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Jun 3, 2025 • 49min

Dr. Roger Walsh | Attuning to Our Inner Wisdom

Can humanity’s ethical and spiritual maturity catch up to our technological progress? Or will this gap in development lead to catastrophe? To explore our collective path forward, Thomas sits down with Dr. Roger Walsh, a Professor of Psychiatry, Philosophy, and Anthropology, and the host of the Deep Transformation podcast. Their conversation mines the depths of our inner worlds, finding hope in the idea that kindness, generosity, and altruism are more inherent and natural to humans than selfishness, separateness, and over-consumption. Our civilization is at risk, but man-made crises can be unmade by deep collective learning, cultivating inner awareness, embracing ethical living, and integrating historical trauma. Thomas and Dr. Walsh draw insights from global wisdom traditions and share contemplative practices and practical steps that we can take to help humanity “level-up” our maturity and spiritual consciousness.   ✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/MZsHpFKAdvI Video episodes are posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Join Thomas on June 8 for free, LIVE event: Spiritual Grounding in Uncertain Times Fear is a natural response to many things we encounter in life; however, fear doesn't have to overwhelm us.  In this free global event, Thomas will share how we can meet fear not as a problem to fix or manage, but as a doorway to growth, resilience, and deeper connection. Learn more and sign up for free here: 👉 https://www.mysticcafeonline.com/grounding   ✨ Dr. Roger Walsh is a professor of psychiatry at the University of California, a meditation student and researcher, a Tibetan Buddhist Lama, author of books such as Essential Spirituality: The Seven Central Practices, and cohost of the podcast Deep Transformation: Self-Society-Spirit, which is ranked in the top 2% of the world's podcasts. Connect with Dr. Walsh here: 👉  https://www.drrogerwalsh.com    👉  https://www.deeptransformation.io    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com   Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9
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May 27, 2025 • 46min

Kosha Joubert | Global Social Witnessing

What if there was a practice that helped us collectively witness and digest world events without becoming overwhelmed, indifferent, or numb? What if this practice could lead to new levels of collective healing? Thomas sits down with Kosha Joubert to discuss this revolutionary practice, called Global Social Witnessing. Kosha is the CEO of the Pocket Project, a non-profit organization co-founded by Thomas that’s dedicated to growing a culture of trauma-informed care. Global Social Witnessing addresses our current lack of societal rituals for processing traumatic world events. It offers a way to move beyond individual overwhelm to collectively face challenges with greater presence, compassion, and agency for positive change. It joins people across borders and cultures to co-regulate and bring an embodied awareness to our collective nervous system. And you can do it from the comfort of your own home! Kosha also shares details about the Pocket Project’s upcoming Global Social Witnessing Facilitator Training, which you can learn more about here: https://pocketproject.org/global-social-witnessing-training/?ref=86   Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/H0VXsO9wJj0   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨Kosha Anja Joubert serves as CEO of the Pocket Project, dedicated to growing a culture of trauma-informed care. Kosha has worked extensively in the fields of systems regeneration, intercultural collaboration, and trauma-informed leadership. She grew up in South Africa under Apartheid and has been dedicated to transformational edgework ever since. She has authored several books and received the Dadi Janki Award (2017) for engaging spirituality in life and work and the One World Award (2020) for building the Global Ecovillage Network to a worldwide movement reaching out to over 6000 communities on all continents. Connect with Kosha and The Pocket Project here:  👉 https://pocketproject.org/   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com   Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9
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May 22, 2025 • 16min

BONUS: Connecting to the Heart

In this teaching, Thomas Hubl focuses on the heart as not just a physical organ but a central hub for emotional maturity, spiritual development, mind-body integration, and connection to universal intelligence. He offers a guided contemplative practice to lead you into the depth of your heart space so that you can listen deeper to your own truths, integrate mind and body, become a deeper listener for others, and better regulate your nervous system.   Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/KJFL1IDFxvE Video episodes are posted at 8am LA/ 11am NY   ✨ There's still time to enroll in Thomas' new course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant Life Through guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. Expert guest teachers include Dr. Terry Real, Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay.  📅 The course begins on May 21, 2025. Learn more here: 👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com   Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
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May 20, 2025 • 54min

