

The ECB Podcast
European Central Bank
The European Central Bank Podcast – bringing you insights into the world of economics and central banking.
Our hosts Paul Gordon and Stefania Secola talk to experts about the topics and trends that matter to the eurozone economy today.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Our hosts Paul Gordon and Stefania Secola talk to experts about the topics and trends that matter to the eurozone economy today.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Episodes
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May 14, 2022 • 33min
Central bank communication: reggae (!), transparency and trust
How has central bank communication evolved over the years? Why is it important for us to be transparent? How can increased transparency increase trust?
Communications experts Gabriel Glöckler and Siria Angino sit down with our host Katie Ranger to discuss these questions, and also share related music and movie recommendations in this episode of The ECB Podcast.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 14 May 2022 and recorded on 11 May 2022.
In this episode:
00:26 – How central bank communication has evolved over the years
The shift from secrecy to transparency, and why we looked at communication in our recent monetary policy strategy review.
08:44 – Why central banks need to communicate in the first place
How good communication can make central bank policies more effective, and why transparency is an essential part of being accountable and building trust.
18:00 – Is more communication always better?
Will this path towards more transparency lead to full openness for central banks?
19:30 – Trust in central banks as institutions
The notion of institutional trust, the ingredients needed to build it, and the level of trust Europeans have in the ECB.
23:44 – Different types of trust
The differences between reflective and instinctive trust and how each applies to the ECB.
29:35 – Our guests’ hot tips
Our guests Gabriel Glöckler and Siria Angino share their related song and movie recommendations.
Additional material:
ECB official social media channels
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/services/socialmedia/html/index.en.html
Bank of Jamaica, reggae song about inflation
ECB official social media channels
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/services/socialmedia/html/index.en.html
Occasional paper: Clear, consistent and engaging: ECB monetary policy communication in a changing world, December 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/scpops/ecb.op274~9aca14e6f6.en.pdf?63436ac843159bdf4afcf0115e7f146f
Working paper: Central bank communication with non-experts: a road to nowhere? October 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/scpwps/ecb.wp2594~9fc2f0035d.en.pdf
Economic bulletin: ECB communication to the wider public, 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/economic-bulletin/articles/2022/html/ecb.ebart202108_02~5c1e5a116d.en.html
Monetary policy communication and the strategy review
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/search/review/html/monpol-communication.en.html
Working paper: Instinctive versus reflective trust in the European Central Bank, May 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/scpwps/ecb.wp2660~e228b93d53.en.pdf?8a6fb1b47fc36f668234d96a3fab5292
European Central Bank website
www.ecb.europa.eu
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

Apr 14, 2022 • 13min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 14 April 2022
Today our Governing Council decided on monetary policy, determining what’s needed to achieve stable prices in the euro area.
Listen to President Christine Lagarde present today’s decisions. The statement also covers:
- how the economy is performing
- how we expect prices to develop
- the risks to the economic outlook
- the dynamics behind financial and monetary conditions
Published and recorded during our press conference on 14 April 2022.
Additional material:
Our monetary policy statement at a glance, 14 April 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/visual-mps/2022/html/mopo_statement_explained_april.en.html
Christine Lagarde, Luis de Guindos: Monetary policy statement (with Q&A), 14 April 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/2022/html/ecb.is220414~fa5c8fe142.en.html
Monetary policy decisions, 14 April 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2022/html/ecb.mp220414~d1b76520c6.en.html
Combined monetary policy decisions and statement, 14 April 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/shared/pdf/ecb.ds220414~2d6ffb3a83.en.pdf
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

