I was, I was looking at all the fits you've done and I was, I had no idea where to start this show to be honest here because there's so many incredible things that you've achieved and I, yeah, I'm excited to be diving into all that. But the one thing I do ask everyone is if a stranger stopped you on the street and asked you what you did for a living, what would you say? Lisa: Um, I help people reach their potential, um, more about high performance and, uh, helping people be the best version of themselves that they can be. That's what I do now these days. Guy: Yeah. Which is a pretty cool, cooler to make a living, I reckon. Lisa: Yeah. Guy: So, so the, the next question I would ask if I was that stranger, I gotta be honest, I'd be like, well, how do you do that? Lisa: Yeah, exactly. That's what you want. This is what you want people asking. So, then you can talk about what you do a little bit more, but you don't want to sort of overwhelm them because, um, yeah, I do a lot of stuff and uh, but like yourself, I'm interested in everybody thing under the sun and I'm very interested in the mind and how the mind works. I've got history is, extreme athlete if you like. And so extreme sort of ultra marathons, expeditions, that type of thing. Um, which I've done for near on a quarter of a century. She started saying I'm retired now from that sort of a game and just using the lessons that I've learned, to coach and help others. So via, we have an online one coaching system, for example, we do sort of retreats. We do, mindset courses. Um, and we we're right into epigenetics program and just personalizing your health journey, um, and trying to get the best out of our clients and, and their athletes. So yeah, that's, and I do a lot of speaking and I've written a couple of books. I've got a third one coming out shortly and yeah. Busy, busy. Guy: Amazing. And do you know what, you know, the next question I would ask you, well, like I'm just going off on a tangent here. If I, if I had, while I'm meeting you, is what was the toughest thing you've ever done? Lisa: Agh! The toughest, the toughest race I've ever done in regards to the sporting side. Guy: Yeah. Lisa: Or there's some big tough ones here. There was a run Guy: Well they all look bloody tough, mate Lisa: Varies from really there was a rice and Niger, which is one of the poorest countries next door to Nigeria. It's a place called Niger and that sort of deep deep Sahara. So sort of halfway to Timbuktu. And, um, we had a 333 kilometer race that was uh, after there, which I've got a documentary on and um, if anyone wants to, it's in German. But, um, at the time I was living in Austria and it was down there, um, and this was only 17 runners, so it was very spread out very fast and I got food poisoning an hour into the race. It started, you're in one of the most dangerous countries on earth. There's a civil war going on the right, you're running through the Sahara and you've got food poisoning. And a week before my husband had asked for a divorce. So, I wasn't in a good friend out there anyway, so that was pretty much hell on earth. Yeah. Guy: My God. How long does it take you to run the 300 and, Lisa: well, the time limit was about 86 hours I think was, um, I actually only got to the 222 came up with all that sort of stuff going on. I, so I, I took 64 hours to do the 322. Um, and then I was in such bad shape. I was, you know, really, really ill with the food poisoning and of course. The dehydration and, that was just horrific. You know, my heart was breaking at the time and when you don't have your mind on the game as well, um, then, you know, and it was very dangerous race. Like it was run by an ex French foreign legion guy who really didn't give a shit whether we all lived or died or he was there for the money. We'd all pay quite a lot of money to go. And the privilege of doing this for me and it was so badly organized, like we would need to have food come from France. They didn't tune up. That's why we ended up eating local goat to been on the Land Rover for three days as we drove out into the desert. And that's what, you know, got me. And a couple of the other runners as well, is, was, you know, things like not enough water at the checkpoints and things, you know, so it was pretty, Guy: well, I, there's two things I've had food poisoning while I was hiking through the Himalayas. It was, it was hell, I was so trying to run, I can't even starting to comprehend that. And the second thing was, when you said running for 64 hours, are you like running nonstop or do you, Lisa: so with ultra marathons, the way it is is there are races that are, uh, Mulstock races. So the clock has going, that does not mean you cannot stop. It just means that the clock has going and the competitors aren't sleeping. So the race is on the whole time. So obviously you can stop and go, you can, you can have it, you, in that period of time, I probably had two, two hour stops at the checkpoints. Uh, what, you know, seeing a doctor there was on the thing and trying to balance out my, my blood pressure and blood sugars and all that, which was gone all up the oops and I kept passing out and stuff. So yes, you can stop but the clock is going. Um, and so you don't stop for more than, you know, a two hour period sort of thing moving. Lisa: Um, and it gets down to very quickly to a walk, you know, because uh, especially when you've got food poisoning and I'm at basically you've got to get from a to B in a certain period of time. And obviously the quicker the better if you want to win the race or get get near the pointy end. Um, but it is mostly about survival. It's a survival thing more than less having, yeah. So I had met some of them horrific, doesn't tree and vomiting and cause in, in a desert environment where you've got very limited water on your back, like, you know, to two or three key, uh, liters of water, you know, you can dive very quickly out there and if you get lost and, um, you know this, okay, so take me back. How does one end up, yeah, how does one end up in the crap like that? Lisa: Um, I grew up in New Zealand, so I've in New Zealand and from Taranaki and um, grew up in a very, very sporty family. Um, grew up with a dad who was a real hard ass and, uh, he put a lot of, a lot of pressure on us as kids to perform in sports. So, uh, he, he was, he was someone who didn't tolerate weakness. You know, if he got sick, you were in trouble, that sort of thing. And, and he's a great dad, but he was very intense, you know, very much a lot of pressure. So you wanted us to represent your country and a sport and I was the first born. Um, and I was a girl, which was a disappointment, I think to him. Thank goodness I had two younger brothers come along, uh, who shade the Lord. But if they had his way, I would've made an ESI his soldier and an old black and, uh, you know, uh, top corporate people. Lisa: So he just expected to behave a lot. And so you grew up with that sort of pressure and I always wanted to please my dad. So, um, I did gymnastics as a kid and I was, so I learned a lot of discipline and training and, but then when I got to puberty, I grew up too tall and just didn't have it. I didn't have the skills that you need for that sport and I didn't have the body shape that you need for that score. It, you know, they very much, you know, you got to be tiny, you've got gotta be, and I was tore very tall and athletic built, you know, um, and so they, they too, a lot of shelf loading because I was wrong body shape and I was constantly being told on my coaches, your fat, you're overweight, you know, which I was not by the way, but I was in regards to the size, that gym, this have to be. Lisa: Um, and so then I went, you know, years of, of, of self hatred, self-loading of not being good enough of thinking that I was the fattest, ugliest thing on the planet. Um, and you know, they, they sort of go sort of formative years can be so brutal, you know, those, those puberty years for girls especially can be really quite brutal. Um, so that really affected my self esteem on who I thought I was and how, um, you know, all of that sort of jazz. Anyways, so then I quit gymnastics and my dad was just so disappointed in me. And so then I tried it with other sports and he just said to me, Oh, you're always quit just before you're gonna get there. Right. And, and I knew I wasn't gonna make it. I didn't have it. And I got into surfing and my brothers and I all got into see a thing and they were really super talented, um, surface. Lisa: And I was totally hopeless. I tried to be really, really good at that and I tried to keep up with the guys and I just didn't have it, you know. And once again, I just keep falling short of the Mack. And so then I, when I found later on, I got into running and I was not a good runner. I'm not a good runner at all. The thing is what I did have was just fight the ability to fight through things and to keep going. And, and I, and I sort of worked out, I got together with a young Austrian guy when I was young and we were in a relationship and he was a very extreme person as well, extreme athlete. And he actually, you know, we traveled the world, we did bike tours, we tripped across places, we climb mountains, canoed places, you know, it did all that sort of adventurous stuff, which was fantastic. Lisa: And I got to see the world and I got to sort of push my limits on a daily basis. But um, he was also very abusive and very, um, there's another half man, I just replaced my father with a boyfriend basically. And but worse ways. And so when I got into, um, I got into running and I don't want to go like the whole bloody story, but I had something to prove. I had something to prove. I want it to be finally good at something. And I wasn't fast as a runner. Like you put me in a local team,K and I'm still in the middle of the pack effect. But what I found is that I could run, I could go for a long, long time. I could go for days if I had to because I hit the mental strength for years of pushing myself really had. Lisa: And I started to realize I had a