Lama Rod Owens | Collective Liberation and Spiritual Healing

Can we metabolize our pain to create an entry point into liberation? How can spirituality support us in this process? This week, Thomas sits down with Buddhist minister, author, and activist Lama Rod Owens to share visions for collective liberation, the importance of reconnecting with Indigenous worldviews, sacred ecology, and unseen worlds, and strategies to overcome hopelessness and despair as we work to dismantle harmful systems. They explore the intersection of individual and collective trauma, the connection between spiritual awakening and social justice, and the importance of meeting suffering and discomfort with kindness and presence instead of bypassing it for short-term relief. It’s a wide-ranging and inspiring conversation that bridges the mystical and the practical, and we hope you’ll tune in. Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/l1tRGQPRy3U   ✨ Join Thomas’ upcoming live course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant Life Through guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. Expert guest teachers include Dr. Terry Real, Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay. 📅 The course begins on May 21, 2025. Learn more and enroll here: 👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ Lama Rod Owens is a Black Buddhist Southern Queen and international influencer with a Master of Divinity degree in Buddhist Studies from Harvard Divinity School. He has over 11 years teaching experience, and is an author of books like Love and Rage: The Path of Liberation through Anger and Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love and Liberation, which he co-authored. His teachings focus on freedom and radical self-care. Known for his engaging and inclusive approach, he has been featured by various national and international media outlets. Connect with Lama Rod here: 👉 https://www.lamarod.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com   Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9  
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May 13, 2025 • 55min

Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald | Finding Joy After Pain

Trauma makes it difficult to feel joy, but you CAN experience it again, even if you’re in the early stages of your healing journey. This week, Thomas sits down with trauma researcher, life coach, and the author of Unbroken and The Joy Reset, Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald, to redefine joy, examine how trauma steals it from us, and explore how we can learn to let it into our lives again. Dr. McDonald has identified six “thieves of joy”—coping mechanisms that helped us to survive trauma and hardship, but now make it difficult to relax, let go, and feel the full spectrum of emotions. She shares strategies to release guilt, shame, and hypervigilance and allow good things to happen without bracing for the worst. Dr. McDonald’s newest book, The Joy Reset: Six Ways Trauma Steals Happiness and How to Win it Back, is out now wherever books are sold.    Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/3c7zxjbiNXY   ✨ Join Thomas’ upcoming live course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant Life Through guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. Expert guest teachers include Dr. Terry Real, Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay. 📅 The course begins on May 21, 2025. Learn more and enroll here: 👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    ✨ MaryCatherine McDonald, PhD, is a research professor and life coach who specializes in the psychology of trauma, stress, and resilience. She has been researching, lecturing, and publishing on the neuroscience, psychology, and lived experience of trauma and stress for over a decade. She is passionate about destigmatizing trauma, stress, and mental health issues and reframing our understanding of trauma. Connect with her here: 👉 https://alchemycoaching.life   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com   Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9  
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May 6, 2025 • 51min

Resilient Presence

Dive into the transformative power of resilient presence in navigating today's uncertainties. Discover how emotional regulation and community support play crucial roles in enhancing resilience. Explore calming grounding practices that promote stability amid stress and the importance of collective healing. Thomas emphasizes the interconnectedness of well-being and invites you to embrace shared growth through community experiences. It's all about fostering a holistic approach to wellness, empowering individuals to create a ripple effect of positivity.
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Apr 29, 2025 • 55min

Dr. Terry Real | Healing Intergenerational Trauma Through Our Relationships

Thomas is joined by Terry Real, an acclaimed family therapist, bestselling author, and the founder of The Relational Life Institute. Terry shares insights from his years of work with couples and families struggling to repair their relationships, and how practicing what he calls “Relational Mindfulness” is a game-changer for anyone whose past traumas are negatively impacting their current connections. As Terry explains, the work of relationships is not day-by-day; it’s moment-to-moment. And in each challenging moment, we have a choice: give in to our knee-jerk reactions and maladaptive trauma responses, or take a step back so that a more mature part of ourselves can emerge.  When we choose presence, collaboration, and interdependence over reactivity, conflict, and toxic individualism, we don’t just heal ourselves and our relationships—we stop the flow of intergenerational trauma in its tracks, and this dynamic shift becomes a part of our legacy.    Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/mKRZpZ_mQa8   ✨ Enrollment is open for Thomas’ upcoming live course - Whole-Being Wellness: Aligning Mind, Body, and Spirit for a Vibrant Life Learn from Thomas and expert guest teachers, including today's Guest, Dr. Terry Real, as well as Dr. Uma Naidoo, Iya Affo, and Ross Gay. Through guided practices, reflection tools, and community learning, we will develop new ways to care for ourselves and one another in a time when true well-being is needed more than ever. 📅 The course begins on May 21, 2025. Learn more and enroll here: 👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com   Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Dr. Terry Real has been a practicing family therapist for more than thirty years, and his work has been featured on many major news outlets, TV shows, and in numerous academic publications. His most recent book Us: Getting Past You & Me to Build a More Loving Relationship, is a New York Times Bestseller. Terry founded the Relational Life Institute (RLI), which is dedicated to teaching the general public how to live relational lives and to teaching mental health professionals the practice of Relational Life Therapy. Connect with Dr. Real here: 👉 https://terryreal.com   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com
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Apr 22, 2025 • 53min

