

The ECB Podcast
European Central Bank
The European Central Bank Podcast – bringing you insights into the world of economics and central banking.
Our hosts Paul Gordon and Stefania Secola talk to experts about the topics and trends that matter to the eurozone economy today.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Our hosts Paul Gordon and Stefania Secola talk to experts about the topics and trends that matter to the eurozone economy today.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Jun 27, 2023 • 8min
A global view on economic developments with Gita Gopinath
How stable is the global economic recovery? And is geoeconomic fragmentation a threat?
Gita Gopinath, the IMF’s First Deputy Managing Director, joins our host Katie Ranger on the ECB Podcast to discuss these and other questions while at the ECB Forum on Central Banking in Sintra, Portugal.
Published on 27 June 2023 and recorded on 27 June 2023.
Further reading:
Three Uncomfortable Truths For Monetary Policy - Remarks by Gita Gopinath at the ECB Forum on Central Banking, 26 June 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/conferences/ecbforum/shared/pdf/2023/Gopinath_speech.pdf
Three Uncomfortable Truths For Monetary Policy - Presentation by Gita Gopinath at the ECB Forum on Central Banking, 26 June 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/conferences/ecbforum/shared/pdf/2023/Gopinath_presentation.pdf
IMF’s world economic outlook 2023
https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2023/04/11/world-economic-outlook-april-2023
IMF’s report on geoeconomic fragmentation and the future of multilateralism
https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/Staff-Discussion-Notes/Issues/2023/01/11/Geo-Economic-Fragmentation-and-the-Future-of-Multilateralism-527266
ECB Forum on Central Banking 2023 – programme
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/conferences/html/20230626_ecb_forum_on_central_banking.en.html
Link to Gita Gopinath's opening speech, 26th of June:
https://youtube.com/live/wbIbpItoOT4?feature=share
European Central Bank
www.ecb.europa.eu

Jun 23, 2023 • 26min
Are wages and greedflation really pushing up prices?
What is the risk of a wage-price spiral? How long will we go on raising interest rates? And are companies’ high profits fuelling inflation?
Our host Katie Ranger discusses these questions with our Chief Economist Philip R. Lane on The ECB Podcast.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 23 June 2023 and recorded on 20 June 2023.
In this episode:
1:20 – The ECB’s latest monetary policy decisions
Why are we raising interest rates again and when will we reach the right rate to bring inflation down to our 2% target?
6:56 – Underlying versus headline inflation: what’s the difference?
What do we understand by core, headline and underlying inflation, what role do energy prices play, and which way is inflation going?
15:02 – The risk of a wage-price spiral
What is the risk of a wage-price spiral, why can it be dangerous and how can we avoid it?
19:44 – The ‘’greedflation’’ phenomenon
Are companies’ widening profit margins driving up inflation – and if so, how will this situation rebalance?
23:47 – Our guest’s hot tip
Our guest, Philip R. Lane, recommends that our listeners take a look at the 2023 Young Economist Prize finalists’ papers – and tune in to the ECB Forum on Central Banking to hear the winner being announced.
Further reading:
The ECB Forum on Central Banking 2023 – Programme
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/conferences/html/20230626_ecb_forum_on_central_banking.en.html
Meet the finalists of the 2023 Young Economist Prize
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/conferences/ecbforum/YE_competition/html/index.en.html
Our monetary policy statement at a glance – June 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/visual-mps/2023/html/mopo_statement_explained_june.en.html
European Central Bank
www.ecb.europa.eu

Jun 15, 2023 • 16min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 15 June 2023
Today our Governing Council decided on monetary policy, determining what’s needed to achieve stable prices in the euro area.
Listen to President Christine Lagarde present today’s decisions. The statement also covers:
- how the economy is performing
- how we expect prices to develop
- the risks to the economic outlook
- the dynamics behind financial and monetary conditions
Published and recorded during our press conference on 15 June 2023.
Additional material:
Our monetary policy statement at a glance, 15 June 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/visual-mps/2023/html/mopo_statement_explained_june.en.html
Christine Lagarde, Luis de Guindos: Monetary policy statement (with Q&A), 15 June 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/2023/html/ecb.is230615~3de9d68335.en.html
Monetary policy decisions, 15 June 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2023/html/ecb.mp230615~d34cddb4c6.en.html
Combined monetary policy decisions and statement, 15 June 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/shared/pdf/ecb.ds230615~19be62590b.en.pdf
Macroeconomic projections, 15 June 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/projections/html/index.en.html
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

7 snips
Jun 7, 2023 • 23min
Financial stability and bank runs
How stable is our financial system? And what risks do we see for banks and property markets?
Our host Katie Ranger delves into this topic with financial stability expert John Fell on The ECB Podcast.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 7 June 2023 and recorded on 2 June 2023.
In this episode:
01:45 – Looking back at the last six months
What is a positive thing that has happened during the last six months in the financial sector, and what events are worrying?
04:58 – How the bank failures and takeovers in the United States and Switzerland have affected euro area banks
Why were some of these events a surprise, and how much impact have they had on euro area banks?
10:20 – Lessons learnt from the banking turmoil
What issues has the turmoil raised, what lessons can be learnt from these events, and why did the speed and scale of bank runs stand out?
14:13 – Real estate markets
Which way are housing markets going after the long boom cycle?
19:52 – Our guest’s hot tip
Our guest, John Fell, shares two film recommendations with our listeners.
Additional material:
Financial Stability Review, May 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/financial-stability/fsr/html/index.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Hacktivists, ransoms and cyberwar – threats for the financial system? December 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod221206_episode46.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Is financial stability at risk in these stormy times? November 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod221124_episode45.en.html
European Central Bank
www.ecb.europa.eu
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

May 24, 2023 • 12min
Christine Lagarde on 25 years of the ECB
As part of the celebrations for the ECB’s 25th anniversary, ECB President Christine Lagarde looks back at a quarter of a century of commitment to price stability and working for a better Europe, and explores what might lie ahead.
Published on 24 May 2023.
Speech of President Lagarde
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/key/date/2023/html/ecb.sp230524~4e026cefbc.en.html
25 years of euro united – The ECB Blog by President Christine Lagarde
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/blog/date/2023/html/ecb.blog.230524~ed0f2638c1.en.html
Explainer: What the European Central Bank does and what it means for you
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/explainers/tell-me-more/html/anniversary.en.html
Explainer: Five things you need to know about the ECB
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/explainers/tell-me-more/html/five_things.en.html
Everyone needs stability – Introducing the ECB
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/everyone-needs-stability/html/index.en.html
European Central Bank
www.ecb.europa.eu
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

May 13, 2023 • 25min
Being transparent about climate risks
How transparent do organisations need to be about climate risks, and why does it matter? Where do banks and the ECB stand on sharing this information?
Our host Katie Ranger speaks with Executive Board member and Supervisory Board Vice-Chair Frank Elderson in this episode of The ECB Podcast.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 13 May 2023 and recorded on 8 May 2023.
In this episode:
01:27 – What are climate disclosures and why do they matter?
What information organisations should share about their climate-related risks, the forms these disclosures can take, and why they’re important for people, companies, investors and institutions.
05:52 – Greenwashing and making sure disclosures aren’t misleading
How we can make sure organisations are acting – and not just sounding – green, and how to know if the climate information can be trusted.
13:32 – How well are banks disclosing their climate risks?
What our latest report reveals about the progress banks have made in becoming more transparent when it comes to climate risks, and what we expect from them as their supervisor.
17:50 – The ECB’s own climate disclosures
What our first set of climate disclosures shows about the carbon footprint of corporate bonds we bought as part of our monetary policy and other investments.
22:38 – Our guest’s hot tip
Additional material:
Press release: Banks must continue improving climate risk disclosures as new EU rules take effect, ECB report shows
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2023/html/ssm.pr230421~213bf10fbe.en.html
Press release: ECB starts disclosing climate impact of portfolios on road to Paris-alignment
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2023/html/ecb.pr230323~05efc3cf49.en.html
Explainer: What are climate disclosures?
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/explainers/html/what-are-climate-disclosures.en.html
Speech by Frank Elderson: Policymakers as policy takers – accounting for climate-related and environmental factors in banking supervision and monetary policy
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/key/date/2023/html/ecb.sp230421~489cd977e0.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Greening the financial system: milestones in our climate change journey, 9 July 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod220709_episode36.en.html
Climate change and banking supervision
https://www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu/about/climate/html/index.en.html
Climate change and the ECB
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/climate/html/index.en.html
European Central Bank
www.ecb.europa.eu
European Banking Supervision
www.bankingsupervision.europa.eu

May 4, 2023 • 14min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 4 May 2023
Today our Governing Council decided on monetary policy, determining what’s needed to achieve stable prices in the euro area.
Listen to President Christine Lagarde present today’s decisions. The statement also covers:
- how the economy is performing
- how we expect prices to develop
- the risks to the economic outlook
- the dynamics behind financial and monetary conditions
Published and recorded during our press conference on 4 May 2023.
Our monetary policy statement at a glance, 4 May 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/visual-mps/2023/html/mopo_statement_explained_may.en.html
Christine Lagarde, Luis de Guindos: Monetary policy statement (with Q&A), 4 May 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/2023/html/ecb.is230504~f242392c72.en.html
Monetary policy decisions, 4 May 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2023/html/ecb.mp230504~cdfd11a697.en.html
Combined monetary policy decisions and statement, 4 May 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/shared/pdf/ecb.ds230504~3751d33d72.en.pdf
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

Mar 16, 2023 • 15min
President Lagarde presents the latest monetary policy decisions – 16 March 2023
Today our Governing Council decided on monetary policy, determining what’s needed to achieve stable prices in the euro area.
Listen to President Christine Lagarde present today’s decisions. The statement also covers:
- how the economy is performing
- how we expect prices to develop
- the risks to the economic outlook
- the dynamics behind financial and monetary conditions
Published and recorded during our press conference on 16 March 2023.
Additional material:
Our monetary policy statement at a glance, 16 March 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/visual-mps/2023/html/mopo_statement_explained_march.en.html
Christine Lagarde, Luis de Guindos: Monetary policy statement (with Q&A), 16 March 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/2023/html/ecb.is230316~6c10b087b5.en.html
Monetary policy decisions, 16 March 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2023/html/ecb.mp230316~aad5249f30.en.html
Combined monetary policy decisions and statement, 16 March 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pressconf/shared/pdf/ecb.ds230316~34822c9f1d.en.pdf
Macroeconomic projections, 16 March 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/projections/html/index.en.html
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

Mar 8, 2023 • 47min
Christine Lagarde and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala on women in the economy and female leadership
To mark International Women’s Day, President Christine Lagarde and WTO Director-General Dr Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala discuss women in the economy and share their experiences as female leaders.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Recorded and published on 8 March 2023.
Additional material:
ECB Scholarship for Women
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/careers/what-we-offer/wecs/html/index.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Breaking bias to build a more gender-equal world, 5 March 2022
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod220305_episode29.en.html
The ECB Podcast: A conversation about female empowerment, the need for an inclusive recovery and transatlantic cooperation, 15 July 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod210715_episode18.en.html
The ECB Podcast: Fighting biases and empowering women: A conversation on female leadership and gender equality, 8 March 2021
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/tvservices/podcast/html/ecb.pod210308_episode15.en.html
European Central Bank website
www.ecb.europa.eu
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast

5 snips
Feb 23, 2023 • 14min
Central banks’ profits and losses: where do they come from?
Does a central bank make profits and losses? How do they come about? And what was our financial position at the end of 2022?
Our host Katie Ranger puts these questions to press officer William Lelieveldt on The ECB Podcast.
The views expressed are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the European Central Bank.
Published on 23 February 2023 and recorded on 13 February 2023.
In this episode:
01:14 – How does a central bank make a profit?
How a central bank earns money, where its profits come from and what it does with its income.
03:49 – How does a central bank make a loss?
What sort of thing is a cost for a central bank and how it spends its money.
04:55 – Our annual accounts in the current economic environment
How higher interest rates affect our profits and losses, how we choose which bonds to buy and whether we could have avoided making a loss.
08:55 – The impact of making a loss
How making a loss affects people in the euro area and what we expect our balance sheet to look like in a few years’ time.
11:48 – Our guest’s hot tip
Additional material:
Press release: Financial statements of the ECB for 2022, 23 February 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2023/html/ecb.pr230223~398b74f1dc.en.html
Publication: Annual Accounts 2022, 23 February 2023
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/annual/annual-accounts/html/ecb.annualaccounts2022~ee9329bf6f.en.html
Explainer: Profits and losses of the ECB and the euro area national central banks: where do they come from?
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/explainers/tell-me-more/html/ecb_profits.en.html
Explainer: Accountability
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/orga/accountability/html/index.en.html
European Central Bank
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/home/html/index.en.html
You can also listen to The ECB Podcast on SoundCloud, Spotify, Deezer, Stitcher, YouTube, Amazon Music and many more pod.link/ecbpodcast