skill there. And so that's how I got into ultra marathon running, not because of the talent, but because there was a very stubborn person and I did love adventure and I did love, you know, planning out what the hell I am. And I, and I learned so much, you know, in this journey. Um, I can imagine it feels like I'm almost channeling internal, maybe even pain that's going on into a very positive and very much thing, you know, so you can direct that energy into something else. Yeah. And it was all tied up with, you know, wanting to prove something to people who only ever appreciated toughness. So, um, and it came from a place from just wanting to be accepted and loved, you know, and, and the, and the early years, that was definitely the driving force, the motivating force. And that can be a very powerful force, you know? So even though it's a negative thing, if your life, it's also ma enables you to galvanize parts of you that you wouldn't normally be able to tap into, but because you're so hungry for that, like the shirt, no pressure. [inaudible] perfect. Love it. I'm going to punch that for my Instagram. Lisa: It's so true. You know? So, so I went through all hard knocks if you like. Are we through bloody bootcamp times a hundred. Um, and, and I survived and came out the other end and, um, and then I've used it too for good. You know, like we all have shit happen to us and uh, and I'm very much about, okay, I don't want to be a victim of my circumstance. I want to be, I would not let the past control who I am in the future. And that's what, for me, mental toughness is about, is about, yes, Kreps happened to us. We've been the victim of something. We've, we've, whatever's happened to us, but it's what we do with those situations and how we turn that now into an a positive going forward. And it's, it's not to say, you know, that we don't have our moments of being poor me and stuff, you know, but you can't stay in that space and you have to, you have to turn the story around and move forward into, into a positive place. Guy: Yeah. It's, it's those moments that define us. I couldn't agree more. Like you say. I mean, I think it's really interesting because the morning I've been looking and doing this work myself in terms of what I teach and do with leaded in and everything. I think we all have problems. We all have self belief issues, we all have self worth things and what to do. And it boils down to wanting to be loved and accepted. And that's just the human experience I think. And it's like, it's okay, we're all like, don't worry about it. Let's see what we can do with it. Lisa: But it's so empowering when people say that. And this is what it's really important for me to share the honest truth about stuff instead of I can come on and say, you're on this amazing athlete and I did all this crazy cool stuff, you know? And it was amazing and I'm amazing and this bullshit is it, you know, it's, it's understanding where it's come from and it's understanding the motivations behind this. Like, I mean, you even watch some of the top athletes in the world, you know, you wonder why the hell they would put themselves through that sort of stuff. Like, you know, I'm really into the Tour de France coming up in a couple of days and I'm really excited and, and I'm looking at these guys and go, why, you know, I'd love to know why. Why would you do that? Cause that's pretty freaking intense, you know? It's, um, but, and that's what interests me is really the stories behind the story, you know? Yeah, yeah, totally. It's going on people's minds and, and how we reach now, how we reach those states, perhaps perhaps doing it on, you know, out of will, not out of circumstance. You know, not out of the pressure to be something. I'll Guy: do something where we don't have to wait until the pain gets so great before we take a stance and take a step forward. And, you know, that's the way I look at it now. Why wait? Let's just keep finding the edges and moving forward from a good place where you have more control. You know, it makes a big difference. Lisa: You don't have to hit rock bottom before we try and back up out now, which we head to a real young and that was the way that we moved forward and grow. Um, and I'm a big believer in something called, you know, everyone talks about post traumatic stress, but I am a big believer in post traumatic growth though when we go through, um, had tough, horrible, tragic experiences, it's a chance to actually use it to become a strong, a bit a person to, to help other people. To be a more compassionate person is a whole lot of things that we learn out of this that can actually help us moving forward. You know, if we have the strength of minds and the strength in our character, they actually use that for good. Guy: Yeah. I'm the, I'm the, I know, let's, let's touch on the Libyan desert because I know you went through some growth and it was a pivotal point for you. Uh, I'm a, if I'm not mistaken, it was seven day walk, 250 kilometers. Yeah. So this was a expedition of four, four of us doing it. And yeah, Lisa: I was with a young man that I mentioned before who, um, we'd been together for five years at that stage. And, um, I t w we were doing this expedition, which was a really extreme, that was completely unsupported. It was also illegal. Uh, so this is on the border area between Egypt and Libya. Right. So we starting off in, in, uh, an oasis steeped down in Egypt and we had no water on route, so we had to carry our entire supplies. So we had 20 liters of water each, which was only, we were hoping to be thrown in seven, but we were planning for teen days, which means two liters of water a day is what we were rationed. And we have backpacks. I had 35 kilos. The guys have between 40 and 45 kilos. Um, and this is back in the, this is like, yeah, late nineties, so 97. Lisa: Um, and we not very much knowledge about, you know, things like electrolytes and what foods to take. And you know, this was completely stupid really. But anyway, um, and it was led by the survival expert from Yugoslavia. Elvis was his name, that was his real name. And, um, he, he was in charge in the expedition and he was the boss, right. And my boyfriend and I were, you know, the other two. And then there was another guy had gone to, and from the very start, we'd spend our five years together traveling around the world alone. And we'd never had anybody outside of us really. Um, I had no influence. I was very isolated. I was living in Australia, I didn't speak German when I first went there, I need to quite quickly. But, um, so I was very isolated and, and it was a very unhealthy relationship. Lisa: Lots of power that he had over me and controlling everything that I did and see it. And I was never good enough and I was useless and God knows what. And I'd taken all that on board over time, you know, we as you down, here's the type of go, oh, we just hammer it you for hours, you know, telling me how bloody useless and Ben crap you were. And anyway, so we started the six petition and the, the backpack was so big, I couldn't stand up by myself. The guys had to put me on my feet and you know, go forward. And we had to cover, we're trying to come a 45 kilometers a day and we had to disappear carefully out of the, so asis because it was a military bad zone, you weren't allowed to go in there. So we didn't want to be kept in jail. Lisa: Right. And this is a Islamic country, you know, very, very, very bad for us. Um, and so we just disappeared in the middle of the night into the desert with a huge backpacks and walking 45 kilometers in the, the, the immediately the boots that I had on with the heat and stuff, my feet started to swell. So the blisters were just horrific from the get goes across the Arabian desert, uh, the week before. So I was very, which was a lesser thing, but I was very tired and exhausted from the whole thing and already on the back foot and the partner that I was worth, he was wanting to do a book, uh, on the sixth edition. And so he was a photographer, right? He was photographing everything and he wanted me to help with it. And Elvis was like, yeah, you can do the photography and stuff, but we're going and we're not stopping cause we've got to make the kilometers per day and we can't wait for you to take photos basically. Lisa: And he wanted me to help him with the photos, run around, set up tripods, you know, do whatever, carry the gear and while the other guy, you know, is still moving and I just physically wasn't able to call them, you know, it was beyond my abilities. Um, I was doing everything. I could just say up right with 35 kilos on my back, cause I was about 59 and in the thing that dehydration really started to hit, you know, after a couple of days ago [inaudible] so there was a lot of tension between, um, the leader of the expedition and the boyfriend and they were fighting over, you know, what I should be doing and he was going, you can't treat her like that, you know, basically. And this was the first time that anyone had ever said to me, this is not okay. What's happening in the relationship in that, until that point, I just thought this was normal, you know? Lisa: And because my self esteem was so bad that, you know, early years that I just was just grateful that I had a boyfriend. I didn't think I'd ever, you know, I thought it was ugly and terrible. You know, how screwed up your mind can be as a teenager. Um, and so he, the way he treated me was for me normal. You know, and then there was this leader of the group going, you put the hell, you can't treat it like that. Don't talk to her like that. And then these two guys started to fight about that. And on day four when we're all like severely, I mean our tempers are very short because you're sitting an extreme just with this mess of thirst and your body's starting to break down and you're, you know, things are going in shaped and it's really dire straits basically. Cause the, the hate was horrific. Lisa: You know, it was 40 odd degrees during the day and it was minus temperatures at night and you know, we couldn't eat