Distance To Empty

Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes
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Apr 8, 2024 • 1h 9min

The Speed Project w/ Evan Birch

Ketl Mountain Apparal Free to Run Fundraiser Ultrarunner, Evan Birch, shares his journey in the sport and his experience in the Speed Project race. He discusses how running became more than just a physical challenge for him and how it helped him cope with his struggles with mental health. Evan also talks about his involvement with Bigger Than the Trail, an organization that provides mental health support to the endurance community. He then dives into the details of the Speed Project, an unsanctioned race from LA to Vegas, and how he prepared for it physically and logistically. He highlights the unique aspects of the race, including the choose-your-own-adventure route and the importance of having the right crew. Evan Birch shares his experience running the Speed Project, a 344-mile unsanctioned race from Los Angeles to Las Vegas. He discusses the logistics of the race, including how he and his crew navigated the route and managed rest breaks. Birch also talks about the challenges he faced during the race, such as dealing with injuries and staying motivated. He shares his nutrition strategy, which included electrolytes and real food, and emphasizes the importance of being adaptable and eating for fuel rather than preference. Birch also reflects on the mental aspect of the race and the need to focus on the progress made rather than the distance left to go. He provides insights into the unique culture of the Speed Project and offers advice for those interested in participating in the race. Birch concludes by discussing his future plans, including upcoming races and a documentary about his Speed Project experience. Takeaways Running can be a powerful tool for coping with mental health struggles and finding joy and self-worth. Bigger Than the Trail provides mental health support to the endurance community, offering virtual care for those who may not have access to it. The Speed Project is an unsanctioned race from LA to Vegas, with a choose-your-own-adventure route and no official start or finish line. Preparing for the Speed Project involves both physical training and logistical planning, including choosing the right route and assembling a supportive crew. The race experience is unique, with the crew moving with the runner and the opportunity to problem-solve and make choices along the way. The Speed Project is a 344-mile unsanctioned race from Los Angeles to Las Vegas that requires careful planning and navigation. Managing rest breaks and nutrition is crucial during the race, and being adaptable and eating for fuel rather than preference is important. Staying motivated and focusing on the progress made rather than the distance left to go is key to completing the race. The Speed Project has a unique culture of camaraderie and support among participants. To participate in the Speed Project, one must have a compelling story and demonstrate what they can bring to the community. Evan Birch's future plans include participating in the BC Backyard Ultra, Tahoe 200, and Divide 200 races.
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Apr 1, 2024 • 59min

Cocodona 250 & Women in Ultrarunning w/ Rachel Bambrick

Melanie's Tahoe 200 Free to Run fundraiser! Rachel Bambrick, an ultra runner and occupational therapist, shares her journey into the world of ultra running and her experience in the Cocodona 250 race. She discusses the challenges and memorable moments she encountered during the race, highlighting the importance of finding moments of joy and lightness. Rachel also emphasizes the role of community in ultra running and the support she received from fellow runners. She defines mental toughness as finding strength through softness and problem-solving, and shares how she incorporates these techniques into her training. Lastly, Rachel introduces the Women in Ultra Running group, which aims to welcome more women into the sport of ultra running. Rachel Bambrick discusses the low representation of women in ultra running and the need to create a more inclusive and welcoming space for women in the sport. She shares her own experiences and observations, highlighting the impact of gender stereotypes and marketing strategies on women's participation. Rachel also talks about her initiative, Women in Ultra Running, which aims to provide a safe space for women to learn, connect, and participate in the sport. She suggests steps that the ultrarunning community can take to encourage more women to participate, such as diversifying race marketing and reserving lottery entries for underrepresented groups. Rachel also discusses her upcoming race, the Divide 200, and her journey as a coach using TrainingPeaks. Takeaways Find moments of joy and lightness during ultra races to counterbalance the inevitable low moments. Community plays a crucial role in ultra running, providing support, knowledge sharing, and camaraderie. Mental toughness can be defined as finding strength through softness and problem-solving. Incorporate techniques of mental toughness into training to better handle challenges during races. The Women in Ultra Running group aims to welcome more women into the sport of ultra running. The representation of women in ultra running is still low, despite their potential for success in the sport. Gender stereotypes and marketing strategies can discourage women from participating in ultra races. Creating a safe and inclusive space for women in ultra running can help increase their participation. Steps to encourage more women to participate include diversifying race marketing and reserving lottery entries for underrepresented groups.
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Mar 25, 2024 • 1h 11min