Debbie Levin | Green Media and Personal Environmentalism

Thomas is joined by Debbie Levin, CEO of the Environmental Media Association, to discuss the role of media in shaping sustainability consciousness and how to effectively communicate about environmental issues. Debbie shares the importance of being gracious and non-judgmental when sharing knowledge on how to live a healthy, clean, and sustainable life. She explains how her organization has successfully leveraged celebrities’ platforms to spread awareness on crucial environmental issues and how the “Emma Green Seal” has influenced TV and movie productions to operate more sustainably. She and Thomas also explore the impact of the LA fires on both the entertainment industry and the larger climate change dialogue. This conversation covers a range of pressing environmental issues, but ultimately concludes on a note of hopefulness–that we all want our families and loved ones to be safe and healthy, and we can make a difference by starting from that common ground. Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/mwrY4IqkiFE   ✨ Join a free, live event - Resilient Presence: Cultivating Inner Strength & Connection In Challenging Times 📅 April 27, 2025 This free online gathering with Thomas is an opportunity to join a global community in practice and exploration, as we cultivate the inner resilience needed to meet life’s challenges with greater presence, clarity, and care.  Sign up for free here: 👉 https://www.whole-beingwellness.com/free-event   Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Debbie Levin is the CEO of the Environmental Media Association (EMA), where she has spent over two decades leveraging the power of entertainment to drive environmental change. Under her leadership, EMA has launched initiatives like the EMA Green Seal for sustainable productions and EMA IMPACT, establishing the organization as a leading voice in sustainability within the entertainment industry. Learn more about Debbie's work here:  👉 https://www.green4ema.org   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  
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Apr 17, 2025 • 15min

BONUS: Humanity's Healing Orchestra

Thomas explores the qualities of leadership and collaboration that are needed to heal collective trauma. He shares how each of us plays a unique role—like musicians in an orchestra—contributing our distinct talents to a larger symphony of healing and transformation. Thomas addresses the impact of fear-based systems rooted in hierarchical power and advocates for shifting toward creative, relational models of leadership.  He stresses the importance of self-reflection, community, and attuning to the self-healing mechanism of life as pathways to building a collective healing movement. Watch the video version of the episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/UJ6d-l6y9Xc   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl  
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Apr 15, 2025 • 59min

Bayo Akomolafe, PhD | Bold Frontiers of Spiritual Healing

Thomas Hübl sits down with celebrated speaker, posthumanist thinker, poet, teacher, and author Bayo Akomolafe to explore the leading edges of spiritual thinking and human identity. Bayo is a deeply experimental thinker, informed by the African cosmologies of the Yoruba and Igbo traditions. He leads an exploration into a new paradigm of healing that de-centers the individual to focus on the village, on the communal. He and Thomas discuss how modernity, especially in Western cultures, creates a false dichotomy between spirituality and science, pathologizes behavior that should instead be integrated, and offers a reductive, motionless view of the self. Bayo offers a different perspective, one in which the self or the psyche is always moving in an interconnected dance with our lineages, with evolution, and with the mysteries of the material realm. Bayo also explores how modern spiritual models contribute to systems of oppression, stressing the importance of spaciousness, non-conformity, and relationality in spiritual thinking and practice.   Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/2jSTAWp6Wsc   Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9   ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com    Bayo Akomolafe is a widely celebrated international speaker, posthumanist thinker, poet, teacher, public intellectual, essayist, and author of books including These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity’s Search for Home and We Will Tell our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak. Bayo is the founder of The Emergence Network and host of the online post-activist course, ‘We Will Dance with Mountains’. He currently lectures at Pacifica Graduate Institute, California, and the University of Vermont, Burlington, Vermont.  Connect with Bayo here:  👉 https://bayoakomolafe.net   Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl   ✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/    ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com

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