cause we didn't have enough saliva. You know, you're just dried so dry. And the boyfriend was also a bigger than me, needed more water. And so I'd been sharing some of my water with him. Anyway, day four, he decides the middle of the day in the burning hot sun. He's headed, guts followed us and I can stay with with them and he's gonna piss off and leave me. And that's the end of the relationship, right. Five years of relationships. So to me that all of the Libyan desert, yeah. I think to do this in the middle of this somehow, I don't know why. Anyway, so he left and of course I was, you know, devastated and worried and I didn't know whether he'd survive. It was dire, straight to heat off in the middle of the, and dessert on your own can be a death sentence. Lisa: And certainly in the dehydrated state that he was in. And I, you know, and I started, you know, crying and then I, then I realized I cannot let my emotions take over right now. I've got to compartmentalize this because I've got two other guys here looking at me going, oh my God, you know, how are we going to get through here? Um, she's, you know, in a psychological mace obviously in, and so I just had to pull myself together and really focus on the job at hand and, and forget about him and just get through because we had another, you know, three days or so ahead of us of, of really this brutal. Um, were you aware of the dangers at that point or is it just like what's actually starting to happen? Yeah, yeah. Like have my, my, you know, as central nervous system and it doesn't get enough water SAS to write down. Lisa: So on day, uh, it was the next day going to start having really bad troubles and he started, you know, passing out and like with tuna tinned around at one stage and he just wasn't behind us and he'd gone and Elvis had, you know, told me to go and pack up under the, under a cliff. I steer in the middle of the day and he went back and tried to find him and then, so then you're alone in the desert. All right, you guys gone. I can't see them anymore. They're gone. And then I fell asleep and I wake up hours later alone and they still hadn't come back. Um, and as you know, panic starts to rise then because you're, you're on your own and you're in deep trouble. And then, then I see them coming over the horizon. Um, and uh, uh, always was carrying guns in his pack. [inaudible] Lisa: was just stopping, you know, constantly in, down on the ground and then, you know, so he was indicted trouble. They eventually got back to us, we hit the wrist, then the knee move behind schedule. So we had to carry on and go fast once he'd recovered enough and were walked through the night. And then about, um, two o'clock in the morning, a fend storm hit on that night. And like when the same storm hurts, like this was a massive sane storm. But like in the movies where you see to take cover. So we, you know, got our sleeping bags out as quickly as we could and dive into them and just took cover and there's sleeping bags right up over our heads and the sense just like you're buried under the sand, there was just so much and because it all happened so quickly, I hadn't even had a chance to get the water out of my pack cause I was drinking mostly at night because then my sales could take it up. Lisa: If you have a during the day it just evaporates and now it's on. And so I didn't get my plier it and there's hours of that same storm and then a, a few hours in the early hours of the morning we had to stand up again and go again and again in a hurry and only had a little bit to drink and I'd lost my thirst at the stage. It was really quite bizarre. And then I got up, we said, we get going again after this massive snow storm. And um, then I started to break down. So I just kept passing out and the guys just turned around, picked me out, put me back on my feet and then carry on again. I'll pass out again or pick me up again and carry on. And this carried on for a number of hours. But Elvis wouldn't stop for me to get water out of the pack. Lisa: And I was in such a [inaudible], you know, out of it state that I was just like a robot moving and he wanted to get to this one place where he knew them where we were, and they knew that we were, we would survive. So he was just pushing really hard to get to that end of the bar, weedy depression so that we could see where we were and what was happening because there was no maps of the Syria except as the pilot MIPS that he'd managed to get off the u s military. So they were very, you know, distant match. So you had no idea of the terrain and it was like this. It was like, we thought what was a tabletop mountain was actually constantly climbing mountains. So anyway, we got eventually to the space. But by then I was hallucinating the rocks for turning into monsters. Lisa: I was completely on La la land. My body started to really just go the stage. And Elvis, somehow he grabbed me by the hand, he got me down the cliff face cause we had to skip down this, you know, little clubface thing down into the [inaudible] depression. And then we sit there and he said, now drink and I want you to drink your entire supply. We're going to sit here for a couple of hours and you're to, you know, recover. So then I, I got a couple of liters of water on board and cause he knew that we would get out within the next two days and that we would make it. And I'd been hoarding a little bit of extra water because I was terrified of running out of water. And so I drank all that and he said to me, no, people die with water in their backpacks because the squirreling away and get to the point where the body can't return. Lisa: And I was on that point. And so anyway, long story short, we got to the end of, we survived and I remember coming into this nixed oasis that we were coming in to amaze a military base there and we hit to get past the military base before we could get into the oasis. And once again, you know, it was a really dangerous time, you know, sneaking yet underneath guard towers with the dudes with AK 47 are standing over top of you. And I had no emotional reaction anymore to anything. You know, it's just like us just know, no fear, no nothing. I'm just remember sticking the last lonely I had in my mouth and sucking all of that, looking up at this dude and go, oh yeah, whatever. Cause you just so out of it. And anyway, we got, we, we'd got past the military camp and into the oasis and then, and then we are right, you know, and we survived. Lisa: How long does it take to recover from something like that? Uh, they took me a good couple of years, like physically because I did some major damage to my kidneys and I've still got problems with today. Um, and but more, more psychologically with the, with the relationship then it was, um, you know, a hell of a battle for the next three years to try to untangle that miss and get out of that situation. Um, so yeah, there was a turning point in my life where I said, [inaudible] no more, you know, that was for me. He'd put me in a dangerous situation one too many times. He, and, um, you know, and I, and I finally started to stand up for myself and started to go not, and this is why I got into a couple of years later, I started to, so I read it about the marathons Assad lays, which is a race and Morocco, um, a very famous ultramarathon there. Lisa: And it was touted as the toughest race on earth at the time. And I was reading this magazine and going, but I just did that in the Libyan desert with no water and you know, like two liters a day, not nine liters a day. And this rice is like similar distance, 240 kilometers. But you've got doctors, you've got 200 bloody journalists, you've got helicopters and bloody, you know, everything support that you could possibly want. You've got nine liters of water a day and you've got all your key care. You have to carry your gear, but you got water all the way through, right? And I'm going toughest rice on it. I could do that. Lisa: And so I found up for it. I've never run a marathon or anything. Um, but I signed up for this and I, and I trained hard for it and I did it. And then when I did that first race or I loved it, I was just like surrounded with people that were just positive and amazing people from all I have. The birth is 700 people in this race, right? It's a big race now. It's 1500. Um, and just the whole camp chef's like a big military operation and you're in the, you know, Moroccan Sahara. And it was just all exciting and crazy and tired, but not they have, you know, and uh, I just had this wonderful experience in the, this my self esteem started to, you know, back and then I'd say, alright, I'm addicted to this now because I want this high all the time. And so I just did one hour a marathon after the other, after the other FTL Guy: The v Two v it very different experiences, isn't it? And, and I often wonder how much potential we leave on the table in our daily lives, especially if we don't have context of something that we've experienced like that. And it's not until we have those experience, we can have a reference point in context and like you looked at the, the ultra marathon, then go on piece of cake probably you don't have to what you're been through. So having that, but where, where we hadn't gone through that then it's Lisa: the x way. And I think we'd context it gives you context because yeah, that's exactly what I, I try to express to people. But you just said it better than I say it is. It is. It is putting things in context. So now when I come up against a big challenge in life, you know, whatever the scary thing is might be a career or business thing or you know, doing something that they don't, then I think about those times and I think, Whoa, I got through those times. This is, and I'm getting up on stage to speak in front of thousands of people or something. Is it as dangerous as running across the Sahara? Is this bad? Is that time when you did this x, Y, Z in na so you can cope with it. And it just puts things in perspective for you because you know that you can overcome and they, it's the beauty of doing things outside of your comfort zone or that ski you because it gives you power as you move forward through life to be able to go, to pull on those experiences, put on that knowledge that you can overcome. Lisa: And therefore reach new heights, you know? Yeah. Guy: Talking about big, you mentioned big challenges. I know you've had big challenges on a personal level with your mum as well. I thought that would be a great place to, to segue into that cause I'd love you to share a little bit of what's been going on there. Lisa: Yeah. And this is a real great example of the learnings from, you know, ultra marathoning and doing sort of extreme stuff and how you can apply them in a real world situation. So my mum, who's been my amazing, most amazing supporter of my whole life, just, just an absolute amazing woman. He had an aneurysm three and a bit years ago. Um, and was relieved. Sorry. That's a massive bleed in the brain. Um, at the time where that happened, the doctor at the emergency for which she had a migraine and so I ignored it for six hours and um, disaster. In other words, he, he just ignored us. The pain that she was in. I didn't and I didn't know what to ask for it. And I'm sitting in the Ed and I know that my mom's in deep trouble because she never complains about anything. Lisa: And she's in screaming pain. She'd collapsed on the floor in the morning and um, I knew there was something major, but I didn't know anything about anything at that stage. Um, and I rang up a friend of mine who was a paramedic who crude for me all over the place, called Megan and she, she came up to the hospital. I said, kick ass man are, we're not getting any results. I don't know what the hell is going on, but this doctor's treating us like she's a neurotic old lady with a headache and she's not. She's got something. And Megan got up there and she took one look at mom and said, no, she's, she's having a stroke or she's having something in your brain. So she went and told us, and she's a very strong lady. She went and told this guy, get her a fricken teeth CT scan now, now. Lisa: And so he went, oh, okay. Um, got the CT scan blood right through at the Brunch, you know, massive damage done. Six, I mean the golden standard as we have something like that is to kick them into surgery within an hour to get us. Uh, um, so, um, oh crikey, we've got probably he won't. Um, we're just saying you might have to talk that but out, I can't even find it. Sorry guys. So anyway, so we now have a diagnosis. She's had an aneurism, a massive lead in the brain and it's very big trouble. And um, and then they started to move, but we had to get into a Wellington hospital, which is another three hours away cause we hit no neurological unit and she was in deep trouble. It took them 18 hours to get her down there. So we had another 12 hour wait. Lisa: Um, and then that experience taught me that take control in a situation like when you're in, uh, you know, in their medical system, don't rely on the professionals to do everything for you. And for them to know everything. You have to fight for the resources you have to fight, you know, to understand what's going on. And so I just went into deep research mode and started studying everything I possibly could about this and causing his doctors, nurses, whatever I could find. And she was an a in and out of a coma for the next three weeks. They didn't expect it, it alone, but she did live in. Then when she came out of the coma, she had nothing. She was not much over a vegetative state. She had a few words that she could add. She had no control over her, any bodily functions who her, her right side and had been paralyzed during an operation that they had done, a coiling operation. Lisa: Um, and she was also unable to like, you know, she didn't know what her hand was or that all's a daughter or you know, any of those sort of things. They, she was in hospital for three months and the rehabilitation, um, and then they said to us like, she's not going to approach this. You have to put her in a hospital and he will care institution. And she's never going to do anything again. And I just went, now that ain't happening. And I, the whole time I was studying, studying, studying and trying to find answers for brain injury and what I could do with, with her. And I came across something called hyperbaric oxygen therapy and this actually ended up being, um, a miracle for her. Um, and because I've done a lot of stuff at altitude, I understood the, what happens with when you don't have enough oxygen in the body. Lisa: Um, done some stuff in Himalayas. I'd had hypoxic brain concussions before. I was recognizing some of the symptoms that she was having as being related to not enough oxygen. And so I started to think when she was in hospital, I think she's got sleep apnea, not breathing at night. So I got an a consultant and outside consultant and went over the heads of the doctors for him and did a sleep assessment, came back severe sleep apnea. So she was stopping breathing 150 times a night and knocking off what little brain cells she had left were being knocked off. So we got her on the sleep apnea machine and she started to have little bits of improvement because she was actually getting the oxygen that she needed. And then I went, oh, oxygen, oxygen status studying and came up with hyperbaric. After three months later, I had to really fight when they said they were going to put her in a risk tome, you know, hospital level care, risk home. Lisa: And I just said, now she's, no, I'm coming. She's coming home. And they said, look, there's no way she's 24 seven around the clock here to people. Cause you know, she was quite heavy. She was overweight. I couldn't move here on my own. So she, we needed two people at all times and I just said, you won't, you won't, you won't manage it. And I came and I actually brought my books in and I threw them at the social worker and I said, this is who I fricking in and I'm taking my mum home and you'd better get used to it. And he would not give us the resources and the support we needed, which was just like caregivers in the morning. And the evening. And so I got my big brother who looks like the rock and um, we went up to the hospital and we don't to the social worker's office and we had a bit of a housing father with him and um, no one sees no to my brother either. Lisa: The end of the story, he, we got what you wanted. We got the resources that we wanted. Um, and that we needed was a budget thing. They wanted to stick her in another person's budget and not having them in their budget when they'd seen them home. It costs him money to, um, it's still within the budget and they just didn't want that. And so we administered overcome it. But it taught me a lot of things about fighting for things in the system. And when I got home, I put her in, I had a been studying this hyperbaric in trying to find a place where I could get access to. I have a very oxygen chamber and this is what they use for divers. So this is, um, we in divers have the beans, they use this to, um, um, help, help them in the pen dive excellence in. Lisa: So I knew that dive companies had them, commercial glove companies, and so I found the company that would let us use the chamber. And I went to them and I said, you know, can I use this situation, this of my research that I've done, it's very beneficial for brain injury. Would you let me use it? And they said, Yup, sign a legal waiver, get sign off from your neurosurgeon and we'll do it. We'll do it for free. Um, which was huge, absolutely huge, and I'm grateful to those people. So the stay are amazing. I did all that and the neurosurgeon signed off on it. He said, look, you've got nothing to lose. She's got nothing, so why not try? And I put her in the air. So we'd take it down to this factory sticker on a forklift sticker in this hyperbaric chamber. Everyone thought I was completely nuts. Lisa: Um, and for 33 sessions, we would be the for two hours a day. So five days a week, which was the protocol that we'd worked out, 1.5 atmospheres. And after 33 sessions, she started to wake up and come back. She started to be able to talk a little bit. She started to have little bits of memory and a flicker of intelligence behind your eyes. She started to be able to move herself just a little bit. And then I was like, right then they had to take the chamber off overseas and I lost the access to it. And so then I mortgaged the house and I bought a chamber and I, and I installed it an our home and I put them on through another couple of hundred sessions and huge thing to do. And as she started to come back to us in this process, I started to stay in one step here up here. Lisa: And the rehabilitation process, I started studying things like functional neurology and physio and nootropics and um, you know, diet changes and all, everything I could possibly do. Um, I had to teach her everything. It took me a year and a half just to get her to be able to roll over and bead. Yeah. A year and a half of trying to teach her. That took me so long for her just to be able to set because she would just flop. She had no balance, nope, no idea of where her body was in space. Um, and after 18 months she stood, uh, she was able to stand on her own for the first time without collapsing. Um, and so I had to teach you then every step of the way, there'll be new problems that I'd come up against. Things like drop foot that the mobility in your muscles and see. So she had noticed, you know, ability to stretch or move or anything. Lisa: Um, but long story short, straighten it, but years later now my mum is full back to normal. She is driving the car. She got a full driving all power of attorney back. She's an intelligent woman again as she always was, you know. Um, and you know, you wouldn't know if she's got anything wrong except your balance is a little bit, she's a bit slow with your walking and a little bit, um, which we're still working on and I, I want 110%. That's what I want. I want you to be better than she was and was perfect. I won't give up until she