Mar 26, 2022 • 28min
How Russia’s war in Ukraine is affecting the euro area economy
The Russian invasion of Ukraine is first and foremost a human tragedy, but it is also having an economic impact. What effect is the conflict having on the euro area? And how might the economic situation develop?
Our host Katie Ranger discussed these questions with economist João Sousa in this episode of The ECB Podcast.
The views expressed are those of the speaker and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Recorded on 22 March 2022 and published on 26 March 2022.
In this episode:
1:30 – The euro area economy before the war
The state of the euro area before the outbreak of the war in Ukraine, and how it was recovering from the pandemic.
04:32 – The war’s impact on trade
How bans on Russian imports and exports affect trade, and the potential impact of supply chain disruptions caused by the conflict.
08:50 – The war’s impact on commodities
Why the war is affecting the prices of commodities such as oil, gas and food.
10:14 – The war’s impact on global confidence
How the fear and uncertainty brought about by the war in Ukraine are dampening confidence and affecting our economy.
12:51 – The war and inflation
What is behind the current rise in inflation, including the role of energy and food prices.
18:33 – Our projections for the euro area economy
How we see our economy faring in the future and what the different scenarios we looked at are.
25:34 – Our guest’s tip for further reading on the topic
Additional material:
Macroeconomic projections, March 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/projections/html/index.en.html
ECB staff macroeconomic projections for the euro area – full report, March 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/projections/html/ecb.projections202203_ecbstaff~44f998dfd7.en.html
ECB Monetary policy statement, 10 March 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/2022/html/ecb.is220310~1bc8c1b1ca.en.html
Speech delivered by Ben S. Bernanke at the 32nd Annual Economic Policy Conference, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, 19 October 2007
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/bernanke20071019a.htm
European Central Bank website
www.ecb.europa.eu
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

Mar 10, 2022 • 18min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 10 March 2022
The Russian invasion of Ukraine is a watershed for Europe. Today our Governing Council expressed its full support to the people of Ukraine.
It also decided on monetary policy, determining what’s needed to achieve stable prices in the euro area.
Listen to President Christine Lagarde present today’s decisions. The statement also covers:
- how the economy is performing
- how we expect prices to develop
- the risks to the economic outlook
- the dynamics behind financial and monetary conditions
Published and recorded during our press conference on 10 March 2022.
Additional material:
Our monetary policy statement at a glance, 10 March 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/visual-mps/2022/html/mopo_statement_explained_march.en.html
Christine Lagarde, Luis de Guindos: Monetary policy statement (with Q&A), 10 March 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/2022/html/ecb.is220310~1bc8c1b1ca.en.html
Monetary policy decisions, 10 March 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2022/html/ecb.mp220310~2d19f8ba60.en.html
Combined monetary policy decisions and statement, 10 March 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/shared/pdf/ecb.ds220310~c4c5a52570.en.pdf
Macroeconomic projections, March 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/projections/html/index.en.html
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

Mar 5, 2022 • 41min
Breaking bias to build a more gender-equal world
How can we break biases in different aspects of our lives? What do we need to create a more equal world for all?
Our President Christine Lagarde and LSE Director Minouche Shafik share their experiences and discuss the impact gender bias has on education, home life, the workplace and leadership in this episode of The ECB Podcast.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Recorded on 23 February 2022 and published on 5 March 2022.
In this episode:
2:12 - #BreakTheBias in education
Why there is still a lack of gender equality in economics, and what needs to be done to foster women’s access to certain professions.
13:53 - #BreakTheBias at home
How the pandemic has affected women at home, the threat it poses to gender equality in the future, and what we can do to ensure a more inclusive society.
25:36 - #BreakTheBias in the workplace
What the pros and cons are when it comes to flexible working arrangements for women, and why gender parity at work is important.
36:04 - #BreakTheBias in leadership
President Lagarde and LSE Director Minouche Shafik share their advice for aspiring female leaders on dealing with obstacles and overcoming hurdles.
Additional material:
Women in Economics Scholarship
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/careers/what-we-offer/wecs/html/index.en.html
World Economic Forum: Women are “hardworking”, men are “brilliant”: Economics job market, 14 February 2022
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/02/women-gender-men-bias-stereotyping-economics-job-market
Working paper: Does gender diversity in the workplace mitigate climate change? 28 February 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/scpwps/ecb.wp2650~3b693e6009.en.pdf?fcb9592f3295d9172f178e0340842970
The ECB Podcast: A conversation about female empowerment, the need for an inclusive recovery and transatlantic cooperation, 15 July 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod210715_episode18.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Fighting biases and empowering women: A conversation on female leadership and gender equality, 8 March 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod210308_episode15.en.html
European Central Bank website
www.ecb.europa.eu
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