Phil Lowry - The Triple Triple Crown

In this conversation, Phil discusses his journey into ultra running and the evolution of the sport. He shares how he got interested in ultra running and the influence of social media on the community. Phil also talks about the challenges and changes in 200-mile races and the importance of sleep in ultra running. He then dives into the Triple Crown challenge and reveals his favorite race, Bigfoot. In this conversation, Phil shares his takeaways from the Triple Crown and 200-mile races, emphasizing the importance of resilience and adaptability. He discusses the highlights and lowlights of his races, including memorable moments with his wife. Phil also talks about his training strategy and tactics, as well as his role as the GPS Director for Destination Trail. He reflects on the impact of his wife's cancer diagnosis on their perspective and dedication to the sport. Finally, Phil shares his dream race or route and his favorite piece of gear. Takeaways Resilience and adaptability are key in ultra-running, especially in challenging races like the Triple Crown and 200-milers. Experience and learning from past races are valuable in improving performance and avoiding common mistakes. Family support and shared experiences during races can create meaningful and memorable moments. Training strategies may vary, but focusing on strength, hiking, and rehabilitation can be effective for long-distance races.
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Mar 23, 2024 • 33min

Bonus Episode w/ Helgi Olafson & Ecopath Endurance

https://ecopathendurance.com/ Helgi Olafson, a super yacht chef and ultra-runner, shares his experiences and challenges in completing 200-mile races while living with ankylosing spondylitis (AS). He has completed 14 200-mile races and has never DNF'd. Helgi's journey includes biking between races and overcoming physical and logistical challenges. He emphasizes the importance of mental preparation and never giving up, sharing personal stories of pushing through pain and fatigue. Helgi also discusses his career as a super yacht chef and how he manages his training schedule while working on yachts. In this conversation, Helgi Olafson discusses his creation of Ecopath Endurance, a community-based endurance event series. He explains the concept of Capture the Flags, a timed format that offers a team environment and gamified experience. Mental preparation and a never-give-up attitude are crucial in completing 200-mile races. Living with ankylosing spondylitis (AS) requires staying active and finding ways to manage pain and fatigue. Challenges and setbacks can be opportunities for growth and self-discovery. Balancing a demanding career, such as being a super yacht chef, with training for endurance events requires careful planning and flexibility. Ecopath Endurance offers a team environment and community-based adventures for runners. Capture the Flags is a timed format that combines individual and team efforts in a gamified experience. The Mighty Gallatin 280 is a challenging stage adventure in the Montana Rockies.
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Mar 18, 2024 • 1h 5min

The Oregon 200 w/ RDs Renee & Todd of Go Beyond Racing

Use code Distance2Empty to register for Oregon 200 and get $100 off before the end of March 2024: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=108545 Todd and Renee, the race directors of Go Beyond Racing, discuss the inception and unique experience of the Oregon 200 race. They share their background in trail running and race directing, as well as the transition from timing races to organizing their own events. The conversation covers the process of creating the Oregon 200 course, the highlights of the race, and the challenges of dealing with fires and course changes. Todd and Renee also discuss their vision for the future of the race and offer advice for first-time Oregon 200 runners. In this conversation, Todd and Renee from Go Beyond Racing discuss various topics related to race directing and their experiences in the ultra running community. They share insights on the best gear for a 200 mile crew member, their highest highs and lowest lows in races, their ideal race location, and the ongoing journey of finding their distance to empty as race directors.Takeaways The Oregon 200 race offers a unique and intimate experience for runners, with a focus on creating a supportive and welcoming environment. The course highlights include running through beautiful forests, along rivers, and past stunning waterfalls. The race directors prioritize making the race crew accessible and providing a positive experience for volunteers. Hiking skills are essential for success in a 200-mile race, and runners should be adaptable and kind to themselves throughout the race. Volunteering at a race before participating can provide valuable insights and help runners understand the challenges and needs of the event. Having the right gear, such as a fold-up chair, blankets, headlamps, and a way to charge devices, is essential for crew members supporting a 200 mile race. The highest highs in races often come from unexpected moments and the opportunity to share experiences with others. The challenges and uncertainties of the COVID-19 pandemic had a significant impact on race directing, but the resilience and adaptability of race directors allowed them to navigate through difficult times. The ideal race location for Todd and Renee would be a long, scenic trail with beautiful surroundings and a festive atmosphere at the finish line.
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Mar 11, 2024 • 1h 13min

Triple Crown of 200s w/ Jameson Collins

In this conversation, Jameson Collins shares his journey from running a 50K to completing the Triple Crown of 200-mile races. He discusses his transition from hating running to finding a passion for trail running and ultras. Jameson recounts his experiences at each race, including the challenges and highlights. He also shares his training and recovery strategies between races and the mindset shift that occurred throughout the Triple Crown. In this episode, Jameson shares his favorite races, including Tahoe 200, Bigfoot 200, and Moab 240. He discusses his future goals in the sport, which include winning 200-milers and running an FKT on the Oregon Coast Trail. Jameson also talks about his company, Houda Trail, and its vision to provide custom gear for ultra runners. The episode concludes with the Quick Five Questions segment, where Jameson shares his highest high and lowest low during the Triple Crown, his favorite food from Destination Trail aid stations, his favorite piece of gear, and his ongoing search for his distance to empty. Takeaways Transitioning from shorter races to longer ultras requires a gradual build-up in training and experience. The Triple Crown of 200-mile races is a challenging and transformative experience that pushes runners to their limits. Recovery and rest are crucial between races to allow the body to heal and prepare for the next event. Having a supportive community and a strong mindset are key factors in successfully completing the Triple Crown.
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Mar 4, 2024 • 1h 2min

Cocodona Convos w/ Guest Host Joe Corcione

Summary In this episode Peter and Kevin are joined by guest host Joe Corcione of the Everyday Ultra Podcast! Peter and Kevin share their experiences and insights on running Cocodona 250. They discuss common misconceptions about the race, the unique features of Cocodona, training strategies, key sections to train for, mistakes to avoid, and tips for efficient aid station strategies and sleep management. They also provide advice on surviving the challenging Crown King section and highlight the importance of being adaptable and prepared with the right gear. Overall, their insights offer valuable guidance for anyone preparing to run Cocodona 250.
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Feb 26, 2024 • 1h 4min

Ashley Paulson - First 200 at Cocodona 250

In this episode, Ashley Paulson, an experienced endurance athlete, shares her journey from triathlon to ultra running and her upcoming race, Cocodona 250. She discusses her background in fitness and endurance sports, including her transition from Ironman to ultra running. Ashley also talks about her experiences at Badwater and her goals for Cocodona 250. She shares her training methods, including using the treadmill, and discusses her anxieties and excitements for the race. Ashley also talks about her crew and race strategy, as well as her approach to nutrition and hydration. Finally, she shares her thoughts on the mental game and her competitive goals for the race. In this conversation, Ashley Paulson discusses her recovery from foot surgery and her quick return to running. She shares her gratitude for the successful healing process and the benefits of various therapies. The conversation then shifts to the upcoming Cocodona race, where Ashley and the hosts discuss the possibility of exploring the course before race day. The conversation concludes with a series of quick five questions, covering topics such as high and low moments in races, favorite race food, and essential gear. Takeaways The journey to finding your distance to empty is ongoing, as there is always more to discover and achieve.
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Feb 19, 2024 • 1h 5min

Brian Gallant - Race Director of Divide 200

Brian Gallant, the race director of Sinister Sports, discusses the background and organization of the Divide 200, Canada's first and only 200-mile race. He explains the motivation behind organizing the race and the process of bringing it to life. Brian also highlights the unique features of the course and the importance of runner safety and emergency response. He shares his vision for the future of the Divide 200 and the possibility of new races in different regions of Canada. Brian Gallant discusses the Divide 200 race and offers advice for aspiring participants. He emphasizes the importance of mental preparation and shares his highest high and lowest low in a race. He also talks about his favorite food and gear for a 200-mile race and reflects on finding his distance to empty. Takeaways Sinister Sports organizes the Divide 200, Canada's first and only 200-mile race. The race is held in the Southern Alberta Rockies and showcases the stunning landscape of the region. Runner safety is a top priority, and the race has a comprehensive emergency response plan in place. The future of the Divide 200 includes maintaining a small field of participants and potentially expanding to other regions of Canada. Encourage participation and competition to make races more vibrant. Focus on the mental aspect of endurance races and learn to tolerate suffering. The highest high in a race can come from realizing your potential and being part of a community. The lowest low in a race is witnessing others' suffering and dropping out. Favorite food in a 200-mile race: hash browns and burgers. Recommended gear for a 200-mile race: filtering flask or filtering straw. Finding your distance to empty is an ongoing journey. To learn more about the Divide 200 race, visit divide200.ca.
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Feb 12, 2024 • 1h 13min

Alyssa Clark - The Word's Toughest Races

In this gripping episode of Distance to Empty, hosts Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes are joined by Alyssa Clark, an accomplished ultra-runner and coach for UpHill Athlete. Alyssa delves into her journey from being inspired by Ultramarathon Man to a seasoned competitor who's faced the brutal challenges of the world's toughest ultras, including the Moab 240, which she won in 2022. Alyssa shares the highs and lows of her racing career, from the joy throughout her entire Hurt 100 race in 2023 to the despair on the mountainside during the Tour de Geants. With honesty and vulnerability, she discusses the mental and physical battles endured in races like Dragon's Back and Tour de Geants, emphasizing the transformative power of pushing past perceived limits. The conversation shifts to Alyssa's coaching philosophy with Uphill Athlete, where she underscores the importance of tailored training, strength conditioning, and the unique challenges of preparing for 200-mile events. Alyssa's approach to coaching and racing highlights the nuanced balance between rigorous preparation and the mental resilience required to tackle such demanding distances. Listeners will find inspiration in Alyssa's relentless pursuit of her limits and her commitment to evolving both as an athlete and coach. This episode is not just about the distances covered but about the journey of self-discovery, perseverance, and the unyielding quest to find one's distance to empty.

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