gets it. And those journeys taught me that everything that I went through, the, all the shit that I went through as a young woman and all the stuff that was, there was a reason because if I didn't have that ability to push and push and go beyond limits of normal endurance, if I didn't have the faith that when everybody's telling you there's no hope, there's no way I'd always been told my entire life, every race that I did, you can't do that. Lisa: It's humanly impossible. What are you doing? You know, everybody is always your family. Everyone's going, this is stupid. This is crazy. You can't do it. I was used to being tired. I couldn't do stuff. And I was used to seeing other ultramarathons do incredible things. And I knew that the human body was capable of so much more than what these local doctors were, were telling us we were capable of. And so I just had that little voice inside me saying, this is going to be the incredible comeback story you've ever heard and this is going to happen. And at once, that decision, not a, not an, you know, well, I hope it's gonna, it's kind of, and I hate to have that certainty within myself. And that's not the state that I didn't have days and moments and to spear and desperation and exhaustion and all of those things that came along the way. Lisa: But it is to say that I was just like, this is happening and I don't care what anybody says to me. This is going to happen all in, all in all the time, every day. And the, you know, the, the, the title of my book is called relentless and that is exactly what I had to be to get her back. And I got a lot of criticism for people in telling why are you putting her through such a torturous regime? I mean, I put her through an eight hour training program every day and I still do. And um, that was hearing before and she's like, you're not there yet. Where I um, and I pulled it through this whole program of, of things all the time and she's always been pushed and it's painful. It's torture sometimes for him. And people would say, just leave her alone. Lisa: Relax. What's, what's the harm in who having a piece of cake? What's the harm on who are doing, having a day off the Jeff and I, his head to be nut is absolutely relentless. So, you know, my family calls me Hitler, but I don't bloody care. You know, like I'm the fun police when I come in, in, in and I'm so disciplined with here, but I have to be like, my mom is back. Nobody argues with me anymore though. Everybody knows that what we've done is amazing. My mum is incredible and I was very, very lucky that I had once mum started to realize what had happened to her and come back to her, which took a long time. But once she did, she's as determined as I am. And if I didn't have that combination, if she had fought me all or every step of the way and say, no, I don't want to do it, I don't want, you know, then I couldn't have done it because I needed her corporation that she same tenacity and she's a very different personalities. Lisa: There's a lot. Jim Thriller, a nicer person than I am, but she's a very stubborn and very carries on, just quietly gets on with things and every single day she does that. You know, that's an incredible story. Um, you mentioned as well, there's a book coming out on that. You've written this, it does mine. This is why it's been a hell of a journey. Just writing this book now I tell you I needed to be an ultramarathon and for this one, um, yeah. So that's gonna be out in about three months. I'd love people to, you know, contact me and get on my list for when it comes out. I can let you know when it's, when it's launching. Cause this is a story. It's not, it's not about how to recover from a aneurysm or a stroke or a brain injury. It's, it's bad as well, but it's far more about the power of the, the, of hope, the power of love, the power of the human condition as we, we have potential that's just untapped. We running around working on 40% on most days and that's okay. We can't run it 100% all the time. But there are times when you want to be able to tap into that hundred percent. Guy: Totally. Totally. Yeah. Amazing. I got to, I got a couple of questions to, to wrap up the show for you. Um, one is what does your morning routine look like? Lisa: Um, I uh, forced myself out of bed. I usually want to stay in the air and keep warm. But I get out and immediately I make my bed. I then do some exercises. So I doing press ups before I've done anything precepts and some yoga. And uh, I do that to reset my cortisol levels in the morning cause I've had not surprisingly adrenal burnout. And this helps with it, my cortisol because my cortisol is through, up to low in the morning. So that helps immediately doing some exercise just activates that and it's only five minutes, but it starts the body off. Then I go and have a cold shower. I have a hot hot shower first encounter and then, and then, you know, activate everything. I hate it, but I do it. Then I go and have, um, um, a leader of vegetable juice. So this is so things like, um, I put lemon, tumeric, ginger, psyllium, husks, horrible spinach, celery, carrots, whatever's in the fridge as far as vegetables go. And I have that every day, a whole waiter over time. And then I'll sit down and work and I need to add to that meditation. I haven't gotten to that yet. Yeah, Guy: I can point you in that direction. Don't worry about that. Um, if you could have dinner with anyone tonight and from any timeframe, anywhere in the world, who do you think it would be and why? Lisa: Jeez, it's a hard one. I'd love to sit down with Nelson Mandela, you know, just to find out how the hell do you go through such an experience and come out as a positive, amazing leader when you've been in jail for 26 years, persecuted, you know, subject tore that horrific stuff and then come out and tune it into a positive. Some people. Yeah. The people that can do that, they face tonight me however they can have horrific experiences in life and make, you know, life gave them lemons and they made lemonade out of it. Yeah. Guy: Yeah. Were, that'd be great to know. He's been mentioned a few times on the show, actually the legend. Um, is there any last words you'd like our listeners to ponder on with everything we covered today? Any last words for the listeners to ponder on? Lisa: Yeah, yeah. I, I want you guys to understand that you have one chance in life that the chance that we, that we are actually here in this incarnation and the combination of cells that we are, it's something like one in 48 trillion some though worked it out. So we've all won lotto just to be here and we go around squandering our lives and being ungrateful and unhappy and having all these limiting beliefs and that's part of the human experience. But the thing is now as adults, as people in control of our own lives, it's time to take ownership of who the hell we are, what's happened to us in the past to work through that, to share that, write it out. Go and see a counselor. Go and see somebody. Get those limiting beliefs and those memories and those stories that are running in your head that are holding you back. Lisa: Start to get a grip on those and to turn them around to be in your favor for the future so that you can be free so that you can stop the limiting beliefs and move forward. Being bold, being courageous, and taking big decisions so that when you, you know, get to the end of your days, you don't look back and going, oh, I wish I'd been brave or I wish I'd done this. I wish I'd done there live. Now you never know when this is the last day. You know, and having, you know, worked with people in the last few years with disabilities and things go through life with an attitude of gratitude. This gratitude is something that I really work on every single day when I get frustrated and angry and you know, with the crap of life or someone cuts me off in traffic or I'm, you know, having a trouble with a computer and I'm starting to swear, I don't worry, but, and that thing happens every day. Lisa: You know, it's part of who we are. But I catch myself doing it and then I, I recognize that I'm doing it and then I go, hang on a minute, I'm acting like an idiot here. Um, and then I try and replace it with a gratitude. I'm grateful that I've got a damn computer that can actually run my business from home, then I can do this. And you know, it's turning the story around here and this is a constant battle. This is not something you, you went in a day, but, but, but catching yourself in those, those thoughts that aren't going to serve you. The Times when you're a hundred date times a day complaining about every damn thing under the sun, catch yourself doing it. Turn those stories around, replace it with gratitude and you'll find your life changes. Amen to that. Can everybody, um, follow you, get ahold of you, check your, I'd love to hear from anybody you want to reach out. Lisa: Um, if you want help with anything, like I do running, coaching, obviously. Um, I do, uh, mindset courses and seminars, um, which is all about, you know, mental toughness and emotional resilience. Uh, we do epigenetics. You can find me at least the Thomas E. Dot com. All our programs are on there. I'm very active on Instagram. It, um, at least at... is spelled t a m ATI, um, on Facebook, very, very active as well. I have my own podcasts. If you don't want me sharing that one as well, 100%, just so fantastic. I learn so much from other people's podcasts and guys, podcasts is definitely one you should all be listening to, but come and check out mine too. It's called pushing the limits, pushing the limits. If you just, uh, look that up or hop on my, it's on there as well. I love, that'd be follow me on the end. Guy: Yeah. Beautiful. Lisa, thank you so much for coming on, being such an open heart with it all and a little bloody inspiration. Right? And that was awesome. Lisa: It's been awesome debate. I love talking to like minded people who get it. And um, to your listeners, thanks for listening to my crazy stories. And ugh, Yea I been conflict thing called Lisa Guy: Thank you Lisa.

#82 I used to wish for my problems to go away. I dreamed of nirvana and this carefree existence. I learned that problems never really went away and that is part of being human. What did change though was my relationship to problems and how I handled them. It helped me bring new meaning to things when the chips were down. In this podcast, I share a bit of my journey when things were pretty tough, and why I'm so grateful for that period in my life. Enjoy! About Guy: He is a coach, speaker, podcaster, wellness advocate and entrepreneur. Originally co-founded natural supplement company 180 Nutrition in 2010.180 Nutrition became one of Australia's leading natural proteins was a Telstra business awards finalist and gained multiple national media exposure or their efforts. Guy also founded the no1 ranked iTunes podcast 'The Health Sessions' achieving over 2 million downloads whilst interviewing some of the worlds pioneering health experts and New York times best-selling authors. With over ten years in the health and fitness industry, Guy has also explored many facets of health including what's deemed 'alternative' and the measured effects on the body; from using meditation and neuroscience to create altered states of consciousness, shamanic rituals, cold exposure and breath work to name a few. His latest project 'Let It In' is a community based platform that helps people bridge the gap between the life they live and the life they truly want to live. Guy shares his findings via his workshops, retreats and 4 week online program, creating a space for individuals to come together as a community that supports transformation and change. Learn more about Guy: www.guylawrence.com.au Let It In Academy: www.letitin.com.au TRANSCRIPT Please note, this is an automated transcript so it is not 100% accurate. Guy: Hi, I'm Guy Lawrence and you are listening to the Guy Lawrence podcast. If you're enjoying this content and you want to find out more and join me and come further down the rabbit hole, make sure you head back to the guylawrence.com.au. Awesome guys. Enjoy the show. Guy: Welcome to the guidelines podcast. I'm your host Guy Lawrence. After building a successful health company and the number one podcast, I decided to do something deemed a little crazy. I let it go, set a new destination called the unknown and use my heart as comfort. Each week I sit down with great minds as we explore topics beyond conventional health, wealth and wisdom to inspire and ignite that passion. Within us all to create the life we truly want. So my question to you is, are you ready to let it in? Guy: Hey rockstars. Thanks for tuning into my podcast and your host Guy Lawrence and really appreciate you giving me your time today. And I thoroughly enjoyed doing the solo episode the other week. So I thought I would do another one for you today and 'cuz had a good response and it's good sometimes to try and express things, learnings, stories, teachings, you know, from my own experience and be able to pass on and hopefully inspire you who is listening on the other end to this. And I wanted to talk a little bit about context today and revealing the diamond within us 'cuz I found myself the other week I was at a friend's house and you know, we were just having great conversations, just run a workshop, actually let it in. And we found ourselves talking about the past and different times and different difficulties. And, and I was telling her some of the things that I, uh, where I was at, uh, at some stage. Guy: 'Cuz if you hadn't been to my workshop, uh, you know, I'll share, I share a few stories about my past. But, uh, there was a point in my life, uh, when I was first in Sydney, this was gone back or 2005, six, seven, 2008 all sort of through this period where I was trading the stock markets. And, um, I had this connotation in my head that I, when I become rich, uh, I will then be happy and then I can look, pursue my dreams and do what I love. And I kind of, I kind of wonder where my head thinking was looking back now. But ultimately, um, I was caught up in it and I really, um, was determined to, um, make, make some sort of myself. I think a lot of my twenties and my teenage years and, and even going into my early thirties, when I immigrated, I locked up. Guy: I lacked a lot of self belief in, in about myself and who I was. And, um, and I just couldn't sell. I couldn't, I couldn't just get it going. And I kinda thought enough was enough and I ended up borrowing some money, which wasn't the smartest of ideas, but I was determined at the time 'cuz then I never really was that good with money or never had a lot of money and I borrowed some money to trade the stock market and I thought I'm, you know, I'll be cautious, I'll do this and make it work. And at the same time I, um, I became a fitness trainer and that's my, my journey before 180 nutrition. I was working in a university, in Sydney and it was great. I landed this great job and as you know, I got to knew hundreds of awesome people and the university was like a village and because I was on such, I was so committed to the stock market, to make it work. Guy: Sometimes I'd find myself trading, you know, um, late at night, you know, and then just trying to find it, make it work. I would trade to like midnight, one in the morning cause I was on the American markets on my computer. And then I had, uh, myself getting up at five, uh, to go to work to the city to then train clients. And I was even trying to the other way round. But I'd get up at three in the morning, sometimes no joke and then, um, trade for a couple of hours and then go into work. Like I try, I was trying all these different things and I was, I was all in. I mean this cost me friendships, this cost me relationships. It cost me. I think looking back there was a lot of sacrifices and, and a lot of unhappiness come from that. And I was telling my friend as well that I had this push bike and I would say five, five days, it was my only former transport. Guy: I mean I couldn't afford a car. I didn't have my motor bike at this point. And the only way I would do it was get around on this push bike. Um, I didn't even do my shopping on this push bike. You know, take my backpack and fill up my, my food and, and cycle to the shops. And I was living in South Koji at the time and uh, I was in shared accommodation but, and I would cycle into the city every single day and it's pretty bloody hillier as well, coming out of, uh, Koji, um, into and getting into down to central Sydney. And I used to take me about half hour each way and I was doing this five days a week there and back. And then I was running classes, uh, fitness classes, boxing, TRX and spin with my forties. And I was doing them as well. So I was getting really, really fit at the time. Guy: But that was all I knew. So, so there was this, I've, I was two years in, I was finding myself racking up all this debt cause I couldn't get the trade into work even. I mean, looking back, there were so many mistakes I did, you know, never treated with borrowed money, money, can't afford to lose and affects your psychology in a big way. And I just felt myself digging this hole deeper and deeper and deeper. And I was like, how the hell am I going to get out of this? I just, and it was, and I was getting depressed and I remember, like I said, I would, I would trade to 12 one o'clock in the morning, I'd get up at 5:00 AM and in the winter, you know, regardless, it was like sometimes it was raining sideways and this might be the fourth day. And I've already racked up over 150 ks and I pushed back that week. Guy: I've already done taking multiple spin classes and boxing and I was coming, you know, and I'd be exhausted and my body would be so stiff yet I had to get the, I had to, I had to cycle into work. Like there was no, um, there was no getting out of it. And I remember, you know, it'd be freezing cold and I would just have to suck it up. I'd get wet and cycle for half hour. And by the time I got into the city, quarter of six in the morning or whatever it was, you know, I'd be soaking wet and you know, I jumped in a hot shower and then thing, next thing you know, I was trained in a client and, and there was no escape and this was raw and real. And I was earning just enough money to pay the rent and feed myself. Guy: Literally that was it. And I couldn't see a way out. I just couldn't see a way out. And it was getting harder and harder. And I remember like, I was just getting to this point and I remember I'll never forget sitting down. Um, I was part of the Surf Club as well at the time back in Koji. And I remember sitting down one day on patrol with a guy that I knew and he was similar age to me. We were in, you know, early thirties and he pulled up in his BMW, I think he worked in law and he sat there and he'd go, and he was sitting there thinking, wow, isn't life great? You know, he said, now, you know, we know what we want, we know where we go in. We cashed up and I said, life's just isn't just a great place to be. You know, and I remember sitting there feeling so small, so just so worth lot. Guy: Um, and I'm just speaking from the heart year and I didn't even know how to express this at the time and thinking, oh my God, here I am in debt. I don't know what I'm doing. I've got a push bike that's managing just to hold itself together. I can barely pay my rent, my food, and I'm trading the whole, I can't get out of this debt. And it was just sucked. It really sucked. And the only thing I could do was keep going. I could feel the only thing I could do was keep going. And I've shared this story with you because many years later, you know, my life's very different now. Like, uh, you know, not a few years later, 180 nutrition was born and, and, and, uh, you know, where we created a natural supplement and natural protein. And, and that went on and did well. And within three and a half years, it was turning over millions of dollars. Guy: And it was, you know, it was just this really random transition. And, but at the time when I was on that push bike, I started listening to all the self help stuff I could muster myself. I listened to Tony Robbins cycling into work. I would, I would listen to Deepak Chopra, I would listen to echo tol, I'd listen to Wayne Dyer. Um, and I started to find, I started to let go of my, there were many others incidences and I won't go into it today. I'll keep referring to the episode, but I really started to let go and, and find, except where I was at. And, and it was from that acceptance. And then I started to change lanes, if you