Feb 12, 2022 • 25min
How healthy are Europe’s banks two years into the pandemic?
Each year we look at the risks banks face and how well-equipped they are to deal with them. What are our latest findings? And what are supervisors most concerned about?
In this episode of The ECB Podcast, our host Katie Ranger explores these questions with Supervisory Board Chair Andrea Enria and Vice-Chair Frank Elderson.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 12 February 2022 and recorded on 10 February 2022.
In this episode:
00:58 - What are the results of our latest assessment of banks?
How Europe’s banks are faring two years into the pandemic and whether the crisis phase is over for them.
07:18 – How are banks doing on credit risk?
How prepared banks are to manage credit risk and the issues our supervisors ask them to fix.
11:21 – The big risk on the horizon: the climate crisis
How 2022 will be a big year for our work supervising climate risks and the extent to which banks are taking them into account.
15:30– Are banks’ business models sustainable?
How the digital transformation can make banks’ business models more sustainable.
18:34 – Improving banks’ internal governance
Internal governance is a weak spot for banks and the role diversity can play in ensuring sound decision-making.
23:06 – Our guest's “hot tip” for our listeners
A book recommendation related to the challenges banks are currently facing.
Additional material:
Press release: ECB requires banks to hold marginally more capital in 2022, 10 February 2022
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2022/html/ssm.pr220210~6455538b07.en.html
Press release: ECB will not extend capital and leverage relief for banks, 10 February 2022
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2022/html/ssm.pr220210_1~ea3dd0cd51.en.html
Aggregated results of SREP 2021, 10 February 2022
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/banking/srep/2022/html/ssm.srepaggregateresults2022.en.html
Speech by Andrea Enria, Chair of the Supervisory Board of the ECB, at the press conference on the results of the 2021 SREP cycle, 10 February 2022
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/speeches/date/2022/html/ssm.sp220210~b95041902b.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Making sure banks are run by the right people
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod211210_episode24.en.html
The ECB Podcast: What lies on the horizon for Europe’s bank? https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod211116_episode23.en.html
Banking Supervision website
www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu
European Central Bank website
www.ecb.europa.eu

Feb 5, 2022 • 30min
All you need to know about euro banknotes
Make sure you have a euro banknote to hand as our host Katie Ranger and Martin Münd, counterfeit expert and banknote enthusiast, explore everything you need to know about euro banknotes.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 5 February 2022 and recorded on 19 January 2022.
In this episode:
01:26 – What exactly does a counterfeit expert do?
How our guest Martin Münd turned his passion for banknotes into a job and what his role as an ECB counterfeit expert involves.
5:18 – 20 years of euro banknotes
Euro banknotes were introduced on 1 January 2002 in what was the world’s largest ever cash changeover. What are our guest’s memories of that day?
08:43 – Banknote design
What the design elements of euro banknotes are, why they matter and how visually impaired people can distinguish between different banknote denominations.
13:39 – How to spot a fake banknote
What the security features of euro banknotes are, how you can check if a banknote is real or fake using the “feel-look-tilt” method, and what tomatoes and banknotes have in common.
25:33 – What’s next for euro banknotes?
How we are planning to further develop euro banknotes and why we will be redesigning them over the next few years.
28:27 – Our guest’s “hot tip” for our listeners
Our guest Martin Münd gives a tip for adding a banknote element to your summer holidays!
Additional material:
20 years of euro banknotes and coins
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/20_years_of_euro/html/index.en.html
Press release: Euro banknote counterfeiting at historically low level in 2021, January 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2022/html/ecb.pr220128~d65c3326c2.en.html
Catch me (if you can): assessing the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission via euro cash, July 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/scpops/ecb.op259~33b180d450.en.pdf
Europa series banknotes: security features
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/security/html/index.en.html#feel
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