like, I could start to see light at the end of the tunnel. And I just kept going. I like, my ships were burnt, this was my situation and I had to accept it. Guy: And even though, you know, for few years, my, my situation didn't change. Initially I changed and I could feel it and I could feel myself changing within. And that energy and that cultivation started to just grow and grow. And, and it really taught me to be grateful for many things. And that's where my first gratitude practice really started to come back into kind of come and take true meaning. And it started to reveal the diamond within me, like the, the true self. And those years, I look back now and I'm forever grateful for them. And I remember having the conversation saying that there was something rural, unreal about those years for me. And I, I learned to enjoy the rain being soaking wet where I found myself literally laughing and smiling. I'd done a 12 hour shift at the university and I'd come out, it'd be nine o'clock at night, they'd be pissing down the rain. Guy: It would be cold. And I've just like game on, you know, and I could start to really embrace the, the, the wrongness of the elements and everything. And I would look at people at the bus stop and sitting on the bus and kind of looked like in this time, warped, I don't know, Coma, you know? Uh, and I was like, wow, this is an hour. I was like breathing in life. The essence of it, it's really a, I'm sure it's hard to explain sometimes, but that's really felt like an, and then I started to find the joy in, in the, in even the simplest things. And it taught me so much. And I think without that experience, if the, the good things that have come along later and since, um, if I hadn't had that, I wouldn't have had context. I wouldn't have had the, the ability to look at things that when they do come now in a different way with perspective and I guess wisdom from some of the things that have happened in my life because I'm sure you agree. Guy: We all have fears. We all have things that can be difficult. We all have it tough and some have a tougher than others, but ultimately it's still as still owe bodies. We all feel fear the same way. We all feel lack the same where we all feel self Unwerth the same way. It's just our circumstances are different triggering those emotions and feelings that are happening for us. And I wonder to put this, share the story with you today because I wanted to know, let you know that it's this, how can I say it? There's so much, there's so many lessons to be learned. There are so many things and if we can change the meaning behind the stories that are going on within our minds, the emotions and the feelings and what's happening and we can start to shift that and put a different meaning to it or in the same situation. Guy: I think that's where true transformation can start to lie. That's where true change can start to lie. And that's when I really started to investigate in the mind, body and the self and why I'm so passionate about this work today and why I'm so passionate about let it in and run in retreats and running workshops. And I have a podcast, like I can't tell you how much energy it takes goes just to create podcasts week after week, month after month, and put this free content out there for you. But, but from all lists, you know, I believe in the law of reciprocity, like by that, by the fact of sharing and an open and being able to share the things I learned hopefully will inspire you into action and inspire you to start to take change. And maybe start to realize that there's context and you can create different meaning from the situations that we you're in or I'm in or whatever that might be. Guy: And what really amazed me is that once you look at this work, now I realize that I'd been thinking a certain way, feeling a certain way, seeing the world a certain way for so long. And I've trained my nervous system to behave a certain way or the autonomic nervous system. And without getting too technical, you know, you can retrain that and you can start to, and, and the, the nervous system and the f is the filter between how you perceive the world. And the directly, the signals you send your body. And this is why I get so excited and I'm recording this. We will actually close to Bordeaux August retreats, which looked to be bought, sold out, which is phenomenal. And when we start to dive in deeper with this work where we're able to get people to really tap in to that nervous system and start to send it a different signal, which is amazing, which sends the body a different signal and we can start to release quite a lot of emotional memory that the body holds. Guy: Like it's fascinating stuff. And then from that we start to clean house. We started cleaning the body, you know, we create a bit of chaos in there. We're pulling the furniture apart, we moving things around with Dustin with throwing things out we don't want anymore. And within that chaos we can then start to put it all back together. But you know, it's a spring clean. It's a very different fields, very different environment. We create space within us to let in the new to layer in the things that we want to move toward. And it's brilliant. And for me now it's like an honor because I learned this work and it's, it's pivotal and it's made such an impact on my life and why I'm so passionate about it. And now I get to help other people that want to learn this stuff. I mean, it's incredible. Guy: Once you start delving in, if you listen to my podcasts on a regular basis, you probably, you know, been listening to the guys I've had talking about quantum physics and how we connect beyond space and time and energetically we can start to move these things around and influence that nervous system. I mean within my leaded in membership, the online stuff, we meet up on zoom and I'm teaching people how to connect and we're having, you know, we're having experiences from meditation, from people in their own living room that might take people years to experience that. And it's just a beautiful thing. And I shared all with this with you because no matter where you're at, that is just your current situation. Reality is, doesn't always have to be like that. And I truly firmly believe if you want to create true transformation and change in your life, then this work learning and understanding this work will have impact to help you navigate that direction. Guy: But like anything that we want in life, it doesn't come easy. It takes constant consistent work. You know, it's just one step at a time, day by day, week by week, you chip away, you learn in to create change. We have to learn new skills, we have to learn new things and we have to start letting go over the things that don't serve us anymore. And for me, or taking your back all the way back to that story, for me to walk away from that stock trading was huge, you know, at the time. But I was, I was willing to let it go. I'd put three years into it and I realized I wasn't going to succeed at it. I was going to fail. And for a guy that was really hard and to walk away 30 grand down and I'd never even seen 30 grand as well and just accepted. Guy: But by me letting go, something that I knew wasn't right because it wasn't aligned with my heart in my head. I've been telling myself so many things, but I wasn't aligned in my heart. And it wasn't until my heart and my head were congruent until they were aligned. Was I able to start moving forward in the world and carving my future off for the way I wanted it to go. You know? And it didn't get easier. It still doesn't get easier to this day. But the tools that I've learned and the awareness I have around it, I've developed. So I don't even wish my problems away anymore. All I, all I understand now is that I'm always going to have problems. I'm always going to have challenges. And it's how I equip myself to deal with them. And it's teachable and it's doable. And if you're listening to this and you're sitting on the fence and you're thinking, should I ever go with this and or what do I do? Guy: Ask yourself this. Where will you be six months from now, one year from now, two years from now? If you continue doing the same things that you're doing now, they might be some great things. And you know, who am I to judge? I don't know. But I asked myself that and it keeps me sharp and it keeps me honest and it keeps me willing to try new things and lean in and step into the unknown. So that's what context does. So this leaving message, partly message for you is, you know, whatever's going on in your life, what can you learn from it? How can you apply different meaning to it? And how can you get excited by your future and you know it's gonna be okay. Cause there's always worked out. It always has. It always will. It has for me. But I think the key is, is this to start tapping into that heart space more and allowing that and literally start to let it in. Guy: You know, if you want to learn more about what I'm doing, if you want to experience some of the things I'm talking about, I want to do it. I got plenty going on. We've got the retreats. Um, we've got, uh, the online program stuff. And don't even let the online programs stuff put you off guys. Trust me. You will really start to feel it in a, it's a, it's pretty incredible. I'm very proud of it. And uh, yeah, I got the workshops as well. So it's all there. And if it's the first time you ever listening to anything and you haven't even tried it yet, um, gives the, um, the free meditation I give away GL, start teaching your tap into the heart. It's the best. It's a great start. Get in the habit of that. Um, and that's all back@guylawrence.com. Dot. EU. Check it all out. Guy: Take action. You know, if you're listening to this now, pause, grab the free meditation. Like take action. Like philosophy will only get you so far. You have to start taking the steps, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Anyway, let me know what you think of this podcast. Uh, hit me up on Instagram. Guy Hates Lawrence. Uh, if you're enjoying the solar podcast, I really appreciate it cause uh, I like I doing this, my eyes are closed right now. I hold my awareness in my chest and my heart as I speak and just allow it to come out and it's Kinda cool. Um, yeah. So hope you enjoyed. Uh, I've got some awesome guests coming up soon as always, and if we're enjoying the show, yeah, let me know. Share it, whatever it is, Guy: how help you get it out there. Always greatly appreciated. Anyway, let's love from me. Have an awesome week and I'll speak to you soon.

#81 My awesome guest this week is Nicki Jane Stanton. She's been on quite a journey. From submersing herself in the self-help industry forever ten years, she still found herself depressed and lonely. Three years ago she then went to a Dr Joe Dispenza workshop where she started practicing meditation. From then she started to truly practice the art of meditation and is now experiencing more joy, happiness, love, and appreciation than ever. She joined Let It In last year and we catch up to chat about her journey. Enjoy! Learn more about our 3 day retreat here. www.letitin.com.au/retreat Learn more about Guy: www.guylawrence.com.au Let It In Academy: www.letitin.com.au

#80 It's been a while since I did a solo podcast. This list of 12 has been swirling around my head for quite a while. I hope you find it helpful :) Enjoy! About Guy: He is a coach, speaker, podcaster, wellness advocate and entrepreneur. Originally co-founded natural supplement company 180 Nutrition in 2010.180 Nutrition became one of Australia's leading natural proteins was a Telstra business awards finalist and gained multiple national media exposure or their efforts. Guy also founded the no1 ranked iTunes podcast 'The Health Sessions' achieving over 2 million downloads whilst interviewing some of the worlds pioneering health experts and New York times best-selling authors. With over ten years in the health and fitness industry, Guy has also explored many facets of health including what's deemed 'alternative' and the measured effects on the body; from using meditation and neuroscience to create altered states of consciousness, shamanic rituals, cold exposure and breath work to name a few. His latest project 'Let It In' is a community based platform that helps people bridge the gap between the life they live and the life they truly want to live. Guy shares his findings via his workshops, retreats and 4 week online program, creating a space for individuals to come together as a community that supports transformation and change. Learn more about Guy: www.guylawrence.com.au Let It In Academy: www.letitin.com.au TRANSCRIPT Please note, this is an automated transcript so it is not 100% accurate. Guy: Welcome to the guidelines podcast. I'm your host Guy Lawrence. After building a successful health company and the number one podcast, I decided to do something deemed a little crazy. I let it go, set a new destination called the unknown and use my heart as it come to us. Each week I sit down with great minds as we explore topics beyond conventional health, wealth and wisdom to inspire and ignite the passion that's within us all to create the life for clue one. So my question to you is, are you ready to let it in? Hey guys and girls, this is a guy you, of course you're hosting when you're listening to the Guy Lawrence podcast where I have awesome conversations that go well beyond conventional house wealth and wisdom to inspire change in our lives. And I'm having an awesome conversation with myself today, but kind of cause obviously you on the other end of listening and hopefully, um, you be glad that you listened to this episode because, um, I was actually struggling to name it to be honest with you. Guy: It's a solo podcast as you can tell. And, uh, I've been, there's been whizzing around my brain for literally weeks, if not months. That's the way my mind works. And I had a no pattern pen and I ended up writing down 12 pivotal points and I was kind of like, oh, where are these points mean? And the things that I've found have a huge impact on me. The like the staples in my diet if you like, but in life, um, you know, you go to things that you kind of use and, and I find myself talking a lot about these, um, with people. So I thought I would put them into a podcast and whether you could call it the 12 steps to freedom, you know, uh, my 12 steps, not the 12 steps. These are just my 12 steps or, you know, another way of looking at it is there are things that are served me like that, that give me energy and make me feel energized to be my best version of myself... Read more...

#79 My lovely guest this week is Ariel Garten, the founder of Muse, the brain sensing headband Not only is she the founder of Muse, but she is also a neuroscientist, innovator, and entrepreneur. We dive into her challenges with 'the work', and also how she overcomes them with her own practices and make such an impact in the world. And of course, get into how Muse came about and how it can help you with your meditation practice too. Enjoy! About Ariel: Ariel Garten is a neuroscientist, innovator, and entrepreneur whose driving purpose is to empower and help others overcome mental obstacles in order to live healthy, happy lives and reach their maximum potential. Garten is one of the Founders of InteraXon, the makers of Muse: the brain sensing headband. Muse is the award-winning wearable technology that assists and trains meditation and mindfulness. Before founding InteraXon, Ariel was not only trained as a neuroscientist and psychotherapist, but also started her own international clothing line while she worked in labs researching Parkinson's disease and hippocampal neurogenesis. Her creativity and entrepreneurial drive, combined with her fascination with the brain, lead her to bring together two like minded friends and together they founded InteraXon, a Silicon Valley backed startup that allowed people to control computers with their minds, the technology that sparked the creation of Muse. Learn more about Ariel Garten: www.arielgarten.com Learn more about Guy: www.guylawrence.com.au Let It In Academy: www.letitin.com.au

#78 This week I'm very excited to be bringing you my wife Lynda Griparic to my show. I might be biased, but Lynda is amazing at what she does and has been a huge influence on me and my lifestyle when it comes to this topic. I wanted to bring her wisdom onto the show and discuss how the gut can affect our overall wellbeing and our mood. We also dive into telltale signs if your gut health is right, what you can do about and some of the things she does on a daily basis. Enjoy. About Lynda: Lynda Griparic is a Naturopath, Nutritionist, Writer and Yoga teacher with close to 20 years of experience in the health industry. Lynda specialises in digestive health, namely SIBO and constipation. She has extensive experience in running healthy, effective and sustainable bowel care programs and has expertise in investigating and treating the underlying causes of gut disturbance. Lynda has an intense interest in poo and she's also the creator of the delicious BetterMe Tea a tea designed to promote improved gut health and digestion - assisting those who struggle with constipation and sluggish bowel movements to go to the bathroom with ease. Learn more about Lynda Griparic: www.lyndagriparic.com Better Me Tea Learn more about Guy: www.guylawrence.com.au Let It In Academy: www.letitin.com.au