Feb 3, 2022 • 12min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 3 February 2022
Today our Governing Council decided on monetary policy, determining what’s needed to achieve stable prices in the euro area.
Listen to President Christine Lagarde present today’s decisions. The statement also covers:
- how the economy is performing
- how we expect prices to develop
- the risks to the economic outlook
- the dynamics behind financial and monetary conditions
Published and recorded during our press conference on 3 February 2022.
Additional material:
Our monetary policy statement at a glance, 3 February 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/visual-mps/2022/html/mopo_statement_explained_february.en.html
Christine Lagarde, Luis de Guindos: Monetary policy statement (with Q&A), 3 February 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/2022/html/ecb.is220203~ca7001dec0.en.html
Monetary policy decisions, 3 February 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2022/html/ecb.mp220203~90fbe94662.en.html
Combined monetary policy decisions and statement, 3 February 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/shared/pdf/ecb.ds220203.en.pdf
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

Dec 16, 2021 • 20min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 16 December 2021
Today our Governing Council decided on monetary policy, determining what should be done to achieve stable prices in the euro area.
Listen to President Christine Lagarde present today’s decisions. The statement also covers:
- how the economy is performing
- how we expect prices to develop
- the risks to the economic outlook
- the dynamics behind financial and monetary conditions
Published and recorded during our press conference on 16 December 2021.
Additional material:
Our monetary policy statement at a glance, 16 December 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/visual-mps/2021/html/mopo_statement_explained_december.en.html
Christine Lagarde, Luis de Guindos: Monetary policy statement (with Q&A), 16 December 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/2021/html/ecb.is211216~9abaace28e.en.html
Monetary policy decisions, 16 December 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2021/html/ecb.mp211216~1b6d3a1fd8.en.html
Combined monetary policy decisions and statement, 16 December 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/shared/pdf/ecb.ds211216.en.pdf
Macroeconomic projections, December 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/projections/html/ecb.projections202112_eurosystemstaff~32e481d712.en.html
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html

Dec 10, 2021 • 28min
Making sure banks are run by the right people
What defines good leadership? Which skills do those who run banks need and how can we, as the supervisor, help choose the right people for the job?
In this episode of The ECB Podcast, our host Katie Ranger and Frank Elderson, Vice-Chair of the Supervisory Board, discuss leadership and our role in selecting banks’ leaders.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 10 December 2021 and recorded on 8 December 2021.
In this episode:
01:25 – Leadership in banks and beyond
Which qualities define good leadership and why it is crucial that the right people are selected to run banks.
07:12 – The challenges facing banks and what they mean for their decision-makers
The skills and attributes needed by banks’ board members to address major challenges, such as climate change and digitalisation.
12:24 – Diversity on banks’ boards
How diversity can improve banks’ decision-making processes and resilience, and what can be done to foster greater diversity on their boards.
14:34 – Our role in ensuring banks are run by the right people
What we do, as the supervisor, to assess the suitability of banks’ board members, what fit and proper supervision is, and why we have revised our fit and proper guide.
20:43 – Making sure all board members play their part
How a bank’s board is like a rowing team and why its members must be accountable, both individually and collectively, for what happens within the bank.
24:31 – Our guest’s “hot tip” for our listeners
Our guest Frank Elderson shares his tips on how each of us can foster a more diverse and inclusive environment.
Additional material:
Guide to fit and proper assessments, December 2021
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/ecb/pub/pdf/ssm.fit_and_proper_guide_update202112~d66f230eca.en.pdf
Banking supervision blog post by Frank Elderson and Elizabeth McCaul, ECB Banking Supervision seeking greater diversity within banks, 15 June 2021 https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/blog/2021/html/ssm.blog210615~31020cb68d.en.html
Explainer: What is fit and proper supervision?
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/about/ssmexplained/html/fap.en.html
Supervision Newsletter, Bolstering fit and proper supervision, 18 November 2020
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/publications/newsletter/2020/html/ssm.nl201118_3.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Fighting biases and empowering women: A conversation on female leadership and gender equality, 8 March 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod210308_episode15.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Tackling climate change as a central bank: Between motivation, obligation and limitation, 12 May 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod210512_episode16.en.html
The ECB Podcast: A conversation about female empowerment, the need for an inclusive recovery and transatlantic cooperation, 15 July 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod210715_episode18.en.html
ECB Banking Supervision
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast